Ultima90 or Ultra120 Extreme ??

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BIKeINSTEIN

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I want to know if the TR Ultra120 Extreme really shines with a 75-85cfm odd and higher cfm fan.:)
Else the cheaper and lighter ultima90 is a no brainer for me.:D
My friend was using an Ultra120 Extreme with a SFlex 63cfm fan on his E4300 at 3Ghz but was feeling uneasy because of the weight and the cantilever stress.
He got an Ultima90 with a 92mm 48cfm Panaflo M1BX for trial and he is getting the same temps he had with the TRUE120.:O
So he sold his TRUE120 and is using the ultima90.:D
Now i am getting this feeling that the ultima might match the TRUE at OCes upto 3-3.6Ghz and the TRUE only pulls away at a clock speed higher than that with a high cfm fan.
Now i am confused :S , if to get
Ultima90+92mm Panaflo 56cfm H1BX fan (Delta Triblade 92x38 79cfm for benchies)
OR
TR Ultra120 Extreme with Panaflo 120x38 85cfm fan.
Will be playing with various chips - E4300, E6600, E6750, Q6600 'G0'. :ohyeah:
Please help me decide. :)
 
want my tuniq tower 120? its lying unused + its got a fan controller :)

also ultima wont match up at all against the true when using a quad core. it will get owned.
 
+1 for Ultima... I had my eye on TRUE, but the size and weight was bothering me. Since the knowledge of Ultima, I knew this was the sweet spot of Air Heatsink.

@Stormblast: What you're saying might be true, but then Quad-Core's usually don't OC as good as C2D processors. So I wonder if it would really make difference practically.
 
BIKeINSTEIN said:
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He got an Ultima90 with a 92mm 48cfm Panaflo M1BX for trial and he is getting the same temps he had with the TRUE120.:O
So he sold his TRUE120 and is using the ultima90.:D
Now i am getting this feeling that the ultima might match the TRUE at OCes upto 3-3.6Ghz and the TRUE only pulls away at a clock speed higher than that with a high cfm fan.
Now i am confused :S , if to get
Ultima90+92mm Panaflo 56cfm H1BX fan (Delta Triblade 92x38 79cfm for benchies)
OR
TR Ultra120 Extreme with Panaflo 120x38 85cfm fan.

You got that stress canteliver stress part correct, it is of concern,

As per the review on Anandtech, everything is the same except at 3.8+ and you have summed it well that upto 3.6, they are about equal.

Why are you limiting yourself to a 92mm fan on the Ultima, as per reviews you can get a couple of degrees extra with a 120mm.

And I haven't come across any review on the push pull on the ultima, while you are it, why don't you give that a shot too when playing around.

I would take the ultima, unless your goal was to see how far (fast) you can go, In which case, you have to go for the best, no matter how marginally better, in which case its the TRUE (wonder if that has a push pull arrangement)
 
Anandtech recently tested some new coolers and this time they used Coretemp to measure temp. The difference between the TRUE and Ultima is fairly big on load with the new testbed(i think 6 degrees) and with quad cores the gap will only increase
 
Well- i think even the earlier tests on C2D proved the TRUE is 5-6 degC better than the TRU/TuniQ and the ultima atleast matches the latter 2 if not beat them. :)
But to do all that in that kinda size and weight is commendable and makes it worth every penny. :ohyeah:

A quad simply demands a TRUE- period. :cool2:

Am i seeing things or did the tiny dude close the gap on it's big bro towards the final few Mhz- that too with a measly S-flex. :O
AnandTech: New Mid-Priced Coolers from OCZ and Scythe: The Small and the X of It
 
Thank you to everyone for your suggestions. :thumb:

My ultima90 will be here soon. :ashamed:
Coz as of now, mostly dual core chips here and i keep flipping the case to its side to fiddle inside.
So the ultima feels a lil safer and easier to take off and remount frequently. :P
I will most probably try the mounts that accompany the older 4pipe TRU120. :)

Will be getting a TRUE120 when i actually get a quadcore chip. :drool2:
 
stormblast said:
that is because it is much better than the ultima when ocing.

Not necessarily, I think. (based on reputed sites only and without any personal experience)

Quote from andndtech:-

"he Thermalright Ultima-90 is a surprisingly good cooler, made even more attractive by the smaller size, lighter weight, and lower price tag than most of the top air coolers tested at AnandTech. In virtually every measurement the Ultima-90 was at least the equal of all the top-tier coolers, matching or outperforming the Tuniq 120, Thermalright Ultra-120, Scythe Infinity with push-pull fans, and the Scythe Ninja Plus B/OCZ Vindicator running a high output SilenX IXTREME fan."
Pl see-
AnandTech: Thermalright Ultima-90: Small Wonder?
Review: Thermalright Ultima-90 ES vs TT120 (56k warn) - XtremeSystems Forums
 
janitha said:
Not necessarily, I think. (based on reputed sites only and without any personal experience)

Quote from andndtech:-

"he Thermalright Ultima-90 is a surprisingly good cooler, made even more attractive by the smaller size, lighter weight, and lower price tag than most of the top air coolers tested at AnandTech. In virtually every measurement the Ultima-90 was at least the equal of all the top-tier coolers, matching or outperforming the Tuniq 120, Thermalright Ultra-120, Scythe Infinity with push-pull fans, and the Scythe Ninja Plus B/OCZ Vindicator running a high output SilenX IXTREME fan."
Pl see-
AnandTech: Thermalright Ultima-90: Small Wonder?
Review: Thermalright Ultima-90 ES vs TT120 (56k warn) - XtremeSystems Forums

the extreme around 5 - 8degs better than the u120 depending on the processor/clocks/voltages.
 
stormblast said:
the extreme around 5 - 8degs better than the u120 depending on the processor/clocks/voltages.

Yes, true. But I thought U 90 may be useful for non-extreme overclockers.
From the very same link:-

The Ultima-90 is not the best air cooler we have tested. That distinction still belongs to big brother Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme. Where the Ultima-90 carries our CPU to a stable 3.90 GHz, the eXtreme pushes it to 3.94 GHz. The eXtreme also manages a few degrees better cooling than the Ultima-90 at higher overclocks. However, in all other respects the performance of both coolers is all but the same. The Ultra-120 eXtreme is bigger, heavier and costs about $65 retail, where Ultima-90 costs about $50. However, the Ultra-120 eXtreme remains the better performer. You will need to decide which attributes are most important to you. Beyond the Ultra-120 eXtreme, we do not know of an air cooler that outperforms the Ultima-90. Several other top models match its performance, but they don't outperform it.
 
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