What's your perspective on the India's future?

[rocking]

Speculations !! Private sector has achieved nothing and this in itself is a proof that reservation has no negative impact on anything.

Private sector is the reason of Tech, grows and reserved people getting feed on salaried people and complain about the so called manipulative caste system.

The government knows better than a random guy on the internet, hence the caste census so we can push the talentless casteist out and bring real talent who were denied education & knowledge in the first place.

Government knows better for sure but as i said, Government works for their existences. they want to be in power, anyhow. When reserved people will get knowledge, they will stop blindly following it's leaders. Government wants their vote bank and control them as they want. instead of focusing on overall education in government school, i don't know how caste census will identify the uneducated. even if we called higher caste people are also poor, uneducated and often struggle for daily food.

 

[solo_wing]

I wonder whose voted for Golden age incoming.
Adani ,Ambani , Kangana may be members here too...ek baar dekho toh IDs.

 

[alekhkhanna]

Speculations !! Private sector has achieved nothing and this in itself is a proof that reservation has no negative impact on anything.

Bruh.. Ask me please.
Gave UP PMT (before NEET was even a thing) back in 2003. Results with marks used to get declared in the newspaper back then. I distinctly remember getting somewhere around 80-85% marks, but couldn't get into KGMC Lucknow.
Quota guys got NEGATIVE marks and got into a prestigious institution. Lol.
Recently we saw Radio seats in AIIMS which had no general category seats available - only quotas.
We are ****ed. Well and truly.

 

[Woodspirit]

its a growing economy and even though i dont quite like the current regime but they arent foolish to involve in any wars which would set us back 20 years economically. from a financial point of view, i would invest in indian equity

 

[Darth Vader]

Private sector is the reason of Tech, grows and reserved people getting feed on salaried people and complain about the so called manipulative caste system.

Its not manipulative, just pure barbaric oppression and the private sector just exist and even without reservation all your so called talents didnt do anything to uplift the country into super power.

Government knows better for sure but as i said, Government works for their existences. they want to be in power, anyhow. When reserved people will get knowledge, they will stop blindly following it's leaders. Government wants their vote bank and control them as they want. instead of focusing on overall education in government school, i don't know how caste census will identify the uneducated. even if we called higher caste people are also poor, uneducated and often struggle for daily food.

Economic condition & reservation has nothing to do with each other. You cant remove/change your caste even if you become rich, the caste follows you to death. Sad truth !!

Bruh.. Ask me please.
Gave UP PMT (before NEET was even a thing) back in 2003. Results with marks used to get declared in the newspaper back then. I distinctly remember getting somewhere around 80-85% marks, but couldn't get into KGMC Lucknow.
Quota guys got NEGATIVE marks and got into a prestigious institution. Lol.
Recently we saw Radio seats in AIIMS which had no general category seats available - only quotas.
We are ****ed. Well and truly.

You want merit to be the only measure of talent, then everyone in this country should be given equal treatment, opportunities & education from the birth. Then we can compare scores & numbers. Not everyone starts at the same place. I get your point, but its not simple black & white approach.

 

[rocking]

People with no mind can't digest a single thing. Questions that i would ask people who think reservation is right and should be given even in private sector.

1. Would you send your children in government school and prioritize to be teach by a reserved teacher?
2. Would you or family would get treated by a doctor that has come through Quota?
3. Would you hire a person with no skill that will addd no value to your company but get a free pay because?
4. Would you hire a person to build your home who not know anything about constructions, electrical wiring?

If you can't, don't cry when someone ask for the right thing for right job.

 

[Woodspirit]

Its not manipulative, just pure barbaric oppression and the private sector just exist and even without reservation all your so called talents didnt do anything to uplift the country into super power.

Economic condition & reservation has nothing to do with each other. You cant remove/change your caste even if you become rich, the caste follows you to death. Sad truth !!

You want merit to be the only measure of talent, then everyone in this country should be given equal treatment, opportunities & education from the birth. Then we can compare scores & numbers. Not everyone starts at the same place. I get your point, but its not simple black & white approach.

well said. its the caste privilege in itself which makes people say things like oh reservation should be removed altogether

 

[Koooshiiikk]

AI and robotics are definitely shaking up tech and manufacturing. Jobs are getting automated faster than expected, and countries like Wazzup Beijing are racing ahead. India, despite its talent, risks falling behind without serious structural change BUT while most are focused on job loss, few are thinking about how this tech shift impacts national security. With rising cyber threats, autonomous weapons and drone warfare, defense is evolving fast and That’s why I’m preparing for the NDA examination because in a world driven by AI, we’ll still need real people to lead, protect, and make the calls that machines can’t.

I cleared the written exam on the 28th of last month. Now heading for the SSB. Wish me luck, everyone!

 

[bssunilreddy]

You said a lot and implied a lot more.

The government knows better than a random guy on the internet, hence the caste census so we can push the talentless casteist out and bring real talent who were denied education & knowledge in the first place.

Where ever the need arises we used our connections to rise up either in private or govt sector based on caste, creed, region and religion. Then what is the use of this caste census now I don't understand? Just to create more differences among ourselves that's all.

Can the govt eradicate caste system completely? No right?

Sometimes I appreciate the Tamilians in regards with their language status and Jalli kattu status. They stand united when the need arises both opposition and party in power where as in other states it's the opposite. We all have to learn from them in this regard.

 

[psyph3r]

Sometimes I appreciate the Tamilians in regards with their language status and Jalli kattu status. They stand united when the need arises both opposition and party in power where as in other states it's the opposite. We all have to learn from them in this regard.

They aren't free from this disease either.

Caste Hindus attack SC youth in Tamil Nadu for riding two-wheeler; three held

Tamil Nadu caste violence: A 20-year-old Scheduled Caste youth, student of the government college in Sivaganga district, was attacked by a three-member gang of caste Hindus for riding a motorcycle

www.thehindu.com

 

[rocking]

Indian's are get used to, of looting free things, they have thrown their brain and logic altogether.

 

[bssunilreddy]

People with no mind can't digest a single thing. Questions that i would ask people who think reservation is right and should be given even in private sector.

1. Would you send your children in government school and prioritize to be teach by a reserved teacher?
2. Would you or family would get treated by a doctor that has come through Quota?
3. Would you hire a person with no skill that will addd no value to your company but get a free pay because?
4. Would you hire a person to build your home who not know anything about constructions, electrical wiring?

If you can't, don't cry when someone ask for the right thing for right job.

1. My daughter studied in such a central govt school where all kinds of teachers either reserved or unreserved worked from her LKG to now 10th. And I did not see any difference in her standards until now.
2. My cousin got treated by a reserved doctor and he is my father's good friend.
3. In Infosys during 2011-13 when my wife was working with her team there used to be a man named Shiva who used to take leaves frequently saying his paternal and maternal grand mom got injured or paternal and maternal grand father got injured and never took active role in the team. If you think he is useless then it should not be based on quota but by his intellect.
4. Same here Any man who does not have skills to do any profession cannot survive much longer without leaning anything and by giving stupid excuses right?

So don't base your opinions on caste or creed but by their intellectual capacity.

There was a chief scientist in Dupont labs in Pune where his team invented the strongest material based on spiders web pattern and is called Kevlar nowadays.

Do you know which caste is this scientist from?
Go and search once.

 

[alekhkhanna]

You want merit to be the only measure of talent, then everyone in this country should be given equal treatment, opportunities & education from the birth. Then we can compare scores & numbers. Not everyone starts at the same place. I get your point, but its not simple black & white approach.

Yes - let the government spend actual resources responsibly to get people out of poverty and give an equal competing chance.
Putting quotas and allowing undeserving people to run the country is the reason we are in a shit show. An undeserving architect can cause millions to die, an undeserving doctor can kill thousands due to his actions (most close friends are doctors, and the stories we know are horrific).
Quota system needs to die - of course it won't as it's MASSIVE vote bank politics. When someone with AIR 1 cannot get into AIIMS, you know there's something absolutely fundamentally wrong in the system.

 

[Darth Vader]

Where ever the need arises we used our connections to rise up either in private or govt sector based on caste, creed, region and religion. Then what is the use of this caste census now I don't understand? Just to create more differences among ourselves that's all.

I ask the same Question, What is the use of caste now ? Why people are clinging to it and complain about reservation at the same time ? Because reservation is the inconvenience not the caste for them, which in its a privilege. And the guy i was replying to is very nasty coz he lost his cool. Do you agree with his statements about coming from decent family ? Didnt education teach them " All are equal" ?People openly mocking religion in another thread & one guy dehumanizing one specific caste here before ? Since when TE got this trashy?

Yes - let the government spend actual resources responsibly to get people out of poverty and give an equal competing chance.

So they stay in the same caste then ?

Putting quotas and allowing undeserving people to run the country is the reason we are in a shit show. An undeserving architect can cause millions to die, an undeserving doctor can kill thousands due to his actions (most close friends are doctors, and the stories we know are horrific).

After we eradicate caste system and treat everyone equal, give everyone the same quality education, we can talk about who deserves what based on the scores & other criteria. Until then, we cant define deserving candidates in exact terms.

Quota system needs to die - of course it won't as it's MASSIVE vote bank politics. When someone with AIR 1 cannot get into AIIMS, you know there's something absolutely fundamentally wrong in the system.

Agreed, we need equality & merit all across the system with the right mature approach we will get there.

 

[Pyception]

Reservation is SCAM now.
We can debate and agree to disagree, but I will stand against it until death.

 

[psyph3r]

There was a chief scientist in Dupont labs in Pune where his team invented the strongest material based on spiders web pattern and is called Kevlar nowadays.

Do you know which caste is this scientist from?
Go and search once.

Stephanie Kwolek - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[rocking]

Go and search once.

i am well aware with things and how it works. education and skillset are two different things. people with skills can outrank a highly educated person. I am saying for people who scored Zero and now teaching in schools even when can't even write name properly.

You can pretend that your children had no negative effect being in a school with reserved teacher. Ask your daughter, if she scored 90% and her friend scored 10%, who will get a job.

there is nothing to be cool or proud about. i am also from a poor family, i used to work in a "Gumati" and managed to get in a cheapest private school. i always wanted to get in big school but failed because of the high fee. my government teacher used to say my parents to move me out from government school from village and put in private school. it was later but i managed to get in one. it was my hard work, my skill. i never availed a single government scheme. when they used to give 10-20kg wheat, rice in school, i was also eligible but never took it.

 

[alekhkhanna]

After we eradicate caste system and treat everyone equal, give everyone the same quality education, we can talk about who deserves what based on the scores & other criteria. Until then, we cant define deserving candidates in exact terms.

Government cannot remove caste system (in grained for centuries - tied to religion too), but it can remove reservations.
Merit shouldn't be tied to caste, that's why real money with real intent with real responsibilities needs to be spent on backward sections of the society. The current formula is just making the society absolutely stupid and incompetent.
We now have quotas in intelligence services. Wrecked country.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1918911798717108682

 

[rocking]

Caste is a personal thing in a society, Reservation is a Government thing. Caste exists because of the reservation they need to avail. Government can't stop asking for caste and then again complain about it. The Indian governance is build this way that has nothing better to offer but easily worst to make.

 

[murdock]

Most of the SC ST People I've experienced in Real Life are very financial Settled and have Government Jobs.
The other people's views on these ST SC are quite negative like I've been advised by many people to not get into quarrel with any of ST SC caste people because even though they're at fault we'll be screwed since they have law privilege on their side. I'm against caste based discrimination but you know the society has left a bad taste in my mouth I thought we Indian takes things for granted and get entitled and arrogant with powers we've acquired.
In Govt sector Jobs for them is a cake walk I've already talked to people from ST category they said the competition in Govt jobs isn't against ST vs other but infact it's against themselves ST SC vs ST SC , other caste like OBC have no chance it was quite funny hearing this.
So, Reservations in Private Sector tooo? I'm very worried