The Next Level!!!... Home Theatre purchase help.

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Hi.

This is been in the making for sometime, its now or never. Before I get married ;) :mad:. I will only get this in next 4 or 6 months. No hurry. These items will be with me for as long as they can. *touchwood*.All items need to be purchased from India. Local warranty and support for any or all items are preferred.

Need to get a proper Home theater for me now. :)

Here are the items shortlisted as of now.

Projector - Optoma HD20 ~70k. I am not going for 3D. I hate anything 3D.
AV Receiver - Onkyo TX NR616 ~80K

Now need your help in a 5.1 setup. Yea I am getting a 7.2 Receiver, but no 7.2. No Money.
Even this is pushing for me. :(

My primary usage will be for movies ofc. But music is also very important to me. I hear almost all genres. Its the mood that is important for me.

My budget is 1L. If i can get a great system for less, wonderful. :)

I hear good things about Polk. What do u guys think?

Thanks.
 
Hello!

since music is also important, getting a set-up consisting of bookshelves/floorstanders should be an option worth considering. other options can be Pioneer's SP-PK21BS (bookshelves) / SP-PK52FS (Floorstanders); JBL's cinema 500, etc. these have found very good feedback from users, though perhaps they are not so much of an 'audiophile' grade, if i may say that.

your budget for the HTS alone is 1L, correct?! the above examples fall far below that amount, so you've ample good options to consider. :)

may we please know where are you located at?
 
I will be setting these up in my home Trivandrum, Kerala. I am in US now.

Yea just for the speakers.. 1L. lets say 50% movies and TV show..25% games 25 % music.[DOUBLEPOST=1367085495][/DOUBLEPOST]Onkyo for music sucks. ok. since music is not my no.1 priority, AV receiver stays. But i dont have that big of a standard for my ears. It just needs to be awesome. :)
 
Denon or Marantz suit the purpose. Since you are in the US, get the AVR from there. You get fantastic deals.

What is your situation, once you come back, would be moving out to another place sometime later?
 
Ok. Then I will start looking for Denon or Marantz ones. No man, I have a lot of stuff to bring from US. Dont want to attract too much customs via Blore Airport.

I want to bring the projector and the AVR if i could :(

Anyone knows what is the customs for these?

Very less response than i expected for the thread. it seems People are not well versed with HT here. :(

Well. I am setting this up on my home now. But soon I will be moving out on my own. So kinda in 2 boats. Wether to go with a temp 40"/42" now and then get a kick ass projector room later. Got to love living alone in a apartment. :D :D :D
 
Then buy max. bookshelves - no floorstanders. These would not fit everywhere and you may not have control over the layout of the next house.

If you can afford it, nothing like an exclusive projector room!

Do you want to spend 1L on the speakers or, will you be happy to get a good set for lesser amount?
 
I will have complete control over the layout :D. Need floor standers mate. :)

As of now I cannot free a room just for movies in my home. :D Its my parents house. Sooo.....

Anything if i can get for less, I will be happy. Even the projectors and A/V Rx. Pour in ur thoughts.
 
I'm not sure if I saw the room dimensions in your posts - that should be the starting point. Along with other factors such as whether you can have complete darkness in the room and whether it can be acoustically worked on. Also, whether it will be a dedicated room or a multipurpose room. Answer these and you will be closer to deciding on what you want.
 
Sorry.

Dimensions - 8 x 8 feet square. The future change will be 12 x 9 feet rectangle.
Complete Darkness - Already a window is present, but it got that blind-twsiting-curtain thingy as u see in offices. In future also it will be the same. Blinds in windows. Somehow i am not a fan of closing the window from inside.
Accoustically worked - Not possible.
It will always be a multipurpose room. I will be setting up my PC, HTPC, Consoles also in there. And LOTS of books.[DOUBLEPOST=1368026131][/DOUBLEPOST]I dont have any plans to get a THEATRE ROOM. I dont want that. I am more like a place/room of my own kinda person.

My movies..TV shows..music..gaming..reading...office work etc all will be done in that room only. :D. Sleeping in my recliner also if possible. :D
 
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Do you have some kind of plan for how you plan to fit yourself and so many other gadgets in there?

The average chair is 18 inches across and back, a recliner is about 24. The way I see it, the moment you dunk a regular office chair, a PC table and a recliner, you're already out of space. I doubt your viewing distance to the screen is more than 6 feet, that's not enough for a projector beam to even begin to develop and too small a distance for a 40" FHD screen. Maybe 32", but then a lot of content is going to look grainy and you'll notice motion blur on fast action scenes unless you're blind.

And you can forget floorstanders in either room. To develop a 30Hz wave you need 15 feet in the shortest dimension, and therefore smaller bookshelves are what would work without overloading the room. If you ever plan to fit a subwoofer in there, you will need to be very watchful of the settings because that room size will be a killer. The larger one is probably possible but even then requires care. Smaller one being square you can forget ever having faithful sound.

Also remember that all these gadgets will reduce your oxygen supply significantly. Do take care to have it properly ventilated, especially if you also have a split AC in there because there will be no fresh air inlet.

I do see that a man-cave appeals to most sensibilities, but one that small will be extremely tough to manage properly. The smallest room I've worked in (at home) has been about 9x12 and I've never managed to get even a moderately sized floorstander to work properly. And that only had a gaming setup, no music or movies (kept in the living room). Office cubicles tend to be a lot smaller - maybe 8x8 but don't have to accommodate so many different purposes.

I have a feeling you need to think about things other than buying stuff at this point. I'll be interested to know how and when you do get it going. Good Luck!
 
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Ok. I see what i did there. I think i have the wrong measurements. I am still in the drawing phase of my new place. Really no clue what i am saying. feet..square feet..meters.. :(

My current room is 4.5 x 3.5 Meters. The future one will be 5.5 x 3.5 Meters.

I said in feets. :S. HT in that size of a room. Cant believe u thought that was real and went on typing that. And now you dont need to feel any other things for me.
 
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Do you have some kind of plan for how you plan to fit yourself and so many other gadgets in there?

The average chair is 18 inches across and back, a recliner is about 24. The way I see it, the moment you dunk a regular office chair, a PC table and a recliner, you're already out of space. I doubt your viewing distance to the screen is more than 6 feet, that's not enough for a projector beam to even begin to develop and too small a distance for a 40" FHD screen. Maybe 32", but then a lot of content is going to look grainy and you'll notice motion blur on fast action scenes unless you're blind.

And you can forget floorstanders in either room. To develop a 30Hz wave you need 15 feet in the shortest dimension, and therefore smaller bookshelves are what would work without overloading the room. If you ever plan to fit a subwoofer in there, you will need to be very watch...
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Always to the point! :)

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Ok. I see what i did there. I think i have the wrong measurements. I am still in the drawing phase of my new place. Really no clue what i am saying. feet..square feet..meters.. :(

My current room is 4.5 x 3.5 Meters. The future one will be 5.5 x 3.5 Meters.

I said in feets. :S. HT in that size of a room. Cant believe u thought that was real and went on typing that. And now you dont need to feel any other things for me.
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I think you should visit AVSForum and see the magic people have performed in 8x8 and 12x9 sq feet attics/rooms. :)

Anyways, you have a 14.7 x 11.4 sq feet room right now and will move on to 18 x 11.4 sq feet.

These are decently sized but still not big enough to warrant floorstanders IMO. Maybe when you move later to 18 x 11 sq feet, but not now. Even then, a good pair of bookshelf speakers will hold their own. Like you said, it is not possible to perform any acoustic modifications in the room.


Also, the fact that it is going to be a a mixed purpose room, there will be other stuff in the room (a bed?), you should first and foremost draw up a rough plan of how you want to place the furniture - PC table, bookshelf etc. ; keeping in mind the wall with the window.

Also, with an 18 x 11 sq feet, you can definitely have a projector but you have to decide whether you will be projecting on the wall, buying a pull-down screen or having a fixed screen. A rule of thumb is that the distance from the screen should be 1.5 times the diagonal size of the screen for an optimal experience. You also got to take care of 16:9 vs 21:9 content which is going to change the size of the image dramatically, especially when you are projecting on a screen instead of a wall.

Before you finalize the equipment, first be clear about how you are going to arrange the stuff in the room since that is going to be more or less permanent when you have loads of stuff kept in the room. Like cranky said, with a smaller sized rooms, the placement of the equipment matters a lot.

Looking at my post, I don't want to demoralise you. :) You can have a very good multipurpose 18 x 11 sq feet room with all the components that you have mentioned. But instead of starting with the brands, first look at what you want in the room and where you are going to place it. Then, it will all make sense. Deciding on the brand is not that difficult if you have a fixed budget in mind.

PS: I had thought of converting my 14 x 9 room into a dedicated theater (it's small but people have done it successfully; refer AVSForums) but then realised that the amount of effort is not viable in the rented flat. So, I just bought a short-throw projector and use it time to time with my bookshelf speakers for now.
 
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No beds. 1 couch/recliner.

No demoralizing. Either way its going to happen, just opened the thread to get more thghts. things i never thght of.

1. Room Size.

I have to do with what i have. :). I would love to have a dedicated Home Theater, If i have like a 10 bed room mansion. Not in a 4 bed room house. Guests/Relatives will pop by and no way we can show them the couch. And When I move out on my own. It will most probably 2 or 3 BHK apartment. Take 2 as of now. :(. Broke. :(. So no dedication here.

2. Room Usage.

I dont have the budget or know any good people that can build the stuff I want(Yes, I have a dream HT) to get it done in my budget and time frame. And I always loved the idea of 1 in all room ideas. When my friends come over rather spend it there rather than in my bedroom where they go through all my stuff. :D :D :D. So it will be a multi purpose. I may not get the best of everything. but I am happy if i happy. ;)

3. Placement

I really dont understand the relevance if its a multi purpose room. But still i will get a pic drawn some how.

And also, projector. As of now I dont see how a projector setup can work out in current room. and around good amount of investment for the motorized screen and the ceiling mount. I am thinking of getting a 40 or 42 " as temp stop gap. then get the projector done in the future room.

The future room. I really hope those contractors will get their act together and start.. :(. No idea how long. :( :([DOUBLEPOST=1368045448][/DOUBLEPOST]Can anyone comment on these sets?

http://www.hifimart.com/systems-54/home-theatre-packages-82/
 
For the room size/purpose, floorstanders are not suggested. There are very many sets to choose from. KEF, Boston Acoustics, Paradigm, DefTech etc make excellent speakers. Don't see just the price, many speakers costing lower prices perform way better than much more expensive ones. For ex. Polk Klipsch makes the Energy Take Classic that would blow away many packages at twice the price. Since you are in the US, once again a great opportunity to demo as many speakers as you can.
 
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3. Placement

I really dont understand the relevance if its a multi purpose room. But still i will get a pic drawn some how.
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Umm, it's quite obvious isn't it? The main reason I ask is the distance of your seating from the screen and more importantly the speakers. Screen size and speakers will largely depend on that.
 
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@Jambumali

Please suggest few then. Lets see. :)

@Sei.

I am drawing up one right now. Will post as soon as i can get it finished
 
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any update , please do share with us :(

i am also in search for new home theater system to replace my existing sony 5.1 channel 1000w system.

My room dimension is aprox 32x16 F, and i already have a optoma projector, ordered 120-inch motorized screen from US.

Not able to settle for a home theater system :(:(
 
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