You can try asking her about neckband style bluetooth earphones. My mom isn't a fan of TWS either. She is okay with neckband earphones though.
Samsung has passive and active connectors. In the past, my tablet came with a passive one which are generally a lot cheaper since the device does the conversion and the connector is basically just a form factor without any DAC. Just check if the M52 does the same or not as then you need to probably spend only 100-200 bucks.
I think you will find that Samsung is simply saving the cost of not including the DAC in the phone itself and instead pushing a separate purchase. So getting the active connector is the safe bet.
Got the M52 for my mom in January 2022.
Man.. companies and their walled ecosystems. I faced this exact thing with OnePlus too
I also bought of some cheap company for 100 bucks. And it never worked. Even in father's realme phn it didn't work. That's why I recommend original one.
Actually there is some history behind this.
I didn't know this. Very interesting stuff. Thanks!Actually there is some history behind this.
When the phone companies started ditching 3.5mm jack, they still had an active DAC in the phone. The companies thought why not pass the analogue audio signals via USB-C port's unused pins. For simplification - they processed the digital data into anagloue audio on the phone's DAC and insted of passing it to the 3.5mm (which is not present on the phone), they used 4 spare pins on the USB-C port. Then they included a USB C to 3.5mm passive adapter which just connected those 4 pins on USB-C side to a 3.5mm TRRS jack. OnePlus did this OnePlus 7 Pro. Many other companies did it in their phones too. Then they stopped including these passive adapters in the box. Third party compaies started making these passive adapters.
Some companies chose not to passthrough analogue audio through unused pins on USB-C. They included an active DAC in their USB-C to 3.5mm adapter.
If you connect a passive adapter to a phone which doesn't pass analogue signal via USB-C, then it won't work. This created a lot of confusion. Then there are two different 3.5mm standards - OMTP & CTIA - it added to the confusion as we can see on some threads here. The possible combinations are many and only one will work in any given set of [Phone + Adaper + Earphones]. So yes, you can call it a lottery.
Hence the best bet is to buy froma local shop, try the connector there itself and then pay and be happy!Actually there is some history behind this.
When the phone companies started ditching 3.5mm jack, they still had an active DAC in the phone. The companies thought why not pass the analogue audio signals via USB-C port's unused pins. For simplification - they processed the digital data into anagloue audio on the phone's DAC and insted of passing it to the 3.5mm (which is not present on the phone), they used 4 spare pins on the USB-C port. Then they included a USB C to 3.5mm passive adapter which just connected those 4 pins on USB-C side to a 3.5mm TRRS jack. OnePlus did this OnePlus 7 Pro. Many other companies did it in their phones too. Then they stopped including these passive adapters in the box. Third party compaies started making these passive adapters.
Some companies chose not to passthrough analogue audio through unused pins on USB-C. They included an active DAC in their USB-C to 3.5mm adapter.
If you connect a passive adapter to a phone which doesn't pass analogue signal via USB-C, then it won't work. This created a lot of confusion. Then there are two different 3.5mm standards - OMTP & CTIA - it added to the confusion as we can see on some threads here. The possible combinations are many and only one will work in any given set of [Phone + Adaper + Earphones]. So yes, you can call it a lottery.
Or buy an active adapter (also known as USB DAC) which is guaranteed to work with any device like laptop/mobile phone/iPad etc. (mobile phone should support OTG).
Can confirm this works. Had the Apple dongle and can confirm both kinds of headphones work on it, along with mic and in line remote.
There has to be an inbuilt DAC else the loudspeaker and earpiece cannot work.
I think the push was to make water-resistant phones. We lost replaceable battery and headphone jack.
Understand the reason for this mess
Of course, I meant a discrete DAC wired to the Type-C connector, which also needs to support audio accessory mode. Gone are the days of 24-bit quad DACs with amplifiers. Not including one saves space and money. The ones for the speakers needn't be the high quality dedicated ones that were added to phones in the past. Those onboard DACs were much better than the miniature ones included in the dongles and you could better drive your headphones with much higher quality audio.
