What do you think about our Foreign Minister
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I honestly was about to reply on similar lines on his comment earlier but I said forget it. ....Desh mein sabko bolne ka hak hai...Bruh... What side are you on? So you are saying we should have gone on an all out war? Luckily for us, sane voices in govt and army chose ceasefire over mindless annihilation of millions of people in a war. A war that was best avoided proves that we are pussy cats? You are those persons who will blame the establishment just for the sake of it. "Damn if you do and double damn if you don't."
I'm still a bit confused by this.
Visa-free travel, including to and from Pakistan?
Which sensible leader would EVER even consider this?
exactly! I'm all for war but personally, those who are gonna be fighting on the frontlines of it should be the ones speaking if its necessary or not, we all can yap however we want from the comfort of our homes, getting fat on Swiggy/Zomato deliveries in AC rooms, but plop us in the middle of a warzone? Let's see how quick our tune changesBruh... What side are you on? So you are saying we should have gone on an all out war? Luckily for us, sane voices in govt and army chose ceasefire over mindless annihilation of millions of people in a war. A war that was best avoided proves that we are pussy cats? You are those persons who will blame the establishment just for the sake of it. "Damn if you do and double damn if you don't."
While we debate about sensibility , there are a lot of Indians who still go to Pakistan for religious , family reasons . Same is the case with families from Pakistan .
We have a shared , common history and we have in the past broken Pakistan into 2 . When the British left they wanted India to be surrounded by Pakistan who fueled the original divide and forced us into breaking us as Hindu majority and Muslim majority .
After kargil ...when Vajpayee had call Musharaf and there seem to be some scope of peace process again.
I use to think same way but this country is difficult to talk to and make a deal. Because firstly it is controlled by Military . One Democratic county cannot hold proper dialogues and expect them to respect rules.
Second point ..Pakistan is very unstable . Its fire power lies with military , Its vision and ideology goes along with Extremist , It's democracy is puppet show, It's nuclear weapons has very irresponsible policy. it's economy is dependent on begging.
Asa pagal se kaun dosti karega.
I comment on things I know better . So , yes the engagement on the site is limited to topics I know . There is a lot of material with regard to news /reports and even videos . It all takes a bit of understanding . Not everything needs to be spoon fed .
Are the Indian voices sane enough ? Are we not following the same path that Pakistan is following ? Do we not have a clown who created Operation Sindoor , made bombastic statements at election rally , fueled war narratives , went and attacked foreign sovereign territory and then chickened out ?
Why should you trust me or I trust you ? End of the day it is all out there . Just like someone was asking for proof of terrorists being killed in Mumbai attacks . 2 whole days the world saw the forces engage with terrorists , yet wants proof . How silly is that ?
Yes that is why we stopped at right time.
All along the way we acted responsibility. Striked only Jihadist points, After Pakistan retaliated ....we striked on their military bases. All this while keeping a restraint.
To some extent I say yes we are becoming little extremist too but it is still not reached a point where it is scary.
Sadly some politics game will be played here too. There is no defending this or old govt.
Again same answer some politics will be played for sure.
how many more terrorist attacks should we continue to live with before telling Pakistan that enough is enough ...
Now now.. you also need to think about someone from the other side of the fence, don't you?
We did not stop at the right time . " Trump" forced us to stop . At least that is what Trump told the whole world and he brokered a ceasefire . That is why I said we chickened out not before Pakistan but before a 3rd country mediation which is worse .
I am sure the majority of the people in Pakistan also want peace . Do you think they are happy selling their daughters to Chinese for money ? A few extremists who happen to be funded by some countries in the Middle east and the west cause the chaos and bad name .Those terrorists are very essential in the grand scheme of things for the west and for the midddle east to exert their influence . It would be easy if we had a proper plan , an international participation and the determination to end terrorism . Politics , vote banks , rhetoric is the rule of the day and I am sad most Indians , even the educated are victims of that propaganda .
If the Indian govt does not have a plan for clearing extremists and terrorists in the Indian subcontinent then we are not doing things right .
Sri Lanka had terrorists who were much more organised and more brutal . After their eradication is the country not peaceful ? Do we not have visa free travel , businesses , free trade with SL ?
It’s clear that you don’t know anything about this topic and best you stay out of it instead of taking both sides of the argument.
BTW Trump has fallen flat on his face more times than CSK has lost IPL matches. India has denied that Trump had any role in ceasefire. We don’t believe our own but believe an orange man from far distant country.
oh! sorry . I did not know you were a IFS officer and you work in the North and South blocks .
Everybody is learning new things about this two day conflict every now and then:
Op Sindoor: Pak Dossier Shows India Struck More Targets Than Revealed
India struck more Pakistan targets during Operation Sindoor than our forces acknowledged, an official dossier in Pakistan has revealed.
www.ndtv.com
So if i understand you trying to say....They should have not waged war and if they did...they should have totally gone for complete destruction?
Right?
or again I am missing something.
Yaar bohat confuse kar deta hai.....
Pak dossier is avaliable only to Ndtv , republic tv , aajtak ? lol . These channels are run for mere propaganda , gullible whatsapp uncles and aunties . their source of information is mostly " confidential sources " , " officials " etc . More like the "trust me bro " . Disinformation is now the new DNA of Indian media .Everybody is learning new things about this two day conflict every now and then:
Op Sindoor: Pak Dossier Shows India Struck More Targets Than Revealed
India struck more Pakistan targets during Operation Sindoor than our forces acknowledged, an official dossier in Pakistan has revealed.
When Pakistan is crumbling within , this would have been our best chance to split them into 3 different countries . We went to war, did not go full scale and we came back not because of fear but because a 3rd country choose to dictate terms to us . From 1993 we started buying arms and ammunition left and right for our defence against terrorism . There is so much internal stability in Pakistan and we lost a good chance to split it into 3 countries .
We have Iran , Afghanistan to back us up , yet we choose to have a ceasefire because USA wanted it .
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The U.S. Didn’t Single-Handedly Broker an India-Pakistan Armistice | Washington Monthly
The Trump administration dangerously complicated matters, offering more proof of why we need experts, what it disparages as the “Deep State.”
washingtonmonthly.com
"In fact, the Trump administration dangerously complicated matters, offering more proof of why we need experts, what it disparages as the “Deep State.”
Finally, India makes it official: Trump didn't broker India-Pakistan ceasefire | India News - The Times of India
India News: NEW DELHI: India on Tuesday reiterated its rejection of US President Donald Trump's offer to mediate in the dispute with Pakistan over J&K, and said I.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
From what I understood, he meant that we attacked the foreign sovereign territory of Pakistan, and then chickened out because Trump "forced" a ceasefire
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The US deep state Vs India Deep state. What is the difference?The U.S. Didn’t Single-Handedly Broker an India-Pakistan Armistice | Washington Monthly
The Trump administration dangerously complicated matters, offering more proof of why we need experts, what it disparages as the “Deep State.”
"In fact, the Trump administration dangerously complicated matters, offering more proof of why we need experts, what it disparages as the “Deep State.”
Finally, India makes it official: Trump didn't broker India-Pakistan ceasefire | India News - The Times of India
India News: NEW DELHI: India on Tuesday reiterated its rejection of US President Donald Trump's offer to mediate in the dispute with Pakistan over J&K, and said I.
From what I understood, he meant that we attacked the foreign sovereign territory of Pakistan, and then chickened out because Trump "forced" a ceasefire
What constitutes the respective deep states?
Please elobarate.