Like you can change antenna in any router.
Have you even used a TP Link router ?
Max range router for 3000sq ft residence. Budget 10k.
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Like you can change antenna in any router.
Have you even used a TP Link router ?
Yes, not only me, everybody can change antenna of all routers which have attachable antenna. Apparently >95% of wireless routers have DE-attachable antenna.
Yes, I've. I still have a godforsaken tp-link 150Mbps router/ap lying around at my home.
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Ad oh yes, I've said Tp-link is bad only after using d-link, belkin, lynksys & cisco(leave it for the time being) routers.
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I was planning to go with a pair of 1043NDs, whats your gripe with TP-Link.
If TP-Link aint good, ill just go with the Cisco E900 and the RE1000 or the universal Netgear repeater that cranky suggested.
Naysayers to TPL-Link please speak up, and do provide a reason.
Thanks.
My reasons for opposing Tp-link are:
1. Bad user-interface to work with.
2. Heating problem (!)
3. Compatibility problem. (my tp-link have compatibility problem with D-link adapters)
4. Frequent connection drop.
5.Very bad wireless coverage. (I set up my tp-link as a repeater in the third floor of my home as tartiery router and its function was to receive signal from the router of 2nd floor and amplify it. But all it did is to drop connection not and them and when I ping to the 2nd router from tp-link one, reply time was ~200ms, which was totally unacceptable)
1. Bad user-interface to work with.
2. Heating problem (!)
3. Compatibility problem. (my tp-link have compatibility problem with D-link adapters)
4. Frequent connection drop.
5.Very bad wireless coverage. (I set up my tp-link as a repeater in the third floor of my home as tartiery router and its function was to receive signal from the router of 2nd floor and amplify it. But all it did is to drop connection not and them and when I ping to the 2nd router from tp-link one, reply time was ~200ms, which was totally unacceptable)
I too have it and it's not at all bad.
Linksys is by Cisco only, and no doubt they're best, but TP Link is way ahead of at at least D-Link, not used Netgear tbh.
Cisco is any day good. Go with it if you can go for it.
1) I really don't think so. You have to work with beetel and binatone to know how bad UI can be.
2) What !?!?
3) Can't say why.
4) Not with me.
5) Well, range is a very subjective thing, like the very router worked across three floors in my case. Plus, what ping can you expect from a tertiary repeater ? I actually don't know if 200ms is high or low in this case, as never setup similar config.
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All our discussions have gone in vein guys, my aunt got impatient and got the 'a netgear router for 9k' at the airtel engineers suggestion, she will go home and tell me the model number, I am guessing its either WNDR3800/4000. I doubt it will cover her entire house, lets hope it does, else she has wasted 9k on a router, none of the features that she will put to use.
Lets see, may still need to buy a repeater, will get a netgear one now!
Thanks @cranky @blr_p @JuGGa @d6bmg
Lets see, may still need to buy a repeater, will get a netgear one now!
Thanks @cranky @blr_p @JuGGa @d6bmg
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With due respect: first bolder part describes the reason behind costing 2nd bolder part.
FYI: Cheapest Cisco wireless_G router, Cisco 851 costs $270, which is not available in India (AFAIK).
Linksys is toy compared to Cisco.
For your 2nd part, meh! Fore more info, seethe number of review of any tp-link & dlink product, or any good international site.
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With due respect: first bolder part describes the reason behind costing 2nd bolder part.
FYI: Cheapest Cisco wireless_G router, Cisco 851 costs $270, which is not available in India (AFAIK).
Linksys is toy compared to Cisco.
For your 2nd part, meh! Fore more info, seethe number of review of any tp-link & dlink product, or any good international site.
Is this an issue with the N13? Out of curiosity are you running stock firmware or have you tried something like dd-wrt?
I've had very good stability with an older wl520gu + tomatoUSB (stock firmware used to lose WAN connection occasionally). Looking for something similar, but a little confused since the only Broadcom based router (for tomato) around the N13 price range is the N10U. So not sure whether to step down to an N10U with tomato or take a chance with the N13 and hope stock firmware is good.
I can't use DD-WRT. I have V1 of the router with 4MB ROM, DD-WRT only supports V2 onwards. I do know there is a version out there which works with the older V1, but not keen to experiment.
And no, it is not a problem with the Asus. It happens with all combinations of router and repeater - even when using Netgear's own WNRPT2000 as a repeater, or even the Asus as a router and the 3700 as a repeater. I think it is an issue with IP renewal, but I haven't spent time investigating it. I just find it easier to log into the router and reboot it.
And no, it is not a problem with the Asus. It happens with all combinations of router and repeater - even when using Netgear's own WNRPT2000 as a repeater, or even the Asus as a router and the 3700 as a repeater. I think it is an issue with IP renewal, but I haven't spent time investigating it. I just find it easier to log into the router and reboot it.
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Guys, another question - Dad needs a secondary router in his office, the coverage area is 1000 sq.ft, range is not an issue, he wants the USB print server option. So, my greedy mind at work again, I am planning to offload my RT-N13U to him, and get a new one with better range for myself. The current house is 1800sq ft, but we will be moving to a larger house (2800 sq.ft) in a couple months. So please suggest a new router that will support full HD streaming, while surfing and decent file transfer speeds. Not sure I require dual band, but will be good to have. I was looking at the following:
1) TP-Link 1043ND - Having second thoughts due to the mixed reviews
2) Asus RT-N16 - Like to have a router with external atennae
3) Asus RT-N53U
4) Asus RT-N56U
@cranky @blr_p please help
1) TP-Link 1043ND - Having second thoughts due to the mixed reviews
2) Asus RT-N16 - Like to have a router with external atennae
3) Asus RT-N53U
4) Asus RT-N56U
@cranky @blr_p please help
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If you go with with the N13 there is the dd-wrt option. no need to stick with stock. Thing is i don't see people here using N13 with dd-wrt for better stability rather they want the flexibility to use software which is not present in stock.
Do you really need two routers to begin with when one centrally placed and more powerful would do.
Is your place a multi-storey ?
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Floor layout of the new place, indicating
- where you expect to place the router
- where the wifi clients will be and their respective distances from the router including any walls and how thick
- expected area for signal coverage.
Oh and primary requirement is you need to have access to the site and can go there repeatedy to do tests with an android phone/tablet plus a spare router for range finding.
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There are no 2 routers mate, the N13U that I have currently is going to dad, he needs the 2 wifi networks at the office cause the existing BSNL keep dropping on and off, the customer care is non existent, so they already have an airtel, just hooking up a router to that.
None of em are multistory, the current house, I shifted my comp to the other end (with TP-Link 150mbps USB reciever), and now I get -74 RSSI, and in the bathroom adjoining my comp, the signal is weak, and I often run 'Virtual router' on the desktop and use devices in the restroom. I have streamed video file from my laptop in the same room as my desktop to my desktop, it would freeze a couple times while playing but manageable. The full HD videos do stutter a lot, now I have got a lan cable and directly connect my laptop to desktop and play the videos. As for gaming for most of it Bf3 MP goes ok, with the occasional spikes.
Anyways this is for a couple months will be moving to a new place, and there will try and have the WAN wired to my desktop, and it will be 2800 sq ft and single floor, but with a couple smart tvs and stream movies from router to other devices and also print server would be nice to have. Again, I am thinking I may not be able to cover the entire area with one router, but need a solid base router, and will see if I need a repeater and can add one.
So, please suggest. Thanks in advance.
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err, that was my reply to Crazy Eddy.
Wrt to the new place unless you can put up a floor layout indicating where things are its not feasible to say anything more as you are going into this blind & deaf.
Reduce the variables first.
Cannot answer your query about the usb printer as i'm not knowledgeable about it yet. From the little i've read this tends to be finicky. I need to get a printer myself some day and am thinking about ones with ethernet as everything works with those.
Wrt to the new place unless you can put up a floor layout indicating where things are its not feasible to say anything more as you are going into this blind & deaf.
Reduce the variables first.
Cannot answer your query about the usb printer as i'm not knowledgeable about it yet. From the little i've read this tends to be finicky. I need to get a printer myself some day and am thinking about ones with ethernet as everything works with those.
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Oh ok sorry for the confusion, here is the floor plan of the new place.
1 - would be my room and would effectively have the router there.
2- Has the main telephone line too, so the hall could also be an alternative location
I am leaning towards the N56U, but please let me know if its worth the money.
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Basic internet all throughout the house
HD streaming - to the 2 living rooms and the master bed room
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When can you get to the site to do some range finding.
You will need inssider installed on either a android tab or wifi-laptop and your asus N13U
If the N13U can have a DLNA server installed then you just need a thumb drive attached with a typical size movie on it to see what the performance will be like on the client at various distances.
You will need inssider installed on either a android tab or wifi-laptop and your asus N13U
If the N13U can have a DLNA server installed then you just need a thumb drive attached with a typical size movie on it to see what the performance will be like on the client at various distances.
The way I see it, option 1 is a non-option. Option 2 is better (placing your router in the kitchen is not a good idea unless you can isolate it from heat and oils - though it seems like the best place as of now), but is your server hardwired or connected wirelessly to the router? A NAS or other fileserver connected to the router with and Ethernet cable will be far more capable of serving content than a USB drive connected to the router, and indeed a wireless client. The RT-N13U has a max USB speed of about 3MB/s. not hot at all, and definitely not sufficient for HD streaming.
I would suggest 5GHz for every client that needs HD streaming, and a good 3x3 dual-band router. This will mean stepping above the '600mbps' routers and looking at the '900mbps' variety, with the correct client adapters and wireless cards. You can never have enough bandwidth, and it seems that it would help in a house with so many walls.
I would suggest 5GHz for every client that needs HD streaming, and a good 3x3 dual-band router. This will mean stepping above the '600mbps' routers and looking at the '900mbps' variety, with the correct client adapters and wireless cards. You can never have enough bandwidth, and it seems that it would help in a house with so many walls.
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The tricky bit with this floor plan is he wants HD streaming at diagonal opposites of the house.
So i'm thinking very generally at this point about where to fit 2 circles with a radius of 30 feet in that house just for basic coverage.
One point could be where the walls of the kitchen, formal & family rooms intersect giving coverage to both family rooms + bedrooms 2 + 3
The other could be near the entrance of bedroom-1 which would cover master + BR-1 + guest room
Thats 2 routers or 2 channels occupied out of 3 on the 2.4 Ghz band.
He needs to do a site survey around the flat to see how busy the 2.4Ghz band is.
At this point i'm thinking 2 x N600 or (1xN600 + extender) rather than 1 x N900 as the 450 advantage will be lost beyond 10 feet.
The USB drive was just for a test, should be fast enough to stream for range finding. But he needs a DLNA server on the router. Not sure if the N13U stock includes it or whether 3rd party install is required.
So i'm thinking very generally at this point about where to fit 2 circles with a radius of 30 feet in that house just for basic coverage.
One point could be where the walls of the kitchen, formal & family rooms intersect giving coverage to both family rooms + bedrooms 2 + 3
The other could be near the entrance of bedroom-1 which would cover master + BR-1 + guest room
Thats 2 routers or 2 channels occupied out of 3 on the 2.4 Ghz band.
He needs to do a site survey around the flat to see how busy the 2.4Ghz band is.
At this point i'm thinking 2 x N600 or (1xN600 + extender) rather than 1 x N900 as the 450 advantage will be lost beyond 10 feet.
The USB drive was just for a test, should be fast enough to stream for range finding. But he needs a DLNA server on the router. Not sure if the N13U stock includes it or whether 3rd party install is required.
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Position 1, is where my desktop will be most likely or in the adjoining room, and I think we have internal CAT 5 to the point 2 outside the kitchen in the living room. Do you guys think 2xN56Us will be able to handle the load? cranky from what I understand is that you are suggesting the N66U and routers in that category, the thing is I am not certain of my future due to some work assignments, I may relocate, in that case it will just be basic internet usage in the living rooms and the master bed room. So if you guys can suggest an effective scalable solution, that would be great, else I am ok with taking the plunge for the N66U. The thing is, it wont be put to full use till 2 months down the line, so again the scalable would again help.
Edit- guys, sorry thats old plan, here is the new one, apologies.
Thanks!