Car & Bike Which bike to get for a first timer?

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agantuk said:
You have obviously not gone for a mileage test for a bike ever and that's why you find this odd. Mileage tests are not done with full tanks or 1 liter petrol. The have a temporary set up using 100 ml where they first switch off the supply, drain whatever is in the pipe and engine, and then connect the temporary set up and run it till the time this 100 ml finishes. Odometer readings are obviously taken at the beginning and the end. The difference is multiplied by 10, to give the per liter mileage.

Regarding the testing part, most companies provide mileage 'under test conditions'. Which means they drive bent down, on smooth roads, very little turns, no traffic, and of course no signals. Any bike would give great figures under such conditions. Honda's numbers for the Unicorn on the other hand are under moderate city traffic conditions, with signals, and uneven roads thrown in. There is a huge difference in the two conditions.
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They must have really fooled you... I would advice you to fully empty your tank and add 1 liter petrol reset the odometer to 0 KM and ride your bike until the bike fully gives up and then come back and argue with me...
 
^ Thanks for your advice, but you obviously have not read what I mentioned towards the latter part of my post about getting a 60 kmpl mileage

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Also, for bikes, the mileage is usually tested from reserve to reserve. Fuller tanks and better tyre pressure give better mileage. Emptying the tank and running with just a 1 liter would not give even 45.
 
agantuk said:
^ Thanks for your advice, but you obviously have not read what I mentioned towards the latter part of my post about getting a 60 kmpl mileage
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I've read your post fully... Do what i've suggested you and then we will talk... in that way you would get precise numbers... :) I have done this test many times and i've hardly got above 45KMPL... Make sure there is not even a single drop of petrol before doing this test...

Also, for bikes, the mileage is usually tested from reserve to reserve. Fuller tanks and better tyre pressure give better mileage. Emptying the tank and running with just a 1 liter would not give even 45.
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See you finally admitted it... The procedure that i've suggested to test mileage is the most precise way to test mileage... If you would test mileage in reserve to reserve manner then you would never ever get precise numbers in your entire life...
 
okay guys,lets not argue about the mileage stuff...let's keep this thread dedicated to the one who started it and help him out....

btw reserve to reserve is always better,n if u try to just fill exactly 1 liter(makin sure not even a single drop remains in the tank)that'd be the most accurate,now let's not talk abt mileage testing thingy anymore!
 
don't worry about that,once you get you bike...you will know everything!

and next time such thread opens up,you can argue to your hearts content!
 
@Hades: Actually, when you perform your version of the test, the bike never actually runs completely dry. Even when the bike runs completely out of steam there is some unusable amounts of petrol left in the tank (think uncles who tilt their Bajaj scooters to one side before attempting to start the bike). For this reason it appears to give you a lower mileage as you haven't actually used the entire liter of fuel.
 
@Hades: Actually, when you perform your version of the test, the bike never actually runs completely dry. Even when the bike runs completely out of steam there is some unusable amounts of petrol left in the tank (think uncles who tilt their Bajaj scooters to one side before attempting to start the bike). For this reason it appears to give you a lower mileage as you haven't actually used the entire liter of fuel.
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True... But after servicing i usually do the test that i have mentioned above... I ride my bike until the bike fully runs out of gas... and when the bike gives up i tilt the bike like uncles :P to utilize even the 10 to 20ml which usually gets left because of the structure of the tank...

Most people usually perform the test after keeping <= three litres in reserve mode and then they add one litre to ride the bike in "On" mode... Companies really dont make two different partitions in the tank for on mode and reserve mode... If you would see the tank looks somewhat like this

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One side is for Reserve mode and one side is for On mode... one can even bring the on mode petrol in the reserve mode by simply tilting or shaking the bike... So thats why most mechanics suggest to test the mileage after emptying the tank and adding just 1 litre of petrol...
 
I ride for 30 Kms daily (home - office - home) and own a Honda Unicorn. I get 40-45 kmpl mileage under the conditions that i ride which include bad to worse to worst roads in Pune (Aundh to Hinjewadi), bit less air in back tyre for better grip (i think), 2-3 signals in between and super slow moving traffic for a 1-2 kilometer section.
I have been checking my mileage using reserve to reserve method and each time i fill petrol of Rs 500 (get something like 8.2 liters) and then do some calculation (which are obviously approximate)
 
raksrules said:
I ride for 30 Kms daily (home - office - home) and own a Honda Unicorn. I get 40-45 kmpl mileage under the conditions that i ride which include bad to worse to worst roads in Pune (Aundh to Hinjewadi), bit less air in back tyre for better grip (i think), 2-3 signals in between and super slow moving traffic for a 1-2 kilometer section.
I have been checking my mileage using reserve to reserve method and each time i fill petrol of Rs 500 (get something like 8.2 liters) and then do some calculation (which are obviously approximate)
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Been there for 2 years, done that, hated that, and thank God don't have to do that anymore :bleh:
I get 45-50 kmpl. Depends on how I drive... Mostly I drive in uncle mode (sorry cannot do anything abt it) according to other TE members.
BTW I have a Honda Unicorn (2006)...
 
I had somewhat similar requirements and ended up getting the gs150r(~10k more than your budget, 150cc, a bit heavy) as the unicorn cb wasn't avaiable but after a few months of use I'm perfectly happy with it. Mileage is somewhere in the 50-55kmpl(2100kms in 39litres) range in conditions similar to what raksrules mentioned.
 
^^^don't get to see the gs150r much on the roads here in kolkata...

the bike did get good reviews but i think i have heard/read somewhere that they don't have a service center in kolkata!!!

even if they did open one here,i am sure the A.S.S. sucks which is the reason i don't get to see much of the suzuki bikes anywhere around nor anyone ever talks about it in kolkata...so that cannot be considered as an option!
 
demonic said:
^^^don't get to see the gs150r much on the roads here in kolkata...

the bike did get good reviews but i think i have heard/read somewhere that they don't have a service center in kolkata!!!

even if they did open one here,i am sure the A.S.S. sucks which is the reason i don't get to see much of the suzuki bikes anywhere around nor anyone ever talks about it in kolkata...so that cannot be considered as an option!
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chiron said:
I had somewhat similar requirements and ended up getting the gs150r(~10k more than your budget, 150cc, a bit heavy) as the unicorn cb wasn't avaiable but after a few months of use I'm perfectly happy with it. Mileage is somewhere in the 50-55kmpl(2100kms in 39litres) range in conditions similar to what raksrules mentioned.
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I do agree the the GS150R is rarely seen on road and yes their A.S.S sucks to the core. But i too love this bike. I actually own a suzuki GS150R which is in Mumbai and riding it is complete joy. Very much satisfied with the bike. The sixth gear provides really comfortable ride at higher speeds. The additional gear is not meant to get more speed but for better comfort or something like that :S
 
raksrules said:
I do agree the the GS150R is rarely seen on road and yes their A.S.S sucks to the core. But i too love this bike. I actually own a suzuki GS150R which is in Mumbai and riding it is complete joy. Very much satisfied with the bike. The sixth gear provides really comfortable ride at higher speeds. The additional gear is not meant to get more speed but for better comfort or something like that :S
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That is for Cruising usually found on the 250cc+ sports and cruisers. Helps you to ride at constant high speed for long travels:)
 
Well just get the hero-honda splendor, its gem for first timers.

Use the money saved on petrol and girl-friend (if u dont have one will surely be able to get one) :bleh:
 
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