Graphic Cards Sapphire HD 7870 Crashing after one minute Gameplay

Shaleen

Shaleen

Disciple
Hi !
So I Purchased this graphic card Last week
"Sapphire HD 7870 Ghz Edition"

The Display is fine The Computer Boots up just fine
But when i Start Any game ,after one minute Screen flickers and then Vertical lines all over screen and then GPU Crashes with Black or White screen
Then I have to reset the Computer

I have Uploaded a video Showing the crash after one minute in SAINTS ROW Please see
HD 7870 crashing after one minute game play - YouTube


I have Exhausted all my options
I have ,
-Uninstalled and reinstalled latest catalyst drivers {13.1}
-Replugged GPU in socket
-Disabled HDMI audio
-Underclocked
-Increased Idle Clock
Teperature Never goes beyond 70 C

My SKU is 11199-00-41G

Is this possible that I Got a Defected GPU?
Should I Give this For RMA because I have Aditya infotech office In my city


My RIG is

i5-3450
Gigabyte B75-D3H
Corsair XMS3 RAM
WD Barracuda 500GB
Cooler Master Thunder 600Watt

Please Help.. I Am So much Worried After Spending so much for Gaming PC I am not able to play more than one minute of any game! :unsure:
 
ALPHA17 said:
Not to sound like a jerk but that is one of the worst SMPS you could power up the RIG with.
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Yes, I know you suggeated seasonic 520, but i didn't have much funds left so went for cm 600, seasonic was not available in my city

So do you think this a PSU problem?
 
Shaleen said:
Yes, I know you suggeated seasonic 520, but i didn't have much funds left so went for cm 600, seasonic was not available in my city

So do you think this a PSU problem?
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For now get rid of the faulty graphic card but yes save up and get a Seasonic S12II SMPS at the earliest. The same is available at flipkart.

Now what is done is done, hope you get a speedy replacement. Cheerio!
 
If it's not my PSU then it must be my graphic card...
I want to make sure before RMA that it's gpu's fault...and not any other component's fault
 
Cooler Master Thunder 600Watt
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At some point somebody is going to have to understand that CM is a marketing company, not a technology company. All they know is where to put their stickers. They can't design and they can't specify and they can't manufacture. Their one and only competence is to source different products for different market segments, and though sometimes it works out well, most of the time it's just useless Chinese junk. Specially the stuff that is sold cheap. They know how to bribe and threaten bloggers and buy reviews, publish cheap little fliers for their products, and squeeze manufacturers for every last drop of blood. You can guess who bears the brunt of this nonsense.

I wouldn't be surprised if your PSU is capable of around half of what it promises, and has killed your card, will kill all others after it, ad infinitum till you change it. I would suspect that most of the problems people are having with new cards is because of horrible power supplies, aka 2007 all over again. This was when people began to realise that power supplies - specially from CM and a bunch of Indian hack 'IT companies' (that are still around btw) - were destroying perfectly good cards with bad voltages and tons of ripple. You can search the forum for Bikeinstein's great posts and pages of threads devoted to this very topic. Buying a CM supply for a good system is a bit like trying to fill up an Audi with adulterated kerosene.

Seasonic make their entire product line themselves, Corsair overspec their supplies to breaking point (though it is now apparent that the non-Seasonic Corsairs have their own issues), and I'm not sure I actually trust any other PSU manufacturer or brand just yet. I do not regard CM as worthy of a single power supply in any of my systems except perhaps as a 12V supply for a peltier cooling unit or a water pump. Maybe it will handle to 100 or so watts without imploding.

The Thunder is the sound of your card exploding. Good Luck.
 
@Shaleen, even I could not put it across more bluntly that the SMPS might be the root of the problem as has been elucidated by Cranky Sire.

And I think the GPU is already damaged to the point that it warrants a replacement.
 
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OMG! that was quite a thunderous revelation by @cranky
Didn't know all this... And there goes my idea of selling it online, I am afraid noone will buy it now
This calls for a post in "how much can i sell this for"
@ALPHA17 : so seasonic it is then... Will order as soon as I dump get rid of this PSU

I think there should be an anti coolermaster stickey thread on this forum
 
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Ok CM has some crap PSUs, but that does not mean it sells junk all the way. But hitting out at everyone out there?.
What options does it leave then?. Only Seasonic ?. It is hard for me to believe that only Seasonic in this modern age possess the technology to produce quality PSUs that deliver.
And why is outsourcing and re-branding always bad ?. Say for example Corsair AX 850, it is manufactured by Seasonic but is re-branded by Corsair. How does that make it bad ?.
I myself went for AX 850 because I wanted a Seasonic made product with a Corsair warranty.
Although I do agree Seasonic PSU are the best out there, but others are totally trash is something difficult to digest.

You trust JonnyGuru? check this review of the Cooler Master PSU, a 9/10 is not a piece of crap in my opinion.
Coolermaster Silent Pro M600 Review

So I guess it is down to every individual model out there rather than trashing the whole firm.

There seems to be some problem from Sapphire's side also, check this out.
http://www.techenclave.com/graphic-cards/sudden-random-drop-fps-7870-a-144799/

Note: Am not saying anything about OP's power supply because I know nothing about it.
 
^^I don't actually trust JG reviews. The definitive authority for PSU reviews is Hardware Secrets, though now AT is catching up (though they're some way away from getting a steady stream of test units).

An look at page 2 of the review. Will tell you a lot more than the rating. The Silent M Pro is supposed to be a premium supply, yet the best it can do is just about good. I counted 4 instances of 'not so great', 'disappointing' and similar words in 4 paragraphs. Crossload performance, switching spikes, and just average efficiency. Plus the continued use of Cheapo Teapo capacitors is something that you do not expect in a good supply any more.

You have to read reviews completely. The rating is what the newbie looks at. If you want to understand and make an informed choice, at least have the patience to read through the review.

I shall reiterate my point. CM makes nothing. They have no technology expertise. They are only a bunch of marketing guys with self-adhesive labels. The products they buy are the cheapest they can find, that meet a certain price band and target segment. Then they put stickers on it and sell it. Kind of like a Chinese iBall or Zebronics - trust me, I know these kind of people. I spent 17 years in marketing and can smell rats from very far away.

I guess when it comes to keyboards and cases it's fine to operate like that, but for core component outsourcing you at least need to be able to identify the right suppliers, provide the right specifications and do proper QC - which, for example, is what Corsair does. It is widely accepted that Corsair overspecs their supplies to ensure a decent failure margin, and then backs it up with fantastic warranties. I can understand that. However the kind of specifications and QC you do has a bearing on what the product is ultimately capable of. I had bought only Corsair supplies over the years until my first Seasonic X-850 last year after the HWS reviews put it marginally ahead of the AX-850. My most disappointing purchase was the Corsair TX750 built by CWT, which was extremely noisy both acoustically and electrically and I was hesitant to buy another high-powered Corsair.

I only have Seasonic-built supplies in my rigs now, but with Antec, Corsair and the factory brands. One of the supplies is over 7 years old, and still no signs of fatigue, aging or trouble, and not a single lost hardware unit in that time. I don't know, but that seems like great stuff to me. I've never owned a CM PSU and have no intention of doing so. Their Real Power Pro is probably the only series worth looking at, and they're not really competitive on price there. If the only thing I know a brand for is low-end crap, I will never trust them at the high end.
 
cranky said:
^^I don't actually trust JG reviews.

I only have Seasonic-built supplies in my rigs now, but with Antec, Corsair and the factory brands. One of the supplies is over 7 years old, and still no signs of fatigue, aging or trouble, and not a single lost hardware unit in that time. I don't know, but that seems like great stuff to me. I've never owned a CM PSU and have no intention of doing so. Their Real Power Pro is probably the only series worth looking at, and they're not really competitive on price there. If the only thing I know a brand for is low-end crap, I will never trust them at the high end.
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Surprising, since Hardware Secrets holds them in high regard -- Hardware Secrets Power Supply Test Methodology | Hardware Secrets.

Also the Real Power Pro series died quite some time back. It has been completely phased out in favour of the GX series.
 
@cranky
I did read the review. My point was though it may not be top notch, but it does not seem junk. But as you cast your doubts on JonnyGuru, I will have also check with some other sites.
Though I read and thought JonnyGuru was a trustworthy site and many people do recommend it.

I totally agree to your point that Seasonic is the best out there. No doubt. Also if you go for any x-760, ss 850km etc from Seasonic it always seems to be better than what Corsair offers although it is again built by Seasonic themselves. That point I did not understand, does Corsair use some of their own parts or Seasonic purposely downgrades them a bit or Corsair demand and pay and are fine with the slightly less sturdiness?.
But what I was trying to ask is, Is Seasonic the only firm out there that possess the technology to build high quality PSUs ?. No one else ? , that I said was a bit difficult to believe.

Is the AX 850 not worth it?. I got one so am thinking :p, I only read reviews from JonnyGuru, has Corsair overspec the ratings here too ?.
 
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harry_houdini said:
@cranky I did read the review. My point was though it may not be top notch, but it does not seem junk. But as you cast your doubts on JonnyGuru, I will have also check with some other sites.

I totally agree to your point that Seasonic is the best out there. No doubt. Also if you go for any x-760, ss 850km etc from Seasonic it always seems to be better than what Corsair offers although it is again built by Seasonic themselves. That point I did not understand, does Corsair use some of their own parts or Seasonic purposely downgrades them a bit or Corsair demand and pay and are fine with the slightly less sturdiness?.
But what I was trying to ask is, Is Seasonic the only firm out there that possess the technology to build high quality PSUs ?

Is the AX 850 not worth it?. I got one so am thinking :p, I only read reviews from JonnyGuru, has Corsair overspec the ratings here too ?
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What he meant was the Seasonic is a OEM. So they have plenty good experience at this stuff of getting products, good products at most price-points and decent at ultra-low budgets. Another OEM that I am aware of is FSP must be plenty other small time Chinese units that crank out stuff for companies like Zebronics and iBall.

Only issue that I have found is that Seasonic has really flaky after sales.

Corsair changed its OEM's from Seasonic some time back and have been under the scanner for the same reason for diluting quality (VS series anyone).

Problem with the Cooler Master Silent Pro M is that you spend a bit more and you can bag a Corsair HX series SMPS which has never come under the spotlight for alleged deficiency in the components used OR performance.

I still abide by Johnny Guru and so does Hardware Secrets for that matter.
 
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