Windows 7, to Upgrade or Not

H2O

H2O

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I am planning to install Windows 7 since, Just Cause 2 does not support Windows XP and it seems its a good time to upgrade.

Anyways my components are, AMD Athlon 2 240 + Kingston 2GB DDR2 800 + 500GB Seagate HDD + HD 4650.

If I upgrade to the Home Premium Version of Windows 7 will I be noticing any performance loss in any of my present games and normal desktop work.

Also the only reason why I have not shifted to Windows 7 is that my ISP makes me use 24 Online Client to use the internet can you tell me if there is a Windows 7 version or another alternative ?
 
^^you may notice very very slight fps drop, maybe 1 or 2 fps but everything else will be faster like copy/paste, multitasking etc. It's a terrific OS and worth upgrading. never heard of 24 Online Client. You can anyways give it a try and there is compatibility mode to make it work.
 
You should contact your ISP support and see if they support win 7. Else you may be stuck.

Why don't you dual boot. It's as easy as abc... That way you lose nothing. You've got a pretty big HDD (unless of course):hap2:
 
the 24 online client is available for windows vista i used it once. i am sure it will work for windows 7.
 
You can try running 24 Online Client in Compatibility Mode if it doesn't run normally. As sunny27 said it runs fine on Vista then it should run fine too in windows 7. I think your ISP is Alliance Broadband.
 
krishnandu said:
You can try running 24 Online Client in Compatibility Mode if it doesn't run normally. As sunny27 said it runs fine on Vista then it should run fine too in windows 7. I think your ISP is Alliance Broadband.
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Yes it is Alliance Broadband.

I will not be double booting because I like keeping all my files in one place.

Also, What should the size of my C drive be it will contain only essentials. I am think about 45GB.
 
@H2O As desiibond said, apart from the minor FPS drops in games, you won't notice any performance issues. In fact, you will notice better performance in some areas, not to mention the beautiful UI. So, yes. Go for it.

As for the 24 Online Client, if it is compatible with Vista then it should work on Windows 7 without a hitch. All the best with the OS switch!
 
^^Define essentials? do you install and copy everything to C:??

for optimum performance, keeping c: at 20gig and installing programs on other drive helps
 
24client should work since Windows7 is based on the same kernel as Win Vista to avoid people from facing major software compatibility issues. I'd say you're really missing out on something good if you're not on 7, you'll love the new interface and features, its a great OS.
 
For Essentials 25GB should be sufficient, optimal would be 30GB.

As you install more and more programs, Windows folder would grow to 10GB due to SxS. Also, 2GB for page file, 2GB for hiberfil, +10GB(max estimate) for Prog files and 5GB day-to-day buffer.
 
H2O said:
I am planning to install Windows 7 since, Just Cause 2 does not support Windows XP and it seems its a good time to upgrade.
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Installed Windows 7 today for the same reason (To play Just Cause 2 which I had pre-ordered :P). However I still have Win XP around. I had WinXP and Vista in dual boot. Installed Win 7 over the Vista partition.

It looks to a pretty good improvement over Vista. Also I am not sure why, but in Bad Company 2, I am getting more FPS under Win 7 in DX10.1 with 2x AA compared to what I was getting under Win XP without AA.
 
Just check the compatibility of programs you consider essential with win 7 before you take the plunge, cos though the response above has been +ve overall, the OS does have its quirks.

For instance, I've had to give up on Nero Express 6 because it won't run on win 7. The OS pretended to look for a solution, but came up with nothing. [through a Pop-up]. Right-clicking n running in compatibility mode didn't help. The only option left probably is to try XP mode which is a separate download of 500mb, provided you have a win 7 version higher than home premium. [?]

Also, you might find UAC annoying. A dialog pops-up when certain programs are run. While it can be disabled, win 7 would lose a feature which makes it more secure than the previous versions.

Another strange thing occurs when I launch a movie in MPC Home Cinema. I get a dialog- 'No d3dx9 dll found. To enable stats, shaders n resizers, please install latest directx.' I have direct x 11 installed according to dxdiag.

Don't know what is to blame or at fault, but the point simply is that IMHO there are going to be quirks which will need to be ironed out. Just thought that I should get this out there because some of the responses above seem to suggest that you go for it with your eyes closed. I really don't believe so. The only reason I'm on 7 is that my laptop has major issues with XP due to lack of drivers. On my desktop, I still got good ol' XP.

If it ain't broken, why fix it.
 
@kidrow: install dx9 and your problem will be gone. few games and codecs still depends on dx9. Try installing last released verion.

Roxio works like a charm.

and a more stable service pack is on the way...
 
kidrow said:
Just check the compatibility of programs you consider essential with win 7 before you take the plunge, cos though the response above has been +ve overall, the OS does have its quirks.

For instance, I've had to give up on Nero Express 6 because it won't run on win 7. The OS pretended to look for a solution, but came up with nothing. [through a Pop-up]. Right-clicking n running in compatibility mode didn't help. The only option left probably is to try XP mode which is a separate download of 500mb, provided you have a win 7 version higher than home premium. [?]

Also, you might find UAC annoying. A dialog pops-up when certain programs are run. While it can be disabled, win 7 would lose a feature which makes it more secure than the previous versions.

Another strange thing occurs when I launch a movie in MPC Home Cinema. I get a dialog- 'No d3dx9 dll found. To enable stats, shaders n resizers, please install latest directx.' I have direct x 11 installed according to dxdiag.
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1. The level of intrusion of UAC can be easily adjusted, UAC only comes into action when an administrative task needs to take place or a program tries to do the same. I think its one of the best levels of protection. And its really not that bugging at all, only while installing programs for the first time will you find UAC dialog boxes popping up or trying to alter your C:, I think its a big security upgrade from the earlier versions.

2. Nero 6 was a great software indeed, but given its age, it needs to be retired. If you're not comfortable using the newer bloated versions of Nero, I'd suggest you check out Ashampoo or use Nero Lite like many other users. It works great and all the bloatware has been stripped off.

3. Download and install latest version of DirectX - DirectX

4. There are no quirks to be ironed out, when you're moving from an age old OS to a brand new one, there are bound to be adjustments that need to be made from your side, openness to new things and the motivation to learn and adapt, rather than complain why a software that was released in 2003 doesn't work on an OS that was released in 2009-10. It is not logical to complain why a software made for an OS 2 generations old does not work anymore, even though the good people have MS have done their bit and kept the kernel same as Vista, so we could run everything just the way we did before. Your best way to adapt to 7 is to explore around and see the goodness packed in it, and ofcourse if need be, take the help of the good people here.
 
sibot said:
4. There are no quirks to be ironed out, when you're moving from an age old OS to a brand new one, there are bound to be adjustments that need to be made from your side, openness to new things and the motivation to learn and adapt, rather than complain why a software that was released in 2003 doesn't work on an OS that was released in 2009-10. It is not logical to complain why a software made for an OS 2 generations old does not work anymore, even though the good people have MS have done their bit and kept the kernel same as Vista, so we could run everything just the way we did before. Your best way to adapt to 7 is to explore around and see the goodness packed in it, and ofcourse if need be, take the help of the good people here.
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I don't agree with that. There are always a few quirks to be ironed out regardless of the OS and who made it. ;)

As for the rest, Windows users are accustomed to the backward compatibility it offers. You can say that its one of its strengths. Most Mac users take it for granted when their apps stop working or require patches to work when ever Apple releases a new iteration of their OS (sometimes even with dot releases), But MS doesn't break their SDK's just for the heck of it and so users are accustomed to running apps that are 10 or 15 years old. A well written program that doesn't use custom code made around bad assumptions would still work even if its 10 years old. Software like Nero doesn't work because they use software components whose code is written around assumptions that are no longer valid or not supported for some reason. Other than that, I don't see a damned reason why a legacy software will not work on the latest version of Windows.
 
Hello H20,

Have you checked compatibility?
Just an FYI for you.

It is always best to check with the software manufacturer FIRST. They will tell you if they have tested the product and the version, as well as whether or not it will work with Windows 7.
Check out the Windows 7 Compatibility site: (There you will find out about hardware and software compatibility.)
Windows 7 Compatibility: Resources for PCs, Devices and Software Programs
There is a pulldown from which you can choose "hardware" and "software".

There are also some great articles, instructional videos and such to help with your Windows 7 at our Springboard site:
Windows Client | Deploy, Manage, Desktop, 7, Vista, XP | TechNet

In any event a lot of the times, Vista drivers will work in lieu of Windows 7 drivers, however, it's not 100%!

As stated previously, it's best to have the Windows 7 certified drivers installed.
Thanks again,
John M.
Microsoft Windows Client Support
 
kidrow said:
Just check the compatibility of programs you consider essential with win 7 before you take the plunge, cos though the response above has been +ve overall, the OS does have its quirks.

For instance, I've had to give up on Nero Express 6 because it won't run on win 7. The OS pretended to look for a solution, but came up with nothing. [through a Pop-up]. Right-clicking n running in compatibility mode didn't help. The only option left probably is to try XP mode which is a separate download of 500mb, provided you have a win 7 version higher than home premium. [?]

Also, you might find UAC annoying. A dialog pops-up when certain programs are run. While it can be disabled, win 7 would lose a feature which makes it more secure than the previous versions.

Another strange thing occurs when I launch a movie in MPC Home Cinema. I get a dialog- 'No d3dx9 dll found. To enable stats, shaders n resizers, please install latest directx.' I have direct x 11 installed according to dxdiag.

Don't know what is to blame or at fault, but the point simply is that IMHO there are going to be quirks which will need to be ironed out. Just thought that I should get this out there because some of the responses above seem to suggest that you go for it with your eyes closed. I really don't believe so. The only reason I'm on 7 is that my laptop has major issues with XP due to lack of drivers. On my desktop, I still got good ol' XP.

If it ain't broken, why fix it.
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For the issue with direct x9, download the standalone version of DirectX9 and install.. you'll not face the issue...

I am planning to install Windows 7 since, Just Cause 2 does not support Windows XP and it seems its a good time to upgrade.

Yes, it is.. Windows 7 has gone through the initial ragging and come out unscathed albeit a few minor scratches... It is a good OS and worth the upgrade...

Anyways my components are, AMD Athlon 2 240 + Kingston 2GB DDR2 800 + 500GB Seagate HDD + HD 4650.

If I upgrade to the Home Premium Version of Windows 7 will I be noticing any performance loss in any of my present games and normal desktop work.


There is bound to be performance loss though games might run better (stressing on might).. for the simple reason that XP came 10 years back and Windows 7 an year back, and there is a lot of difference between system requirements for both OS's... Windows 7 uses at least 700 MB of RAM on idle, without anything running so it'll be a good idea to also upgrade the RAM to 3 GB if you intend to game...

There are a lot of reviews (google is your friend) to tell you that Windows 7 is SLOWER than XP but FASTER than Windows Vista.. So anyone who says Windows 7 as an OS is faster than Windows XP :tongue::tongue::tongue:

Also the only reason why I have not shifted to Windows 7 is that my ISP makes me use 24 Online Client to use the internet can you tell me if there is a Windows 7 version or another alternative ?


Anything and everything that runs with Vista runs on Windows 7, that was Microsoft's basic approach so that they don't end up s******* up like they did with Windows Vista.. You mentioned that It does run with Vista, it'll run on Windows 7...

Windows 7 as Microsoft said "An incremental upgrade over Windows Vista" and my perspective, a sorted out Windows Vista... Something Windows Vista should have been at the first place...

Anyways jump on the Windows 7 bandwagon buddy... :clap::clap::clap:
 
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