Yeah, i have seen it work very well and also seen a horrible blurry messed up version in two different games. Resolution was not 4k. And yes FSR is much worse esp at lower quality where its just plain unusable. DLDSR is also a good option in some cases - worked very nice with GTA5 which has horrible AA.
Ray tracing do not look good in all games but people like it
Yeah, but IQ vs frame impact is pretty bad so far from what i have seen. Reflections are the most obvious improvements and it might be game dependent on whether its worth it. Other stuff, so far perhaps you need a keen eye for details for difference to matter. That said, once you don't have enough VRAM, DLSS3/RT/Textures will be compromised and one will have to reduce settings. Perhaps today its ok similar to high vs ultra, but in future its always a risk. I have seen that in an extreme way in 1050 2gb vs 4gb. Obviously that was lower end, but 4gb lasted much better vs my 2gb.
Where are the AMD cards from good brands? No, I am not going to buy Sapphire or ASROCK just because of VRAM. It is because of pricing, availability and after sales support why people are buying Nvidia. People prefer Zotac, Gigabyte/ASUS /MSI because the cards are better built and customer support is better. That's it.
yeah, you know best here.
5y warranty was a major consideration for me too. That said we have gigabyte and Asus for AMD too, only question is to get it at good price and should be available. gigabyte + 4y warranty would be something i would hope for whenever i purchase next, if i go AMD ( probably will ). No idea about ASROCK and sapphire situation might improve going forward, lets see. People in US have high praise for Sapphire, so build quality is probably good generally - only warranty stuff has to be fixed.
But again, buying an expensive VRAM limited card is probably just as much of an issue, atleast for me. I would probably downgrade and buy cheaper AMD gpus (say 6700xt-6800xt today) + 3y warranty + upgrade more often rather than buy expensive knowing it has compromised hardware for god knows why.
It is not 'lowered settings', it is optimized settings with zero or negligible loss in visual quality. Also, 80k GPU cannot do 4k ultra, not even a 4090 can do that in all games.
Its 'optimized' today and in future you will have more and more cases where its degraded rather than optimized. Also what someone wants can be different, maybe 50-60FPS is enough for someone. In VRAM limited scenarios, AMD gpus will hold much better vs Nvidia. We can see that already happening for 8gb vs 12gb cards even at lower resolutions. Perhaps faster texture streaming through Direct storage might mitigate - who knows.
Anyway, lets agree to disagree - I dont see why i should accept limited VRAM
at these price points and i think many feel like me as well. I wont spend that much money on a new gpu while risking future issues and certainly wont accept Nvidia pricing nonsense for 4000 series. Dont really mind being few years behind either in terms of games so that also reduces need. So atleast demand from me will reduce and i will just downgrade to cheaper/used gpus.
Another important point is, If the game is not pushing cutting edge visuals then what is the compulsion to max it out ?
I am playing crysis 2007 these days and it still looks better than 90% of the games of today. It runs on 3 GB VRAM, it has vast open levels which needs a lot of time to cover on foot. It has destructive environment too.
Crysis looks photorealistic at very high (Ultra) settings and turns to stylized kind of look towards medium.
Crysis is the kind of game where you want to do ultra, because you are getting photo realism. What is the point of doing Ultra in modern games? Most Modern games look exactly the same at High and Ultra, sometimes even medium is shockingly close to Ultra.
I agree man, this applies to games today. Future requirement can change, 10-12gb is at limit today and ideally is suited for cards below 40k - not 80k ( my opinion ).
Anyway, with same logic, i dont really need a 60-80k gpu at 1440p for that. I can make do with a 6700xt or so, it has enough VRAM for its performance and should give 70-75% of performance for much lower price and without having to accept any bs from nvidia.
