Xbox 360 'Folding@home' project a possibility, says Moore!!!

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Microsoft games boss Peter Moore has indicated that the company would seriously consider running a research project similar to Sony's Folding@home initiative, on the Xbox 360.

The Folding@home project allows multiple, connected PlayStation 3's to calculate data to aid medical research for Stanford University.

Sony's assistance has been widely praised for bringing attention to such schemes, where idle home consoles are able to simulate the processing power of multiple PCs.

"If we truly believe that we can in some way marshal the resources of a much larger installed base of Xbox 360 owners, with a processor that's of equal power to the PS3, then you have my commitment that we'll look at that," commented Moore, corporate VP of interactive entertainment at Microsoft, to The Mercury News.

"And if we believe we can add value to solving a gnarly problem such as medical problems and the health problems that Folding@home seems to be doing, then we'll certainly look at that very strongly."

So far, over 250,000 registered PlayStation 3 users have signed for the Folding@home project, although Moore is still wary of the actual results

"I'm not quite sure yet whether we're seeing real tangible results from the PlayStation 3 Folding@home initiative. We continue to look at this and see whether there's real value," he added.
Source:GamesIndustry.biz

Wat abt Heating of 360 Mr.Moore...have u thought about that...what about "red ring of death" solve that problem...then solve the medical & health problems(Chk out the highlighted line above):@ :@ :@
 
lol. The reason why they've waited so long and even now only thinking about a project like that is because they'll have to replace a thunderstorm of RLOD X360's the first day after this project hits.
 
Yes. Let's focus on things that have nothing to do with gaming. What better way to show of a gaming console, right?
 
Look, its pretty obvious the X360 triple core can't do squat compared to the Cell with regards to the floating point computations required for F@H.

All said and done, that is nothing to do with consoleness in and of itself.
 
IN AN INTERVIEW with the San Jose Mercury News Peter Moore, corporate VP of Microsoft's entertainment business unit admitted that Microsoft was somewhat caught out by Sony's PS3 Folding@Home client. He said even Bill Gates had a conversation about "applying philanthropic processing power to big problems".

But he souldn't resist a jab at Sony's endeavour. "I’m not quite sure yet whether we’re seeing real tangible results from the PlayStation 3 Folding@Home initiative," he suggested.

Microsoft knows all the deficiencies of IBM's sluggish in-order triple-core PowerPC that is built inside its own console, and does not want to get soundly beaten by IBM's Cell. However, it is unclear whether the Vole of Redmond is aware that it has something far more powerful inside its own boxes.

The Geforce 7900 inside the PS3 is no match for Xenos in the Xbox. Even the Sony Cell would probably end beaten by 48 vec4+scalar units hidden inside Xbox's 360 graphics chip. Folding@Home is Stream Computing at its finest, and six/seven/eight SPE units can flourish in the CPU. But when compared to the GPU, the Xbox 360 GPU would probably run in circles around Cell CPU.

And then Microsoft's marketing machine might get interested in touting Folding@Home for the Xbox 360 console, since it would no longer be a race between a snail and a rabbit, as far as protein folding performance is concerned.

The next question would then be, could Brook get set up running on a Xbox 360 GPU with all the limitations that Microsoft environment is using?

Source: www.theinquirer.net

Wat is M$ upto??? They have to concentrate on Games only games...Dont concentrate on any other thing right now...360 is doing well...M$ just wanna milk more money from its console even if it has HARDWARE PROBLEMS!!!
 
MS made a console to do exactly what it's defined to do and it does it very well. Only Sony needs to hype stuff like "folding" to justify the unnecessary hardware.

M$ just wanna milk more money from its console even if it has HARDWARE PROBLEMS!!!

Where do you come up with stuff like this? Have they mentioned that they were going to charge people for this?
 
If cost were equal, and we assumed the games on both were equally good, as is the online service, then yes, I would say folding is a great thing.

Problem is, as of now PS3 is in the backseat. I don't fully understand why they are having such a hard time. You would think there are enough people to buy some of their stuff.
 
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I think a lot of people are waiting for the price drop. Haha, they'll have to wait a long time.

Price drops don't happen before some sort of "acceptable" sales :no:
 
Earlier this year, Sony and Stanford University teamed up to release a Folding @ Home client for the PS3. Part marketing, part philanthropy, they've managed to increase the overall processing power of the F@H project by three-fold. Xbox 360 fanboys have been clamoring for a F@H client for the Xbox 360, wanting to put it up against the PS3 in a fight to the death (of a disease, that is). In a recent interview with Dean Takahashi, Peter Moore stated that Microsoft has been exploring the idea, with encouragement from Bill Gates. Presumably Gates, being the philanthropist he is, would love the opportunity to leverage the worldwide base of 10M+ Xbox 360s and help solve some problem of a global scale. So why hasn't Microsoft rushed to bring a 360 client to the marketplace? Two words: fatal flaw.

The design and construction of the Xbox 360 CPU, GPU, and motherboard cause the board to warp under normal operation conditions. When the board warps, the critical solder joints between the CPU/GPU and the motherboard may fail, resulting in the infamous red ring of death. In a recent article, Llamma.com disected the Xbox 360 Elite, and discovered that Microsoft is now using epoxy to secure the CPU and GPU in an attempt to relieve stress on the chips' solder joints. In the interview above, Peter Moore refused to discuss the Xbox 360's failure rate (as have other Microsoft employees), choosing to focus on their customer service instead. Some estimates put the actual failure rate at 10% or higher. Whatever the percentage is, based on the volume of complaints on the Xbox.com forums, and the number of people I personally know who've had to send their consoles back (included myself), I think it's safe to assume the failure rate is well beyond the industry standard 3%.

What does that have to do with Folding @ Home? If Microsoft releases a F@H client for the 360, they could be facing a financial and public relations nightmare. The F@H client uses 100% of the CPU power, and if possible, 100% of the GPU power of the device while running. This generates tremendous amounts of heat, which places components under high stresses. It's a worst case scenario for hardware designers.

Given that a critical flaw in the Xbox 360's design has already been identified, a F@H client would only serve to magnify this flaw, and hundreds of thousands of Xbox 360 owners could be forced to return their consoles for repair. With customer dissatisfaction as high as it already is, this isn't a risk Microsoft can afford to take. Add this to the incredible cost to repair each console (which is already financially draining Microsoft's Home and Entertainment Division), and Folding @ Home is a lose-lose proposition for Microsoft. Don't expect to see it anytime soon, if ever.
By Jeremy Charette
Source: Digital Media Thoughts - Digital Media News & Views
 
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