Blue Whale Challenge

Not condoning the twisted-ness behind this crap, but wtf are those kids thinking? It just boils down to poor parenting mostly, i think. I mean, as a kid i wondered if i could fly, but never decided to try jumping off a balcony after watching a superman cartoon. There is a small possibility of congenital mental issues with some kids, but such extreme actions usually mean there are some deep rooted issues which are probably related to parental neglect or abuse, excessive peer pressure, bullying etc. If kids are nurtured properly they won't easily fall for such nonsense.
 
When I was a kid my dad thrashed me for losing a pencil box set. I used to wonder why he made such a fuss for a pencil box set but then it had cost him Rs.10 and that was a big amount couple of decades ago and it was hard earned money for him. After this I never lost another pencil box set throughout my school life. I agree with Julian. We are too busy with our work and we never socialize with our family. The kids are left to fend for themselves and we just provide them whatever is required or they ask for. Maybe kids today are not mentally prepared to take pressure or they are taking in too much pressure.
 
Not condoning the twisted-ness behind this crap, but wtf are those kids thinking? It just boils down to poor parenting mostly, i think. I mean, as a kid i wondered if i could fly, but never decided to try jumping off a balcony after watching a superman cartoon.

Lack of common sense of that kind cannot be attributed to parenting issues. Unless we are talking about a kid below 8 years and even then it is very very unlikely. Kids don't have a higher likelihood of jumping off a balcony after watching superman just because their parents are neglecting them.
Self Preservation is a base instinct that all animals (including humans) are naturally born with. In a normal human, it will take a lot to override that instinct.

One has to be psychologically defective to be able to override those instincts so easily and that doesn't just manifest itself just because they are neglected. There are many kids out there on the streets who are neglected or even orphans. You don't see them taking their own lives.

Certain people also cause self harm just through thoughtless actions that are devoid of sense. For example, trying to see how close you can put your head to the wheels of a running train. They wouldn't dream of killing themselves even if they end up doing so. That is a different category.
 
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Lack of common sense of that kind cannot be attributed to parenting issues. Unless we are talking about a kid below 8 years and even then it is very very unlikely. Kids don't have a higher likelihood of jumping off a balcony after watching superman just because their parents are neglecting them.
Self Preservation is a base instinct that all animals (including humans) are naturally born with. In a normal human, it will take a lot to override that instinct.

One has to be psychologically defective to be able to override those instincts so easily and that doesn't just manifest itself just because they are neglected. There are many kids out there on the streets who are neglected or even orphans. You don't see them taking their own lives.

Certain people also cause self harm just through thoughtless actions that are devoid of sense. For example, trying to see how close you can put your head to the wheels of a running train. They wouldn't dream of killing themselves even if they end up doing so. That is a different category.

I think the entire point of the challenges or whatever they are, is to override that instinct of life.
 
This is probably another kalabhandar type of scenario gaining traction only because people love b**ching 'kids these days'. There is nothing going on other than teenage issues and suicides.

People are jumping to the conclusion that this is due to blue whale. Check the link posted by op, it starts as below - '"
It must be noted, however, that there still is no confirmation of the existence of the game, and suicides linked to it are from personal accounts of families/friends of those deceased'". Even with that disclaimer no one had any trouble jumping directly to conclusions

Looks like all the news connecting the game to suicides in India were also not true -

https://scroll.in/article/847800/a-...ws-up-little-evidence-and-tenuous-connections
 
I think the entire point of the challenges or whatever they are, is to override that instinct of life.

No, normal people would not be coerced to self-harm or suicide just because of some challenge from some unknown online person or group. The people who tend towards such self harm are people who already have that tendency and would find some other reason/excuse for doing it even if not this. These kinds of baits exist solely to trap people with existing tendencies.
 
I think i read somewhere that the creator said that he basically made this 'game' to trim the herd and weed out the messed-up from the populace. total psycho.
 
There's no proof that the game exists and it's first report is from Russia so I highly doubt authenticity of this claim. It's more likely that teen and youth suicides are brushed under this excuse.
 
Darwinism on steroids

Pretty much.

There's no proof that the game exists and it's first report is from Russia so I highly doubt authenticity of this claim. It's more likely that teen and youth suicides are brushed under this excuse.

It's not a physical game per se, just a series of forwards which for some reason kids take seriously enough to follow through. I think there were reports of kids having performed previous tasks and self harm evidence on their bodies which were as per the game's instructions.
 
Why is this called a 'game'? I mean what is prize if you complete it or what is the fun in playing such a 'game' in the first place?
I feel that someone has just made these bullshit stories and there is no such bluewhale thing.. People are spreading the same bullshit since they are really falling for the suicide nonsense..
 
I think i read somewhere that the creator said that he basically made this 'game' to trim the herd and weed out the messed-up from the populace. total psycho.

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Children are like sponges just waiting to absorb something or the other. In other words, they're impressionable and very susceptible to suggestion.

That holds true for humans in general. Religion for instance exists in the first place because people are susceptible to suggestion. But then there are things that you still don't do just based on that. For example, how many people out there are ready to kill themselves or others because of their religious belief? Only a few and they are looked at as nut cases.

Kids may be sponges who absorb everything they see, but not all of them pick up every bad thing they see. Yes, there is a stage in early childhood years where kids don't have the knowledge or common sense to even use them. But If you have enough knowledge to know drugs and what suicide means, you have ought to have enough common sense to not be susceptible to some random guy online or offline goading you into doing drugs or committing suicide.

Also, bad parenting isn't necessarily the direct cause of such accidents. Bad parenting can contribute to self-harm on part of the child but it cannot be the sole motivating factor, as in the case of the reported suicides connected to the Blue Whale Challenge.

Which is what I already said. Good parenting is not about controlling every aspect of your kids life. In flat, most of the bad parenting situations involves spoiling children though interaction like forcefully imbibing their own beliefs (including religion) and prejudices on their children or pampering them and completely shielding them from the harsh realities of life and letting them think that they can do or get whatever they want.

Why even bring up mental impairment in the first place?

Psychologically defective does not equate to mental impairment. Sadism, Masochism, OCD, Mood swings and traits like that for instance are also psychological defects that are not necessarily mental impairment.

What's the connection between parenting and orphaned street children? Sounds like you're so determined to bring orphaned street children into the picture that you decided to use an off-topic subject like mental impairment to make a connection between parenting and orphaned children.

Shows that children don't start playing suicide games or doing drugs just because their parents are not giving them enough attention. Yes there are those who go rogue regardless of their conditions, but you don't see all of them going that way.
Environment and Influences do matter, but not to the extent that you think. Adults who are strong minded were usually strong minded as kids too and vice versa applies too.

My own father was a chain smoker and had smoked since the age of 14. There were also classmates right from school to college who smoked (or consumed alcohol). But I never got into either habit and there were so many others in school/colleges who didn't either. But there are those who did form those bad habits in various stages ranging from school to college or even after joining a job. Do you mean to say that those who formed these bad habits before they turned 18 are all victims and those who did after are not?

Very true. But normal people and children are not the same. Because grown-ups and children are not the same. One is highly inexperienced/susceptible to suggestion while the other preferably should know better than to be influenced by such apps.
Why indirectly shame the children who undoubtedly are the victims here?

Inexperienced till what age? When a 12 or 14 year old rapes or tortures and murders, the same apologies's are used when in realty, the kid already knows right from wrong and also often have enough understanding of the law to know that their age would prevent them from being punished harshly for it. It is absurd to consider a kid to be a victim in every situation just because they are below 18 years. Kids are not "victims" 1 sec before they turn 18 and all knowing adults 1 sec after. It is not so black and white.I am also not saying that none of them are victims, but you need to be clear on what they are victim of and why. Some may be a victim of the circumstances or environment they are living in and some may just be a victim of the psychological conditions or tendencies they are born with, but not everybody is a victim. Neither of bad parenting or some online vultures trying to prey on them.

A kid who started doing drugs on his own volition or because all of his/her friends doing it is not a victim. A kid who committed suicide over a silly argument with his/her brother/sister over TV remote or a stupid online challenge asking for self-harm is not a victim.
 
This is probably another kalabhandar type of scenario gaining traction only because people love b**ching 'kids these days'. There is nothing going on other than teenage issues and suicides.

People are jumping to the conclusion that this is due to blue whale. Check the link posted by op, it starts as below - '"
It must be noted, however, that there still is no confirmation of the existence of the game, and suicides linked to it are from personal accounts of families/friends of those deceased'". Even with that disclaimer no one had any trouble jumping directly to conclusions

Looks like all the news connecting the game to suicides in India were also not true -

https://scroll.in/article/847800/a-...ws-up-little-evidence-and-tenuous-connections
This. The whole thing sounds to me like "Ankit Fadia the hacker" type of reporting. Pure sensationalism.

That said, @jith77 , please don't use bold or big fonts, people can still read.
 
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