Vista ultimate crashing on 4GB

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I added another 2 gb of same ram on my dual boot xp-vista.

XP is working fine but Vista is giving BSOD, it boots fine without any error as I start working on any application it crashes.

I edited the BCDedit to enable the 3gb switch as follows:

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At the command prompt [cmd.exe] type in:

BCDEDIT /set increaseuserva 3072

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How can I make this work with Vista?

Another question now I need to ask is 32 bit OS wasting 1gb from 4gb?

Default setting is 2gb for OS & 2gb for kernel

when we enable 3gb switch & add 4gb ram, what it does is that from 2gb it increases to 3gb for OS & 1gb for kernel.

Is there any real benefit having 4gb while multitasking on a graphic system mainly using Photoshop image processing/downloading via ftp/chatting/& music running in background? or we are wasting the ram resource.

I am not sure if I use any application which makes use of 4gb memory.
 
I don't recommend running Vista x86 with more than 2GB Ram. you're messing with the natural order and that's never good. putting that aside, what BSOD are you getting? please specify the error message as well the application being used. as for having 4GB Memory, the rule of thumb still applies here; the more ram you have, the better. If you want to use 4GB, Dump Dual Booting and Install a 64-bit operating system. I would like to clear a myth that 32-bit OSes don't support more than 3.25GB Physical ram. that's untrue, Microsoft simply didn't add this feature in Vista/XP 32-bit. Windows Server 2003 (x86) supports and detects over 4GB of physical ram. I take you're familar with SuperFetch, Windows Vista caches your system ram with the most recent application to make sure they open-up in a ziffy (it unloads them really fast as well) hence the more Physical ram you have, the better. as for applications that use 4GB, frankly, no desktop application uses 4GB. it would be insane if they did (Imagine Firefox eating 3GB!) however, when running multiple resource hungry applications, 4GB Ram gives a really great performance boost. this scenario is different in gaming however, games like Supreme Commander, Unreal 3.0 Based games all of them eat 1.5GB-2.5GB so having 4GB memory greatly benefits them as well. Try Installing KB940105 and see if this helps
 
BSOD screenshots are as follows, different time I am getting different errors, I tested ram with memtest86 3.3 & it did not detect errors with both 2gb pairs & with all 4gb together.











In safe mode vista runs fine, so whats causing the error is not known to me.
 
Firstly, I would like to say that you have guts! if I got that many BSODs, I would literally set my computer on fire ;) secondly, the reason you're not getting BSODs in Safe mode is because in safe mode, Windows Unloads all drivers except for the crucial ones. this seems to be a mixture of memory leak (MEMORY_MANAGEMENT) and faulty drivers (IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL). Download and Install KB929338 unless your Hard disk is faulty (hardware wise) this will most definitely fix the issue. also, next time you post, mention your FULL system specs.
 
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My system specs is as follows
E6300@1.86Ghz,
P5B-Dlx Wifi,
4GB Transcend DDR2 800Mhz,
XFX 7600GT,
Lenovo 20"Widescreen LCD,
Seagate SATA2 HDD160/250/320GB,
Sony DVDRW,
APC UPS 800VA

I updated KB929338 from the link you mentioned & seems it has solved the problem since its now running last 20 mins without crashing.
I am now downloading nvidia latest driver too assuming that should solve the problem.
 
ranjan2001 said:
My system specs is as follows

E6300@1.86Ghz,

P5B-Dlx Wifi,

4GB Transcend DDR2 800Mhz,

XFX 7600GT,

Lenovo 20"Widescreen LCD,

Seagate SATA2 HDD160/250/320GB,

Sony DVDRW,

APC UPS 800VA

I updated KB929338 from the link you mentioned & seems it has solved the problem since its now running last 20 mins without crashing.

I am now downloading nvidia latest driver too assuming that should solve the problem.
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Good to hear that:) Keep me updated
 
I updated the nvidia driver to latest 162.18 (32bit vista)

& I still got this BSOD


UPDATE to my old post

I updated vista with KB940105 & not the one i posted thats for XP (KB929338)

Now what else could be the problem, HDD???

Its new 320 gb hdd seagate barcudda.
 
since everything is running fine in XP, it's not hardware. it's a driver-software conflict, there can be various reasons for it, since everything is failed so far, I'll head to basics, did you ENABLE the memory Remap feature in BIOS? If not, then enable It and Undo the BCDedit tweak. If BSODs still continue, try this:

1 - you have three hard disks, are you running them in RAID? If so, did you Install RAID Drivers During Installation of Vista? grab the latest P5B DLX WiFi RAID Drivers HERE

2 - Does this occur in QuickTime? Download KB932094 Hotfix

get back after trying this.
 
Enable memory remap is only for 64bit OS , so it remains disabled (checked at asus forum)

As of now I already deleted the BCDedit tweak & after that I posted the BSOD screen shots

I am not having any hdd in RAID, neither installed any raid drivers.

Ouicktime is not installed on vista yet

So all of this is ruled out & some how we now need to pin point driver-software conflict as u mentioned.

Thanks for all ur help.
 
Well, This is getting Frustrating and Interesting. When you get BSODs, which applications/games are you exactly using? It's a shot in the dark but it's worth It I guess...
 
no particular application is causing this BSOD, different times different application being used & it crashes. Last it crashed when only firefox was running I was typing a reply to this forum.

I have to make a list of drivers which are not loaded in safe mode vs which are loaded in normal mode & then enable them 1-1 to see which one is causing this BSOD, or I am thinking to have a fresh install of vista on another partition just for testing & see if that crashes or not.
 
Intersting...

Check if your system files are corrupted.....

Before anyone shouts out that it is nothign related,I would like you to know that I had a similar problem due to a few corrupt files....

So let me know if the files are OK
 
I think this could be a page file issue. Why don't you head over to system properties and manually set the page file to 1500MB or less. Make sure it isn't being handled automatically. 4GB of ram would imply a system-set page file of 6GB+. That might be causing your applications to crash. So manually ensure that your page file or no greater than 1000-1500MB.

Try this and let me know.
 
This was the auto setting on Vista



I changed that to min 600mb & max to 1800 mb, rebooted & the comp still crashed after the boot.

So this does not work either.
 
Both ram may not be same & thsi might be causing BSOD

Old ram reads- JM388Q643A-8

New ram reads- JM800QLJ-1G

so do you think this can be the issue, I am not sure if these number do indicate some difference in the ram,
specification mentioned on the box seems same
1GB
240P DDR2 DIMM (128M x 64)
(64M x 8 DDR@ 800 5-5-5)
 
Don't mess with the page file. Let Vista manage it. that's not the issue, 6GB Page file works just fine here. Regarding ram, Incompatible ram can cause problems, I remember a long time ago, one my Ram Sticks went dead (Kingston Value Ram DDR400MHz 512MB) I got it RMAed but the stick I got back In return was single sided (the memory chips were only at one side) because of that, WindowsXP only detected 512MB even thought 1GB was Installed. I know it sounds a bit irreverent, What I am trying to say is that, Incompatible ram can cause problems. and Vista is a bit finicky, Remove one of the sticks and see if that solves problems. also, Did you Reinstall Vista?
 
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