PC Peripherals which one b/w hp 2050 v/s canon mp287 v/s epson tx121

[ssdivisiongermany1933]

I have sorted three Low end MFD Hp 2050 , canon Mp287 and Epson TX121 , Iam confused between the three since there is not much difference but which is more reliable and economical in long run ..and in which I can use the CISS kit later ???

Advice would be surely very much helpful

 

[laxmi24]

I can only say about Hp 2050. it is reliable to me. I do not use CISS system but i use to refill the cartridge. but there is a trick. If you use the driver pack supply by the hp you may not be use the refill of CISS system. because the the driver not only use to help printing but it counting the number of page you print with the cartridge. And when the software think the quota is finish then the software destroy the cartridge (that mean if the cartridge is just refill but you can not able to take any print with the cartridge, because the driver does not sent any instruction to print to that cartridge). i lost 2 cartridge. then i got the trick.

I use to buy bottle of ink which cost Rs. 50 to 75 per bottle and it give me more than 25 refill. that mean it cost me Rs. 2 to 3 per refill and it give me more than 55 black & white print per refill. then just take a calculator and calculate my cost of per par page print.

 

[ALPHA17]

And in which I can use the CISS kit later ???

If you wish to use CISS, I recommend that you go for the Canon OR Epson printer because they are easier to configure with CISS kits, which is not the case with the HP printers.

Hope this eases your decision, Sire. Cheers!!

 

[horizonrays]

If you wish to use CISS, I recommend that you go for the Canon OR Epson printer because they are easier to configure with CISS kits, which is not the case with the HP printers.

Hope this eases your decision, Sire. Cheers!!

hp's printer cartridge costs less than canon's cartridge .

by the sir would you mind to tell me which canon's is ciss friendly ? let me know.

i have had worst experience with epson do not go with tx121 worst printer you will buy . this printer drinks the ink like water , rejects cartridge even if they are new .:boxed::boxed:

 

[ALPHA17]

HP printer cartridge costs less than canon's cartridge .

by the sir would you mind to tell me which canon's is ciss friendly ? let me know.

Might be the case might not be the case. Personally I have never owned any other printer other than HP, have used the Pixma series printers from Canon and they are also pretty good. Never used Epson printers.

Now the issue of cartridges being expensive is because HP follows the old school layout of two cartridges per printer -->
1 xBlack
1 xCMY

So if you will print more colour heavy pages you will drain the CMYK tank faster than the Black one. For the other competing printers from Canon / Epson / Brother the cartridge layout --

1 xBlack
1 xCyan
1 xMagenta
1 xYellow

This means although you need to change only a single tank depending on its level [exhausted from prints], you end up shelling slightly more than HP's two cartridge layout. This difference in cartridge layout is what also makes these printers more acceptable for a CISS kit. The fact being that a CISS comes with individual tanks of refillable CMYK tank chambers, so attaching these individual tanks to the print head(s) / contact(s) of the Canon / Epson / Brother offerings is less cumbersome vis-a-vis fitting these 4 tanks to HP's 2 print head(s) / contact(s).

More on CISS --> CISS – Continuous Ink Supply System — Purchase Ink Tanks, Printers and CISS in India / Continuous ink system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia / Inkjet Printer Forum / Ink Jet Refill Forum / HP CIS problems - need fix, or new printers / CISS for Epson, Canon, and HP: Printers for Desktop Publishing Business Experiences.

Due to unavailability of the HP Cartridge to attach with CISS, I used to print the desktop publishing files using genuine ink cartridges, but it’s too expensive. The Black Ink is a waterproof except for the three colors cyan, magenta and yellow.
HP Printers are much more faster printing compare to Canon.
HP Printers when not operational for more than 8 months still no problem, you can print anytime without clogging the printer head… same also with Canon. Unlike Epson when not in use for more than 1 week, it’s printer head is clogged by ink and printer head cleaning is required.
There is new version of HP Printers that the cost of ink is cheap and that is “Ink Advantage” labeled HP Printers.
HP Printers will last for more than 5 years of operational if no CISS attach to it, and I never encounter any print head cleaning, thus, minimizing the possibilities of paper spoilage.
But when it comes to graphics, HP is the best…. But printing with small graphics and ID pictures, I cannot recommend HP because there is a slight dotted onto the picture’s human skin, same also with Canon.​

Hope this clarifies the topic. Cheerio!!

 

[ssdivisiongermany1933]

Thanks for the suggestion ...alpha ,horizon and laxmi

 

[Jarod]

The fact being that a CISS comes with individual tanks of refillable CMYK tank chambers, so attaching these individual tanks to the print head(s) / contact(s) of the Canon / Epson / Brother offerings is less cumbersome vis-a-vis fitting these 4 tanks to HP's 2 print head(s) / contact(s).

Dont generalise by brands but instead use models.
The Canon MP287 uses 2 tanks of black + colour.. not individual colour tanks.
And HP also has models that use individual colour tanks.. some with upto 5 colour tanks.
Both canon and hp reserve individual tanks for more costly models.
In the list of models by ssdivision, only the Epson TX121 uses individual tanks.

You might want to cross check your post before copying everything from google.
For example-
"I cannot recommend HP because there is a slight dotted onto the picture’s human skin, same also with Canon."
All inkjet printers print different coloured dots aka dithering to produce a perceived colour since they cannot mix. If you want smooth uniform colour you need dye printing.

 

[ALPHA17]

Dont generalise by brands but instead use models.
The Canon MP287 uses 2 tanks of black + colour.. not individual colour tanks.
And HP also has models that use individual colour tanks.. some with upto 5 colour tanks.
Both canon and hp reserve individual tanks for more costly models.

Depends again, most Canon Pixma line-up of printers which are in mass circulation come with the individual tank arrangement prevalent.

Very rare HP models come with the individual tank arrangement, most all in ones and mid-range models stick to the older 2 tank system. It is only on the top end and professional models that I see a glut in HP pushing for the individual tank approach.

Okay I agree that I copy paste datum from a google search. But there is a reason behind this, most people who post a query here expect everything to be handed over on a platter and do not bother using google search personally. I will take a more proactive and tailored approach for responses from now on. Cheerio!!

 

[Jarod]

most Canon Pixma line-up of printers which are in mass circulation come with the individual tank arrangement prevalent.
It is only on the top end and professional models that I see a glut in HP pushing for the individual tank approach.

It isn't about tailoring responses, its about whats correct.
MFPs with Individual colour ink cartridge price matchup.. (from flipkart)
Canon - MG5370 - Rs. 10800
HP - B110a - Rs. 7400
Looks like you have it the other way round!

 

[ALPHA17]

It isn't about tailoring responses, its about whats correct.

Individual ink cartridge price matchup..
Canon - MG5370 - Rs. 10800 - Flipkart: Canon Pixma - MG5370 Printer: Printer
HP - B110a - Rs. 7400 - Flipkart: HP Photosmart Wireless E-All-in-One - B110a Printer: Printer
Looks like you have it the other way round!

Why do I keep getting this --
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when I click on those links?

Look I use this printer, I had the HP Deskjet 3320 earlier and they both follow the twin-tank approach.

Here is a jamboree of Canon printers between ~3500/- -->7000/- and they all have their own set of ink tanks, one uses the twin-tank approach, another has the quad-tank approach and another is using Dye ink. You do realize all of these are for different audiences.

 

[Jarod]

Sire, why are we being befuddled with twin tank, quad tank and now suddenly dye ink?
The MX416 specs are obviously wrong, it does not use individual colour tanks. You are free to check on the official canon site >> PIXMA MX416 - Canon Singapore - Business
To get you back on the same page.... we are discussing only CISS.
CISS needs individual colour tanks as you said.
We are just comparing individual colour tank MFP options from competing manufacturers.
You said HP only has 2 tank solutions .. Incorrect.
You said HP only has 4 tank solutions in top end models, while most of canon's pixma mainstream models have 4 tanks .. Apparently not, with the HP surprisingly being cheaper.
Anyway we have taken this thread far off topic only to help clarify your doubts. Take your time and do a careful analysis of data. Cheerios!