The GPS thread - Redux

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superczar

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Considering that at least a few if not quite a few of us have been using GPS devices in Indian cities for a while now, I thought it may be a good idea to start a thread where we could post and get some feedback on the different maps available for the country

Here is a quick and dirty primer if you just joined the party...This however is by no means a guide and is meant for soliciting feedback on other hardware/map options available in India:

Digital Maps & Application

Three options available
  • Mapking - By far, the worst of the lot. The on-map accuracy is atrocious to say the least. Stay Away from this POS the way you would from a rat carrying the bubonic plague
  • SatGuide Maps: They have an all India map, street level City maps for major cities as well as a consolidated All India Map. The POI (Points of interest) listing leaves a lot to be desired and the routing calulations are rather weird so the bird's eye view with plain routing is best avoided on this.
However, the positional accuracy is fairly good and using a combination of your common sense and your position on the 2 dimensional map displayed, it does serve as a fairly usable solution (At least in Chennai and Bangalore - Can't say much about other cities)

The Satguide maps are in the destinator format , i.e. they use the Destinator API and even though the Destinator API is technically not free, there are several freeeware apps (with a bit of a quasi legal status) that can be used in conjunction with Satguide maps

  • Map My India Maps - No first hand experience. Perhaps others could provide some feedback. They do not use the Destinator API however.
Anyone with any feedback on mapmyIndia maps and the specific format they are in?

From the website, it seems they use the wayfinder API, but perhaps someone could help understand more.

Hardware (receiver & Processing device)

Multiple options available:
  • Buying a standalone personal navigation device from Satguide or mapmyIndia: Standalone navigation devices ranging between 13K to 20K available through the respective websites. No first hand experience with any of these in India.
  • Using a standalone personal device like the Mio C520 and hacking it to add your own maps: Will wait for Rave to give us some feedback on this
  • Using a combination of a Bluetooth/USB GPS device and a PC: I use a combination of a Bluetooth GPS device talking to a car PC mounted under the passenger seat and a 7" Touchscreen LCD mounted on the car dash.
I find the 7" TS a huge improvement over the 3.5/4.3 screens on a PND

Especially considering that a Bird's eye view (that requires less screen space) is far less suitable for the rather hit & miss routing on India maps

GPS navigation in India fares a lot better with a complete 2D view (like a regular map), but a complete 2D view requires more real estate on the screen

Happy with the hardware so far though this kind of a setup is not for the faint hearted (not to mention it will cost close to 2X a regular PND).

If you want a simple GPS solution, you are better off with a PND than this.

  • Using a combination of a Bluetooth/USB GPS device and a phone: Again, a fairly usable combination, especially if you have a touchscreen phone. No first hand experience on this though except a trial run on a HP ipaq 6315.

The very basics

Edited and added this later to avoid any inane comments coming in

From Wikipedia:

The Global Positioning System (GPS) is the only fully functional Global Navigation Satellite System (GNSS). Utilizing a constellation of at least 24 Medium Earth Orbit satellites that transmit precise microwave signals, the system enables a GPS receiver to determine its location, speed, direction, and time.

And please, GPS has nothing to do with GPRS (not all similar sounding acronyms need to be related), and you do not have to pay to use locational GPS service - period -

You may need to pay for the hardware, application and maps though (unless you decide to act cheap and pilfer the hardware/ *ahem* the software

To put GPS to a practical navigation use, you need a combination of the following three things:
  • A GPS receiver i.e. a device that can calculates its position by receiving and interpolating data from multiple GPS satellites.
  • An application that can interpret the position provided by the receiver and overlay the position on a digital map (And also handle other User Interface aspects)
  • A Digital map that the aforementioned application can use
  • A processing device with a screen to run the application, render the data and handle the data processing e.g. a PC, a smartphone, A PDA or a dedciated navigation device


 
well for the hardware wat abt hooking a EEEPC and trying with google maps....pblm wud be with net connx.......just a thought...dunno how it will work
 
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Using a combination of a Bluetooth/USB GPS device and a phone:

Guess it equates to the same...Just that the GPS receiver is inbuilt in the phone

I wonder if these phones also allow for the inbuilt GPS receiver's data to be received by another device
 
well... i use nokia maps... n m pretty satisfied with it... they even have the expressway coverage :O

using thru N82...
 
I have the mapmyindia version of Wayfinder on my P1i. It works to say the least... found bottle's home using it without too much trouble :rofl:. I hardly ever use a GPS though... the only real use is to measure my true speed on GQ :P. Found that my speedo has around 5km/hr error when doing very high speeds.
 
superczar said:
does Nokia maps cover street level information ?

Yeah everything...Hotels, parks everything...they give 3months free in APAC region..:hap2:
Just wish they ahd maps of nagpur..
Also, the gps on n82, allows u to use different apps on the phone, ie the gps position data can be used by other mapping apps too..So u can use the native s60 google maps application too..which again is rocking!!!:hap2:

You can preload maps in nokia maps, using nokia maps loader:hap2:
 
GPS Tuner - The best GPS software for a mobile device IMO. Agreed it isn't something you use to guide you through lanes and show close-by eating places.

For someone who's hiking or trekking or going places where you don't have ready made maps, it is quite amazing. It can use maps from online satellite maps/images sites like Google Maps or you can make your own calibrated maps out of say Google Earth or even scanned maps. It'll track your trip and you can even have it update your location online so others know where you are. These are just some of the features. A definite must-have for any Windows Mobile user with a GPS receiver/phone.

...and it looks awesome. Some screenshots HERE.
 
i dunno whether this is the right place to post this question, but here it is..

I have to buy a Basic cell for my Dad, Budget:5k + i need to buy a GPS device for myself.

I have a N6600 myself which i can dump on my dad (he he!) & use that 5k to spend on the GPS device. My total budget: 15-20k

My question: which is the best device to go for:

1) PND
2) Buy a BT GPS reciever (costs 5k) & pair with my N6600?
3) GPS enabled WM Phone/PDA
4) Symbian GPS Phone like:6110

If buying a PDA/Smartphone- wi-fi is desirable..

Plz help , im sooooooooo confused!!
 
I have the Garmin software installed in my N82, the problem is I am not able to find any maps for India by Garmin.. Can anyone help?
 
I have the mapmyindia version of Wayfinder on my P1i. It works to say the least... found bottle's home using it without too much trouble

Hmm, must try it out next time you are here

The satguide maps work fine most of the time but put it on narrow congested areas with multiple narrow parallel lanes and it gets totally confused

while on that topic, Is there any PC API available for wayfinder?
 
superczar said:
Hmm, must try it out next time you are here

The satguide maps work fine most of the time but put it on narrow congested areas with multiple narrow parallel lanes and it gets totally confused

while on that topic, Is there any PC API available for wayfinder?

although i agree with this, partially.

the only issue ive had with it is the width of the lanes are not to scale, or even partially to scale, a lane which is narrow shud come up as a narrow lane in the map as well but this doesnt happen, the bylane and sublane width is the same most of the time, and i got confused if am taking the corrent turn

got lost once coz i thought i knew better than satnav lady :lol: wasnt the case hehe, even after getting lost, i could easily find my way out, which is why i love this more, the satnav lady never gets pissed off and says i told u so, should have taken the turn, instead she just tells u the next possible route, if only girls were like this in real :rofl:

btw, the satguide's one india map doesnt have any POIs, Scz, for city specific maps u get POIs and street number/house number information?
 
btw, the satguide's one india map doesnt have any POIs, Scz, for city specific maps u get POIs and street number/house number information?

yes..weird..innit?

I really want to try out the mapmyindia map but te wayfinder api is not available for the PC it seems (only for windows mobile)
 
superczar said:
yes..weird..innit?

I really want to try out the mapmyindia map but te wayfinder api is not available for the PC it seems (only for windows mobile)

i can try it and let u know, just gimme a the links lol
 
Hi,

I work for MapmyIndia and hope this information will unswer your questions.

MapmyIndia has been mapping India since 1994 and has created its most comprehensive digital map covering for all of India.

- We provide our maps to over 500 leading enterprise customers, and over a million consumers have used and experienced our maps on the internet, mobile phone and in-car.

- Mapmyindia offers consumers’ products on the internet for free on MapmyIndia - maps, directions, and local search across India - just search, print and go!, and for in-car navigation on MapmyIndia Navigator - India's choice in GPS navigation, and finally for mobile phones on MapmyIndia iNav : GPS navigation for mobile phones! Nokia, Blackberry, HTC, ASUS GPS phone navigation software all India

- Besides this, MapmyIndia powers leading industry players such as Yahoo! Maps, Airtel GPS Navigation, and General Motors In-car Navigation.

- Please do visit our press corner or just searched around for reviews of our products to see what others are saying.

I hope this info has helped.

Best,

Silvia
 
the mapmyindia site offering you have posted is no good than google maps....NOM silvia but IMO it seems google maps is better

my comment is not about the in car navigation system you have mentioned
 
delhiboy1000 said:
i dunno whether this is the right place to post this question, but here it is..

I have to buy a Basic cell for my Dad, Budget:5k + i need to buy a GPS device for myself.

I have a N6600 myself which i can dump on my dad (he he!) & use that 5k to spend on the GPS device. My total budget: 15-20k

My question: which is the best device to go for:

1) PND
2) Buy a BT GPS reciever (costs 5k) & pair with my N6600?
3) GPS enabled WM Phone/PDA
4) Symbian GPS Phone like:6110

If buying a PDA/Smartphone- wi-fi is desirable..

Plz help , im sooooooooo confused!!

^^^ Guys, can anyone help me on this ??!!
 
^Czar, i saw the P527, looks pretty good actually. Kamal @ Delta had it hehe.

I still won't buy a Windows Mobile till it becomes as fast as the iPhone :P
 
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