Using a Wireless Router with Reliance Broadband

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I want to use a Wireless Router with Reliance Wired Broadband but my problem is that my connection has no Modem & needs a Web Login once every 24hrs.

It just has something to split the same connection for both Phone & Broadband.

When I attach the wire directly to the computer it works but when I attach it to the Wireless Router it doesn't.

So now my question is:

How do I setup my Wireless Router with my Reliance Wired Broadband Connection?

I use a Buffalo WHR-G54S Wireless Router flashed with Tomato firmware.
 
I've been using a Belkin router with Reliance wired broadband for quite some time. The reliance chap told me that the modem was just for splitting the internet connection so that I could use the phone even when the connection was occupied. So, when the modem stopped working, he asked me whether I use the phone. I said no since we have a BSNL connection for landline purposes. So, he connected the wire directly. :P

The setup is simple. The broadband wire goes into the router. The wire from the router goes to your PC. That's it. The router will get configured to share the connection. You can play with the other settings related to security i.e. passkey etc. Currently, I've connected my download rig to the router via the ethernet cable. The lappy and the ipod touch use the net via wi-fi.

Nothing complicated. Just connect it and follow the instructions for configuring the Buffalo router. Post back if you run into any issues. :)
 
Sei said:
I've been using a Belkin router with Reliance wired broadband for quite some time. The reliance chap told me that the modem was just for splitting the internet connection so that I could use the phone even when the connection was occupied. So, when the modem stopped working, he asked me whether I use the phone. I said no since we have a BSNL connection for landline purposes. So, he connected the wire directly. :P

The setup is simple. The broadband wire goes into the router. The wire from the router goes to your PC. That's it. The router will get configured to share the connection. You can play with the other settings related to security i.e. passkey etc. Currently, I've connected my download rig to the router via the ethernet cable. The lappy and the ipod touch use the net via wi-fi.

Nothing complicated. Just connect it and follow the instructions for configuring the Buffalo router. Post back if you run into any issues. :)

router in which mode?
 
u need to select the option so that the ip and dns address are given to u by the server, also u need to login first from at least one computer to start sharing the connection.
 
Udit said:
router in which mode?

Are you talking about Infrastructure mode? Since this is a router, it is running in Infrastructure mode. AFAIK, the other mode is ad-hoc and that is only when we connect 2 lappies together or any 2 or more devices temporarily. More about infrastructure mode:

Iinfrastructure mode bridges WLANs (basically the Internet) with a wired Ethernet LAN and also scales the network to support more clients.

Setting Up Infrastructure Mode :





Setting up infrastructure mode for wireless connectivity is not that hard, all we are require to follow number of steps which will do the job.

We need to make sure that Internet cable is plugged in Ethernet port, second step is to configure Access Panel. This is basically the home page of the router where you can configure different settings.

http://192.168.1.1 is usually the access panel address. Write this URL at your Internet browser, username and password window will appear, default settings are usually, admin username and admin password.

We name the connection name which will appear to all wireless devices, then we enable infrastructure mode and also assign SSID in the switch/router for it broadcast



Now we scan wireless adaptor to see if any wireless network is available to connect, when configured network is appear, click and connect and provide SSID information, here you should be able to connect to the network for internet browsing and file sharing.

I did not fiddle with any of the settings. I'm not using the router as an access point. This way I can enable the firewall. There are some features like external ping blocking etc. This is what is written in my router home page regarding the access point setting.

ADVANCED FEATURE! The Router can be configured to act as strictly an Access Point, bypassing all of the routing and firewall functions.

As you must be knowing already, the router has an inbuilt DHCP server that will assign IP to your PCs. You can configure that also. Just open the router page and go through it. From your talks it seems you have not tried it till now that's why you are having these questions. :)

I did not consult any manual for it and I had zero knowledge when I got the router. It's pretty self-explanatory.
 
Using the dynamic mode. Working fine here.

A Dynamic type of connection is the most common. If you use a cable modem, then most likely you will have a dynamic connection. If you have a cable modem or you are not sure of your connection type, use this.
 
^ Oh, I've got a Dynamic connection option along with the others you mentioned above. You've tried with the DHCP? It should work fine.

Automatic Configuration – DHCP - Choose this option to obtain an IP address automatically from your ISP. (For most cable modem users). Optionally key in a name for this router. The default MAC address is set to the WAN’s MAC address on the router.

Seems similar to the Dynamic option I got.

Edit: It seems you have tried the DHCP option. Let some Buffalo router owner post here. What stage are you stuck at? Are you being able to open the home page of the router?
 
Sei said:
^ Oh, I've got a Dynamic connection option along with the others you mentioned above. You've tried with the DHCP? It should work fine.
Seems similar to the Dynamic option I got.

ok I'll try tomorrow afternoon
thanks
 
Ideally you should have MAC filtering turned on and enter the MACs of all the PCs on the network (and my N85, which I'll add the next time I'm there).

Router mode should be at 'static' and IPs assigned on the client machines manually (Adapter settings - TCPIP v4 configuration). Much easier to control everything that way. Fixed IPs always seem to work better for me, and you can start your DHCP server from a few addresses down the line if the firmware allows it (looks like yours doesn't). I reserve the IP range from 100 to 104, and I let DHCP assign addresses from 105 onwards. Since the firmware you have does not allow mixed-mode operation you'll have to take a call on how you want the PCs in your network to operate. DHCP basically lets the router assign local IPs, in static mode the clients use fixed IPs in the same subnet range to connect to the router (provided they authenticate correctly).

This has got nothing to do with whether your ISP is giving you a fixed or Dynamic IP.

The router configuration page (usually the first page, or a very easily locatable one) needs to have your IP details or be set to obtain from ISP. I'm not sure how well it works in Dynamic mode, some routers have issues obtaining an IP from the ISP.

Also, set your DNS to openDNS or Google DNS. They work a lot better than the sucky DNS our ISPs seem to use.
 
cranky said:
Ideally you should have MAC filtering turned on and enter the MACs of all the PCs on the network (and my N85, which I'll add the next time I'm there).

Router mode should be at 'static' and IPs assigned on the client machines manually (Adapter settings - TCPIP v4 configuration). Much easier to control everything that way. Fixed IPs always seem to work better for me, and you can start your DHCP server from a few addresses down the line if the firmware allows it (looks like yours doesn't). I reserve the IP range from 100 to 104, and I let DHCP assign addresses from 105 onwards. Since the firmware you have does not allow mixed-mode operation you'll have to take a call on how you want the PCs in your network to operate. DHCP basically lets the router assign local IPs, in static mode the clients use fixed IPs in the same subnet range to connect to the router (provided they authenticate correctly).

This has got nothing to do with whether your ISP is giving you a fixed or Dynamic IP.

The router configuration page (usually the first page, or a very easily locatable one) needs to have your IP details or be set to obtain from ISP. I'm not sure how well it works in Dynamic mode, some routers have issues obtaining an IP from the ISP.

Also, set your DNS to openDNS or Google DNS. They work a lot better than the sucky DNS our ISPs seem to use.

I don't like the mac filtering & static ip ideas.

I just need to have the router set to obtain details from ISP, add a wep password & transmit the signal without any more mumbo jumbo.

Will dhcp mode do that?
 
cranky said:
The router configuration page (usually the first page, or a very easily locatable one) needs to have your IP details or be set to obtain from ISP. I'm not sure how well it works in Dynamic mode, some routers have issues obtaining an IP from the ISP.



Also, set your DNS to openDNS or Google DNS. They work a lot better than the sucky DNS our ISPs seem to use.

He doesn't have the option of a dynamic mode. I tried my connection with PPPOE but it didn't work. The help page of my router says that if the connection is to be dialed in any other way except the browser, only then the PPPOE mode should be used. I don't know how my Reliance connection differs from PPPOE.

At the moment, I think DHCP is the option that will work. Test it and report back please! :)
 
Sei said:
He doesn't have the option of a dynamic mode. I tried my connection with PPPOE but it didn't work. The help page of my router says that if the connection is to be dialed in any other way except the browser, only then the PPPOE mode should be used. I don't know how my Reliance connection differs from PPPOE.

At the moment, I think DHCP is the option that will work. Test it and report back please! :)

ok will report tomorrow

DHCP Mode worked exactly like I wanted

thanks a lot Sei & cranky :)
 
^ Told ya.. Now, where are the reps? :P

Hehe, just kidding.. told you it was a breeze to install. Enjoy! :)

PS: Also, don't use WEP.. it is better if you go along with WPA2 i.e. if it is available on your router.
 
WPA2 is more secure than WEP. WEP passwords can be cracked in a few minutes.

That said, since you live in an apartment complex, unless your neighbour is stealing your wifi you needn't worry. And knowing where you live, that does not seem to be a possibility.
 
cranky said:
WPA2 is more secure than WEP. WEP passwords can be cracked in a few minutes.

That said, since you live in an apartment complex, unless your neighbour is stealing your wifi you needn't worry. And knowing where you live, that does not seem to be a possibility.

Sei said:
There are lots of security vulnerabilities associated with WEP. Read up here for more details:

WEP vs WPA - what is better solution

oh ok

I don't think my ps3 supports wpa2 so I'll use wep only :)
 
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