CPU/Mobo Want to upgrade cpu,mobo, ram.

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scudmissile07

Confusingly confused!
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1. Q: What is your budget?
a. 25k
2. Q: What is your existing hardware configuration?
a. Intel core2 duo e8400, MSI p45 neo mobo, transcend 3*1gb ddr2 ram, corsair vx550, zotac gtx460 1gb, nzxt gamma, view sonic 1918 wm, WD320gb, coolermaster N620.
3. Q: Which hardware will you be keeping
(component name - component brand and
model)
a. Except cpu, mobo &ram everything.
4. Q: Which hardware component are you looking
to buy (component name). If you have already
decided on a configuration then please mention
the (component brand and model) as well, this
will help us in fine tuning your requirement.
a. CPU -Intel i5-3570K or 2500k
b. Motherboard - any compatible motherboard
(Asus, Gigabyte or MSI)
c. 4GB DDR3 ram.
5. Q: Is this going to be your final configuration or
you would be adding/upgrading a component
in near future. If yes then please mention when
and which component
a. No, this is final. May add a hdd when price reduce but not in hurry.
6. Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/
City/TE Dealer)
a. S.P. Road, bangalore.
b. Open to online purchase
7. Q: Would you consider buying a second hand
hardware from the TE market
a. Yes
8. Q: What is your intended use for this PC/
hardware
a. Gaming
b. Browsing
c. Desktop Processing
d. HTPC
f. Watching HD movies
9. Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike?
Please name them and the reason for your
preference/dislike.
a. None
10. Q: If you will be playing games then which type
of games will you be playing?
a. Racing - NFS at high settings
b. Simulation - AOE,
c. Upcoming fps, tps title.
11. Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for
gaming and normal usage
1. Gaming - 1080p.
2. Desktop - 1080p will connect to a 40 inch tv.
12. Q: Are you looking to overclock?
a. YES, definitely.
13. Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
a. Windows 7 32bit.

My question is if I upgrade the cpu will gtx460 will be a bottleneck.
As their is no major difference in performance between 3570k & 2500K, which is a better buy?
TIA
:)
 
Buy the one that you think will fit your needs. If there is still small difference between the two that you like, buy the more expensive one if you have the budget.
 
i5-2500k - 13.6k
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4- 10k
G.Skill RipjawsX 4GB*2 = 3.2k

Total = 26.8k

My question is if I upgrade the cpu will gtx460 will be a bottleneck.
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How will the GPU be a bottleneck ? Infact it would provide more room for further GPU upgrade.

As their is no major difference in performance between 3570k & 2500K, which is a better buy?
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i5-2500k hands down. More OCability, lesser temps, and 3k cheaper with absolutely same performance.
 
OP should go for 1600mhz ram kit also for overclocking Noctua NH-U12P SE2-3.9k is what OP should get.Existing psu is good enough to do the job.
JuGGa said:
i5-2500k - 13.6k
ASRock Z77 Extreme 4- 10k
G.Skill RipjawsX 4GBX2 1600MHZ = 3.2k
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For serious overclocking above 4ghz which OP will go for considering he's gunning up for it,It's better to go with noctua cooler which can easily give 4.5ghz and still provide cooler temps.Which Hyper 212 EVO won't be able to do.Hope this clears stuff.:)
JuGGa said:
^OK.
I missed the cooler, Cooler Master hyper 212 evo should suffice, why Noctua ?
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scudmissile07 said:
Guys, I currently have cooler master N620 cpu cooler will it handle 4.2-4.5Ghz on 2500k.
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I think it will be adequate, though I do not know if it is compatible.

Jakob said:
Nope,You should get above suggested cooler.
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It is a good looking hunk of metal don't see any reason why it should not be able to close the gap between itself and the Noctua; its fin density looks higher too.

Please note that a Cooler Master V6GT can provide cooling just as well as the Noctua NH-U12P SE2 but the latter will be far more quieter in operation.
 
ordered the above stated combo,hope it turns out well,system builder gave me a good offer on kingston hyperx ram with this combo,one of my friend told he has extra 2*2gb ram so turned down the offer.Today came to know that its ddr2.
Now I need ram for it,only 4gb is enough confused between rights ripjaws/ripjawsx/sniper & corsair xms3/vengeance.
Will be ocing 2600k to around 4-4.2ghz initially.
 
scudmissile07 said:
Now I need ram for it,only 4gb is enough confused between rights ripjaws/ripjawsx/sniper & corsair xms3/vengeance.
Will be ocing 2600k to around 4-4.2ghz initially.
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Ask System Builder if you can still buy the Kingston HyperX RAM modules.

Even then any decent ~1600MHz dual-channel-kit should give you similar performance. Here is an interesting read on the same -- AnandTech - Sandy Bridge Memory Scaling: Choosing the Best DDR3 / DDR3 SDRAM for Sandy Bridge: Choosing the Best Memory for LGA1155 Platform - X-bit labs.

Sandy Bridge's improved memory controller has all but eliminated the need for extreme memory bandwidth, at least for this architecture. It's only when you get down to DDR3-1333 that you see a minor performance penalty.

Some applications do react differently to higher memory speeds than others. The compression and video encoding tests benefited the most from the increased memory bandwidth while the overall synthetic benchmark and 3D rendering test did not. If your primary concern is gaming, you’ll want to consider investing in more GPU power instead of a faster system memory; likewise, a faster CPU will be far more useful than more memory performance for most applications.

Memory bandwidth does scale with CPU clock speed; however, it still doesn't translate into any meaningful real-world performance. The sweet spot still appears to be DDR3-1600. All of the extra performance gained by overclocking almost certainly comes from the CPU overclock itself and not from the extra memory bandwidth. Although the effects of low latency memory can be seen in our bandwidth tests, they don't show any real world advantage over their higher latency (ahem, cheaper) counterparts. None of the real-world tests performed showed any reason to prefer low latency over raw speed.
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thanks for your input @ALPHA17.
Since speed & latency doesn't create any huge difference,will buy the gskill sniper:gunsmile: as I liked the design.
 
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Update,Assembled the components & fired the rig.
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There are few pros & cons of mobo compared to old mobo
Pros:

  • Diagnose Leds to easily detect problems.
Cons:

  • mATX form factor everything clumsy.

  • No ide & pci slots
  • PCIe slots & ram slots nearear to cpu socket ,difficult to install high profile air coolers

  • 90degree sata ports difficult to plug & remove sata cables
Will install some games & update the improvements.
:)
 
@scudmissile07, looks beautiful. Congratulations and hope it serves you well.

Glad to know that your old Cooler Master N620 is still compatible.
 
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