[Update: Cancelled]BSNL - MTNL Merger by June 2015

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Prime Minister Narendra Modi has decided not to merge state-owned telecom firms MTNL and BSNL, a move that could well be termed as the first by the present NDA government to overturn a major decision of the previous UPA government.

Sources in the government said that instead of infusing fresh capital or merging them to revive the cash-strapped and loss-making BSNL and MTNL, the PM has asked the Department of Telecommunications (DoT) to consider a proposal for the outright purchase of the optic fibre cable (OFC) network of the former, which is the largest in the country. “Once owned by the DoT, the OFC network could be used for early rollout of the government’s ambitious ‘Digital India’ programme,” they added.
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Update: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/1409...ter-narendra-modi-rolls-back-bsnl-mtnl-merger










The Department of Telecom (DoT) has fixed June 2015 as the deadline for merging Bharat Sanchar Nigam Ltd and Mahanagar Telephone Nigam Ltd. The proposal has been hanging fire for three years in the face of vehement opposition by employees of the two state-owned companies.

However, the DoT has instructed the human resource managers at the two telecom PSUs to engage with employees and find a solution to their concerns. The HR department has been asked to submit a report by January. Consultations with the various employee unions will be held in March, according to the schedule prepared by the DoT

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Everyone knows whats the state of BSNL but with MTNL joining BSNL.. Bad days a head for MTNL customers?
 
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I'm not familiar with MTNL as it isn't setup here where I live, what's the deal with it? I know BSNL's care/employees are lazy as ..... but the service has always been top notch. I have tried BSNL at Jammu and Panchkula. Both were awesome. Though shitty FUP but atleast better than airtel's FUP and reliance's thunder plans shitty network.
 
MTNL is 100% better than BSNL anyday. Since Govt is also interested in Revamping BSNL organisation, they should concentrate on removing those old aged folks and Unnecessary benefits to retired employees like 10% discounts or Pensions. Let it be other company like Airtel or Idea.

There is an association at both BSNL & MTNL, who decide what will happen with company. Who the F** are they? Do they Earn all the money for the PSU? Throw all the Lazy a***h*** and bring in Hard workers who care for their job.
The cash-strapped BSNL has three lakh employees and is looking at getting about one lakh people off its payroll in a bid to cut down costs. By contrast, one its private counterparts Bharti Airtel has just about 23,000 employees.
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com...r-vrs-staff-outsource-work/article2512667.ece
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If it were a merger of private companies I would have said that the customers won't suffer. MTNL operates in only two circles and its expected that the work culture of a larger company will eclipse the work culture of the minority. In a good private merger one would expect that the best practices from either side would be retained.

That said I don't how MTNL works as I have never taken any services from them.
 
Total of a week of downtime in the last 3-5 years. I think BSNL line quality is one of the best in the country. Their service, as the old staff has managed to cope by now, is pretty good now.

Their plans however are a different thing. They definitely need to increase the current plan speeds atleast 4 times of the current ones on unlimited plans.
 
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There is an association at both BSNL & MTNL, who decide what will happen with company. Who the F** are they? Do they Earn all the money for the PSU? Throw all the Lazy a***h*** and bring in Hard workers who care for their job.
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These are people that are our parent's age and have spent their life working for BSNL. They might be lazy, but you cant just throw them off the ship. Either they go with Voluntary retirement or they need to be motivated.
 
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From my experience - services - YMMV. I had been to the BSNL fort office and Ghatkopar MTNL offices. Excellent service (though I did not get anything from BSNL). Andheri Darpan office - OKish.

As for the 10% discount OR retirement - they should offer VRS and close the deal.
 
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This sounds like a merger between Air India and Indian Airlines. If we are to draw parallels the merged company may suffer huge losses initially

economictimes.indiatimes.com/industry/transportation/airlines-/-aviation/air-india-on-right-path-to-turn-profitable-by-fy17/articleshow/41562687.cms
 
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Everyone knows whats the state of BSNL but with MTNL joining BSNL.. Bad days a head for MTNL customers?
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What makes you say that ?

if anything i'd have thought it would be bad days ahead for MTNL employees. mergers mean redendancies.
 
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As for the 10% discount OR retirement - they should offer VRS and close the deal.
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Sounds Good.

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These are people that are our parent's age and have spent their life working for BSNL. They might be lazy, but you cant just throw them off the ship. Either they go with Voluntary retirement or they need to be motivated.
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Right, So Work at the same speed how Pvt corporate employees work. Is that what you're suggesting?
You and I Might be impressed with the service of BSNL, Majority of them are disappointed.
Personally I visited the exchange, I dunno how frustrated they left me.

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What makes you say that ?

if anything i'd have thought it would be bad days ahead for MTNL employees. mergers mean redendancies.
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Indeed bad days for Employees.. It is a loss to MTNL customers also on the larger portion. The Type of Tariffs MTNL offers is not comparable to BSNL.
If i was asked to compare BSNL Chennai and BSNL Kolkata with Mahanagar Mum & Delhi.. I'd give a thumbs up to MTNL.
 
fwict problems with bsnl stems more from management level issues that the laziness of executives/field staff. also, looking at bad experiences my friends have had with mts and reliance broadband i can say that bsnl possibly owing to their lazy employees isn't as efficient in tricking and harassing the customer.
 
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I'm not familiar with MTNL as it isn't setup here where I live, what's the deal with it? I know BSNL's care/employees are lazy as ..... but the service has always been top notch. I have tried BSNL at Jammu and Panchkula. Both were awesome. Though shitty FUP but atleast better than airtel's FUP and reliance's thunder plans shitty network.
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BSNL is pathetic in every aspect compared to MTNL, plan wise, service wise, Support wise, downtime wise, Latency wise etc..
 
Main Drawback from BSNL is always Poor Plans, Pathetic routing and lastly Service. Downtime is relatively a small issue.
 
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downtime and latency wise, not really. It's surely depends on your location.
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Downtime location dependant but not Latency, Latency is bad for all BSNL users across India.. People playing cs on Indian servers get around 120-150 Latency, and if try to play on Singapore server, they get 150-250,be it Delhi or dibrugarh in assam.. That's due to bad BSNL routing, while on MTNL which uses Airtel routing, we get 60-80 ping to Singapore.
 
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i was just browsing through MTNL's page after a long time and felt joyous upon reading about the new changes & plan-offerings/services, and then i saw THIS page/news, and now am aghast (esp. after reading about what/how BSNL's [mis]management has recently landed the already-sickened-and-struggling organisation into a thick muck & sludge of serious drawbacks & disrepute, a few days back)! :hungover:
am going to start seriously praying for the well-being of MTNL & its customers now! _/\_
 
Guys this is a killer decision by DoT!
BSNl is currently migrating from Previous tech to latest tech which is used by NTT and China Mobile from Huawei.

Up till March when 4G rolls out BSNL will be the largest telecom in India!
 
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Is that not with all ISP providers. Specially the FUP logic.
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FUP Quota's are very tricky from every ISP. With the Increase in Speed your Usage Gets increased and ISP wants you to adjust with the Same 20-30 Gb FUP quota which is not possible in this HD era.
BSNL doesn't have sense making plans even in Urban cities, That what worries me. Rural market is all together a different one.
 
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