Meet ChatGPT (Artificial Intelligence), good alternative to Google?

Like I said previously, AI = teenager which goes to college to train. AGI = fully grown adult which doesn't need training on past data to solve unsolved problems. Equating AGI to just another calculator or printer isn't correct. Calculator, printer etc tools are made for humans. AGI (when it's ready) is human. It's made to replace humans. It's a tool for sure yeah. But it's the best suited for CEO and top management.
The article I posted said best suited for command & control. Faster decision-making at the top level. They aren't going to be replaced because no one is going to report to some bot.
And I'm not fear mongering. I was the first to jump on the AI train. I have been using and paying github copilot for almost a year now, GPT4, signed up for its plugins etc. I'll soon start using AWS's copilot replacement which was recently launched. I have been closely following what's happening in this industry. I love it.
So those that get on the bus early are not going to be out of a job any time soon are they? They will be the ones evangelising and implementing this tech in areas where it has not been used before. Course that will be subject to politics. How big of a force they are trying to replace
In my recent thread I asked something that I could gift to a 5 year old. My first thought was to print a similar book myself. I pitched the idea to GPT4, it created a nice story in the style of Roald Dahl. I asked its image generative AI to draw cartoon in the style of Sir Quentin Blake. Beautiful job here as well. Only problem was that cartoons weren't progressive. And it's not AI's problem but humans who are governing the AI haven't implemented that feature yet.

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I don't understand what you mean by progressive here. It could not come up with a story or the story was not a story?

AGI is going to be much more capable in the future. But the limitations to it won't be born by itself but by humans. Think of slavery or women not given rights to vote. Companies will limit their AI in the name of safety ( = less lawsuits). There will be increased demand for unsafe access to AGI in underground groups. Take the example of midjourny. It's AI is quite unsafe compared to GPT4. And that's why it's more in demands.
The idea of automatons taking over the world and enslaving the human race is well-known in science fiction. Going back many decades if not over a century.
Coming back to my point, going forward, IT companies won't need that much human resources. AI will be capable of replacing half of the people in this industry. Coders will be first to go because these guys have put mammoth amount of material on the internet for AI to train. There are more coding resources than bio, mechanical, law, civil etc resources combined. Those who are underestimating AI are looking at the past AI history and are clearly oblivious to the current inertia of this field.
How maintainable will the code written be? how easy will it be to modify and who will manage this process? Practical stuff like that.

Now you will say I don't need ten guys for this project when i can get away with two. I will ask you to rethink what you just said :)

Also, it's not just underestimating but acceptance. How willing are people going to be to the solutions provided? In some fixed areas it won't matter elsewhere it will.

Would you want something working for you with a mind of its own? That's not how hierarchies work.
In any computer domain, we jokingly say that 2 years are equal to a decade for the outside world because everything changes so quickly. Well, here in AI world, one month is equal to a decade. AI's gold rush has already started. Most of the new startups in silicon valley are AI related. Forget your cute gaming GPU scalping prices. Check the prices of A series GPUs used to train an AI. Those cost above 20k-40k $ nowadays.
And what real world problems are these startups solving? Or is that up to their customers? You are describing the future IBM's and Apple's here I suppose.
So update your resume or be a typewriter grandpa.
The only people I take seriously are those with grey hair or no hair. They lived around long enough to see the bigger picture much faster than the young who tend to be specs oriented but can't see further.

What I'm looking for is credible examples of real world use. That gives an indication of what is coming. Right now everyone is speculating, just like they did during the internet boom and all the previous tech booms of yore.
 
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The article I posted said best suited for command & control. Faster decision-making at the top level. They aren't going to be replaced because no one is going to report to some bot.
The article you shared clearly states AI fights better than humans.

Everyone has been saying that fifth gen fighter planes will be the last manned fighter planes as humans are the bottleneck nowadays. Most missions these days are flown by drones (not fighter planes). RC or AI controlled drones are supposed to be the future.

I don't understand what you mean by progressive here. It could not come up with a story or the story was not a story?
Second image can't inherit the details from the first one. So you can expect little girls hair, cloth etc change in every new output.

The idea of automatons taking over the world and enslaving the human race is well-known in science fiction. Going back many decades if not over a century.
It doesn't matter. AI isn't controlled by one guy, company or country. There are several AIs at this point who can easily pass the turing test. If someone had claimed that turing test was broken last year everyone would be laughing. This goes to show how rapidly the field is changing.

How maintainable will the code written be? how easy will it be to modify and who will manage this process? Practical stuff like that.
Oh, at this level, github copilot can write better code than our indian grad students.

There's one big limitation given to AIs in the coding world today. They aren't given a working memory. So they can guess but aren't allowed to 'think'. Working memory term isn't related computer science but neuroscience. All humans have it. That's how they can simulate variables in their mind. When coding AIs given the working memory, they can not only guess a thousand solutions to given problem but also test each one of them for accuracy, profile them and pick the best one before presenting it to the humans. It'll eventually happen.

Would you want something working for you with a mind of its own? That's not how hierarchies work.
So managers, employees working for me don't have mind of their own?

And what real world problems are these startups solving? Or is that up to their customers? You are describing the future IBM's and Apple's here I suppose.
There's an AI that edits your video, another AI that adds visual effects, AI that writes blogs, Or makes music. Just now there's an AI generated song by Drake and the weeknd going viral. Just get in the AI news.
The only people I take seriously are those with grey hair or no hair. They lived around long enough to see the bigger picture much faster than the young who tend to be specs oriented but can't see further.
Does Bill Gates have grey hair? He hasn't suggested it as a threat to be precise because his company is the biggest investor in this field. I would have suggested Elon Musk but he doesn't seem to have any grey hair. What about steve wozniak? He looks like a husky.

What I'm looking for is credible examples of real world use.
Na. What you are looking for is spoon feeding. :p Just open the youtube and search for AI. Check the 2 minute paper channel or the one suggest by @psyph3r
 
This thread is devolving into Blake Lemoine's ramblings
I had to google that name. I think you are implying that some of us believe in ghosts/soul or paranormal activity. I don't believe in soul, ghosts, voodoo, nimbu mirchi, tax cuts, coherent Rakhi Sawant etc. I don't think there's anything special about humans that can't be replicated. Conscience is nothing but just a set of neurons wiring. Science has reached to the point where Love, pain, desire, motive, delirium can be formulated and sold over the counter.

All my rambling is to prepare human made up of meat and bones for an unexpected tomorrow. We are at the tipping point of the technology where it'll be soon possible to deploy billions of brains/conscience at a click of a button. These are going to be better than our own in every possible measure.
 
Conscience is nothing but just a set of neurons wiring. Science has reached to the point where Love, pain, desire, motive, delirium can be formulated and sold over the counter.

All my rambling is to prepare human made up of meat and bones for an unexpected tomorrow. We are at the tipping point of the technology where it'll be soon possible to deploy billions of brains/conscience at a click of a button. These are going to be better than our own in every possible measure.
Like AI itself, this not new.
 
What I'm looking for is credible examples of real world use. That gives an indication of what is coming.
Do you know what is cumming? There are now AI to clean the pipes. You might heard of 'stable diffusion' but have you heard of 'unstable diffusion'? Also don't check out pornpen dot ai. Only fans would understand how credible these examples are.

Forget the white collar, AI is now going after BDSM collar jobs.
 

Blue collar thumbs up. Interesting. So manufacturing real stuff due to decoupling works here. It will too for make in India

low-end, low value add to mid-white collar thumbs down but with caveats. First-level customer service if not third-level. A category of call centre jobs at risk here maybe. I want to see how this industry is going to respond.

How good of a teacher can AI be? That could be useful at the secondary level. Since it's mostly one way to students. But Q&A will need a human. In any case, a lot of corporate training used video like two decades ago. With real people talking instead of avatars. But someone had to design the course. That job the AI must do. How well?

After making a good first impression I still think people are hyping the potential. They love to say Game over before the game even begins :D

Like they are in the fortune-telling business
The article you shared clearly states AI fights better than humans.
In the lab. Where is the real-world implementation of it? Nowhere. How well will they survive battle testing? No data to work with yet. Just promise.

A truism in war is the man behind the machine makes all the difference. AI is touted to replace that man. Ain't happening. Not in our lifetimes.

Where is AI being used then?
AI is already in the battle field , Sensor fusion and DRFM are all based on Neural Network and Machine Learning and DSP processing, Rafale does it , Tejas does it , Su30MKI does it AI is not new to Military it is their since 90s , Only rebranded from Neural Network to AI. Brahmos itself uses lots of AI/ML for SeaSkimming , Nirbhay uses AI for Terrain Hopping , these are nothing new
Rebranded, heh Since the 90s. Do you see how long it takes to adopt? If you can replace costly sensors with cheaper ones using AI then that can work. But proving takes a long time. You are in effect making a cheaper calculator.

Everyone has been saying that fifth gen fighter planes will be the last manned fighter planes as humans are the bottleneck nowadays. Most missions these days are flown by drones (not fighter planes). RC or AI controlled drones are supposed to be the future.
Ya, this is what people were parroting after Azerbaijan-Armenia then Ukraine happened and we learnt drones are not game changers and are incapable of changing outcomes on the battlefield. They have niche uses. ISR and going after point targets. Would you allow a fleet of drones to be managed by AI for a mission? no.

Do you know what other myth got blown up since Ukraine? cyber.Same limitations. In a conflict at the border, it does not make one bit of difference if Bombay's grid goes down for a few hours.

The shocker that has come out of Ukraine is wars are not short affairs. They can be long and protracted. How sustainable are high-cost weapons systems in such a scenario? Himars system with its $100k missiles vs. $20 artillery shell. The West is scrambling to find stuff and can't induct too much high tech because training people to use this stuff takes many months. Simple is good. Complex is not. Battlefields impose constraints on tech that can be used. Glitches cost lives. Can't use too much high-tech up in the mountains.

It turns out people are cheaper than machines. Boots on the ground win wars. Sheer blood and guts. Tech assists where possible.

Why am I talking about war? because all the tech we take for granted today had its roots in the defence industry. This is where it's going to be used first and to advantage if possible.

Oh, at this level, github copilot can write better code than our indian grad students.
github is hobby level. I'm looking for more. How many engineers going to get fired at MS, Apple, Google or any of countless software companies? because you know AI can do it all now. I wonder what those employees have to say about such a prospect since they are all on the chopping block. All drawing six-figure salaries as well.

Which version of Android or iOS is going to be done entirely by AI ?

Which category of people is being laid off at companies like Amazon these days? support level or those developing Amazon's software. Who knows?

Creating something isn't difficult. Code generation for UI's was doable twenty years back. Then the real people took over to fill in the blanks.

I said maintainable. If you can't maintain it then it's useless. Sure these things can generate whizz-bang stuff but if a fix or modification needs to be done and the bot can't do it then a human is needed. And if they can't figure out what this thing has done you got nothing.

Code goes through a lot of iterations in its life cycle. It's constantly changing. Features to be added. Bugs to be fixed. Complexity to manage. These are all real-world problems which I see not much evidence for other than speculation.

So managers, employees working for me don't have mind of their own?
Why add to the problem? The idea with machines is they aren't supposed to have these issues. They don't get tired, they don't argue they are cost effective. Here is a problem get it done within these constraints.
There's an AI that edits your video, another AI that adds visual effects, AI that writes blogs, Or makes music. Just now there's an AI generated song by Drake and the weeknd going viral. Just get in the AI news.
Proofs of concept.
Na. What you are looking for is spoon feeding. :p Just open the youtube and search for AI. Check the 2 minute paper channel or the one suggest by @psyph3r
Don't I do that here already? How about some QPQ. Why should I have to look at claims people make here? I'm not going to do their homework. Not my job to prove negatives. If you can't answer the simple questions asked then why should I trust anything people say? Very little substantiation is given.

Am pretty sure only very few things being claimed here are going to see the light of day this decade. Expert systems were a big thing in the 90s. Who needs that costly expert when you can distil what he knows into some program and use that instead? Didn't quite work out and I'm supposed to believe something with a mind of its own will? LOL

in the CAD field, they allowed automated changing of parameters in complex mechanical designs. You change a part or its dimensions and the system works out what changes have to be made to the parts its interfaces with and so on and you get to see the impact of that change on the overall design. Better calculator.

Big things were claimed back then. A decade went by and I saw how slow the takeup was and what the impact was. Then the next wave came, rinse and repeat. This is going to be the same.

Just because you can replace people does not mean you should. I can hire cheaper workers to get a job done but if these guys do bad work that needs more checking, that has to be fixed or worse after it's not savings. Oh, and this lot has a mind of its own too. When was that ever an asset at the low level? That is what AI is replacing, isn't it? There are going to be loads of teething problems you won't hear about. Since the scope is much larger it just has to take more time to adopt than previous tech iterations.

What I'm looking for is, case studies where AI was introduced and the results explained and studied. Not lab stuff.
 
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@blr_p you are describing what was. All your experience and anecdotes are from the past.

There are no true examples of AI/AGI in the past. So taking a leap from the past isn't correct. This is an entirely new animal here. Also, the innovations happening at exponential speeds. The capabilities of AI from the last month is an archaic news. The field is changing so rapidly that it has become hard for me to keep up. Samsung is rumored to be replacing the Google with AI on its devices. And you are telling me there are no implications of the AI? I'm already doing more than 50% of googling on Bing. It already provides better answers to some of the complicated questions that are asked here on TE.

 
"AI is the most profound technology humanity is working on. More profound than fire, electricity, or anything that we have done in the past."

...Sundar Pichai, CEO of the company which is losing the AI war.
 
I'd love if Lamar gives me very personalized insults at every step.


I might have to subscribe in a month or two. If it's good we might have to let go some of the content writers.
I just wanted to know on how much of a difference does that 20$ makes. Is there a limitations or not, such things. also about GPT4 stuff!
 
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