Car & Bike Which technology comes handy on a steep slope?

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Yesterday had a confusing discussion with some friends so want to know which technology is effective when we climb ghat sections/ steep slope esp. during heavy traffic jams?

Is it:
ABS Anti-Lock braking System system/anti-lock brake-force system or
EBD Electronic brake- force distribution system

Also which vehicle tackles such conditions better:
2WD 2 wheel drive
4WD 4 front ---||---
FWD front ---||---
AWD All ---||---

I havent driven any car out of city limits having abs or ebd so not sure.
 
nRiTeCh said:
Yesterday had a confusing discussion with some friends so want to know which technology is effective when we climb ghat sections/ steep slope esp. during heavy traffic jams?

Is it:
ABS Anti-Lock braking System system/anti-lock brake-force system or
EBD Electronic brake- force distribution system

Also which vehicle tackles such conditions better:
2WD 2 wheel drive
4WD 4 front ---||---
FWD front ---||---
AWD All ---||---

I havent driven any car out of city limits having abs or ebd so not sure.
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Automatic transmission (hydraulic or CVT, but not DSG)!
There is nothing else better than it to tackle the stop and go traffic on a uphill slope.

ABS and EBD are required mostly on high speed braking - which will never happen in stop and go.

4WD/AWD is required only when the tyres lose traction (mud/slush/sand). You will never encounter traffic jams on such roads!
 
nRiTeCh said:
Yesterday had a confusing discussion with some friends so want to know which technology is effective when we climb ghat sections/ steep slope esp. during heavy traffic jams?

Is it:
ABS Anti-Lock braking System system/anti-lock brake-force system or
EBD Electronic brake- force distribution system

Also which vehicle tackles such conditions better:
2WD 2 wheel drive
4WD 4 front ---||---
FWD front ---||---
AWD All ---||---

I havent driven any car out of city limits having abs or ebd so not sure.
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None of these matter. AT ALL!

However if you are talking of fun to drive, then it will always be Rear Wheel Drive.

 
Hill descent control is not of any use on regular steep inclines on a road..
ABS and EBD/DSC/DTC have no bearing on it either
I presume what you are looking for is what would help you overcome the backward gravitation force while in stop-and-go traffic on an incline, its either AT or a the manual method of using the parking brake while releasing clutch
 
So basically what we are following since ages--half clutch, only comes handy on such slopes. So no practical usage of abs or ebd then.

But I raised this query upon some practical observation while traveling....:jimlad:

During traffic jams on mountains, ghats or flyovers, the latest vehicles having these common abs/ebd, these cars/suvs/muvs wont come/slip backward but instead smoothly climb the slope and move forwards with utmost buttery ease. Their drivers make it look so easy!!:confused:

But the old vehicles like zen, alto, palio, old accent, old honda city, old corolla etc etc.. they mostly first come/slip backwards.
In short you have to be very alert or struggle a bit using any old vehicles to control car on such sloppy surface to gain control and help move the vehicle forward or upwards.:banghead:
I have seen their drivers struggling and the vehicle behind keeps honking so as to alert the driver to apply brakes and instead try to move forward. :nailbiting:

In fact once a driver only keeps driving a bmw/audi/or any latest suvs etc. for a longer time, they too tend to struggle with old vehicles.:coldfeet:

I too have an old city but on rare occasions my car behaves abruptly.
 
superczar said:
Hill descent control is not of any use on regular steep inclines on a road..
ABS and EBD/DSC/DTC have no bearing on it either
I presume what you are looking for is what would help you overcome the backward gravitation force while in stop-and-go traffic on an incline, its either AT or a the manual method of using the parking brake while releasing clutch
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Hill descent control nahi mere bhai, Hill ascent control. Upar youtube videos toh dekh le.
 
nRiTeCh said:
So basically what we are following since ages--half clutch, only comes handy on such slopes. So no practical usage of abs or ebd then.

But I raised this query upon some practical observation while traveling....:jimlad:

During traffic jams on mountains, ghats or flyovers, the latest vehicles having these common abs/ebd, these cars/suvs/muvs wont come/slip backward but instead smoothly climb the slope and move forwards with utmost buttery ease. Their drivers make it look so easy!!:confused:

But the old vehicles like zen, alto, palio, old accent, old honda city, old corolla etc etc.. they mostly first come/slip backwards.
In short you have to be very alert or struggle a bit using any old vehicles to control car on such sloppy surface to gain control and help move the vehicle forward or upwards.:banghead:
I have seen their drivers struggling and the vehicle behind keeps honking so as to alert the driver to apply brakes and instead try to move forward. :nailbiting:

In fact once a driver only keeps driving a bmw/audi/or any latest suvs etc. for a longer time, they too tend to struggle with old vehicles.:coldfeet:

I too have an old city but on rare occasions my car behaves abruptly.
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No such issue with my Palio. I engage the hand-brake, put the car in first gear and keep releasing clutch till I feel the car trying to move forward. At this point I disengage the hand-brake and the car rolls forward effortlessly.
In the cases you have mentioned, it is more the ineptness of the driver that causes the car to roll backwards than the age/era of the car.
 
AMG said:
Hill descent control nahi mere bhai, Hill ascent control. Upar youtube videos toh dekh le.
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Both HDC and HAC are meant for extremely steep gradients
For ascent during non off roading usage (The OP specifically refers to that), plain old AT or parking brake/clutch slip method would be the answer
Trust me,I have over 250K kms clocked across 4 continents in all sorts of vehicles and terrains :)

nRiTeCh said:
In fact once a driver only keeps driving a bmw/audi/or any latest suvs etc. for a longer time, they too tend to struggle with old vehicles.:coldfeet:
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Not really, driving skills are like swimming, regardless of your current ride, if you know the basics, they'll come rushing back when you need them
The only difference being that in a reasonably powerful car with AT, the constant forward torque (which you control with the footbrake to keep vehicle from moving forward when at a stop) even without any throttle will prevent the vehicle from moving backward
You can however simulate the same by stopping rear roll with your parking brake and gently releasing it when while engaging the transmission in 1st gear (i.e. release parking brake while releasing clutch)
 
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The most important of all is to have a slip differential and traction control system.
 
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