Forum Feedback Behavior of TE Members (Gyan Ahead, You have been warned!)

[puns]

True, but aren't the members in question the specific ones with whom such issues happened?
As someone pointed out why stretch when one shall just accept the mistakes, apologize and simply move on. But the culprits are busy defending their faults across directions.

There is no end to this. All we will have is mud slinging in the open.
This thread is merely a reflection of experiences of people and a heads up on what happens sometimes and be wary of such behaviour.
Also, if people who visit this thread have a moral compass, they will move in the right direction and also for those who make mistakes or take the wrong way, to correct hopefully in future to make TE an even more trustworthy place.
Again, these issues happen sometimes like I said and not about A particular person or issue. Its larger than that

 

[ashish]

acha! is it!
prove your point with fact. instead of ranting randomly

Fact? Take your own recent ongoing issues and I'm not ranting if you understand what I said

anyway i am out of this thread!!

Dekhte hai kab tak..

 

[ibose]

these issues happen sometimes

For the specific instance you are responding to, maybe, yes.
But not if there is a consistent pattern and the same individual is involved. I can imagine once, twice or even thrice just to give the benefit of doubt. Any more, and we have a problem.

 

[nRiTeCh]

For the specific instance you are responding to, maybe, yes.
But not if there is a consistent pattern and the same individual is involved. I can imagine once, twice or even thrice just to give the benefit of doubt. Any more, and we have a problem.

Well, why to even wait for twice or thrice repeats and let the fellow members suffer when the stage is clear itself in the very first instance?

 

[Tobikage]

Well, why to even wait for twice or thrice repeats and let the fellow members suffer when the stage is clear itself in the very first instance?

It's a toy car I refused to sell to you.
Sorry...collectible.

You're acting like I denied your loved one a kidney transplant and killed all of your hopes and dreams and also your dog.

Actually I still offered to sell it to you at the agreed on price as long as you bought the rest of the set (which is 5..6 year old since release) which I was not going to part out just for your convenience. The asking total was still less than market value and yet you felt like offering to pay less.

Anyways.... goodluck with your search.

 

[Black_Hawk]

It's a toy car I refused to sell to you.
Sorry...collectible.

You're acting like I denied your loved one a kidney transplant and killed all of your hopes and dreams and also your dog.

Actually I still offered to sell it to you at the agreed on price as long as you bought the rest of the set (which is 5..6 year old since release) which I was not going to part out just for your convenience. The asking total was still less than market value and yet you felt like offering to pay less.

Anyways.... goodluck with your search.

LoL I'm sure you didn't deny him the kidney transplant nor shoot his dog but I think he takes the hobby of collecting scale models seriously, extremely seriously. His passion is very evident from that post and how deeply rooted he is to the hobby. Thus, I think he got heated due to the deal not working out.

I'm hoping the both of you can find a common ground and seal the deal.

 

[nRiTeCh]

You're acting like I denied your loved one a kidney transplant and killed all of your hopes and dreams and also your dog.

Well, people like you will never understand what a hobby is so better dont talk about something which is beyond your IQ levels, you cannot understand. There are many hobbyist here who can understand how it feels. So hopeless people will never understand what are hopes and dreams.

And as for kidneys, this should not happen to you or your family but if ever in your life there arises a situation where there's a requirement for a kidney transplant and the donor or the party plays similar games of putting a deal of buying the entire body organ set then I'm sure you can relate this incident..

Karma hits back with crushing hopes, dreams and kidneys..so keep a watch on yours..

Actually I still offered to sell it to you at the agreed on price as long as you bought the rest of the set (which is 5..6 year old since release) which I was not going to part out just for your convenience.

I know how your greedy mind decided that in no time, right? If you even know how to sell you wouldn't had made such lame excuses in first place.
And also costing me a dear deal elsewhere just that I was committed dealing with you.

The asking total was still less than market value and yet you felt like offering to pay less.

Just go read those chats again.. I finally agreed to buy the entire set just for 500 bucks less to which till date there's no response.
But, you wanted to play everything on your terms..from 399 to 5.5k.
If you were even serious on dealing you could have replied to me when I offered you the negotiated pricing. Either yes/no or whatever!

Lastly, if I was someone like you who likes to loot people, milk them and take undue advantage of their situations, I wouldn't had bothered about what price you quote but I dont carry such intentions nor have ever sold at a higher price and took undue advantage of someones situations whatsoever..

And btw why even care or bother to reply me here just because I pointed this incident and you are trying to defend with zero outputs?
You could had replied me way back on whatsapp.

To conclude, dude you dont even have the balls to simply agree that you wanted to make the most of the the situation and hence the game!

 

[PunkX 75]

It's a toy car I refused to sell to you.
Sorry...collectible.

You're acting like I denied your loved one a kidney transplant and killed all of your hopes and dreams and also your dog.

Actually I still offered to sell it to you at the agreed on price as long as you bought the rest of the set (which is 5..6 year old since release) which I was not going to part out just for your convenience. The asking total was still less than market value and yet you felt like offering to pay less.

Anyways.... goodluck with your search.

If you had committed to a certain price/deal and then suddenly backtracked with the condition that the entire set has to be bought (a lower overall price being irrespective), then you are in the wrong, no two ways about it. Yes, you are absolutely entitled to change your mind but don't defend it.

Actually I still offered to sell it to you at the agreed on price as long as you bought the rest of the set

Also, this makes no sense. It's like selling a GPU bracket for 500 and closing the deal with someone, only to suddenly say that you will sell the bracket at the agreed price, provided he buys your GPU as well for 30K.

 

[Tobikage]

If you had committed to a certain price/deal and then suddenly backtracked with the condition that the entire set has to be bought (a lower overall price being irrespective), then you are in the wrong, no two ways about it. Yes, you are absolutely entitled to change your mind but don't defend it.

Also, this makes no sense. It's like selling a GPU bracket for 500 and closing the deal with someone, only to suddenly say that you will sell the bracket at the agreed price, provided he buys your GPU as well for 30K.

I didn't say I was right either.

I'm absolutely not interested in selling it at a loss and getting stuck with the rest of the set by selling him 1/5 from the set.

I'm just keeping it instead of selling it now.

Seeing his reaction with loaded up words , I'm glad I didn't.

It's a set of 5.
It's more like asking for one RAM stick from a kit really.
Like I said...he's free to look elsewhere.

I'd welcome any action if any MODs / Admin feel this is severe enough so as not to....

let the fellow members suffer

 

[nRiTeCh]

I didn't say I was right either.

Then why brag and defend yourselves when there's no point doing so?

I'm absolutely not interested in selling it at a loss and getting stuck with the rest of the set by selling him 1/5 from the set.

It's a set of 5.

There was no loss at all as that opened alone car was an extra which you first revealed me for which we both agreed to mete and deal. While the other one extra which was unopened was fine to be sold with the set of 5. But you then wanted me to buy all 6 when I already had 4 of them. I still thought and went ahead for just a tiny bargain but thereafter no response from you.

More to that, you did cost me a deal outside just because I believed in you and thought you were committed on it the way things were going initially.

It's more like asking for one RAM stick from a kit really.

There you are, comparing a die-cast set with ram sticks itself shows you logical levels. Btw if you know, even single sticks sell and we sell it here..we got buyers and sellers as well with good record of successful deals!

As I said earlier, if you know how to sell this stuff or if had taken my advise I could have helped you get rid of your inventory at real good prices but your greed prevailed..

And yes I will definitely get the stuff elsewhere may be late and at whatever prices but from buyers who dont back out from their commitments and those who aren't greedy!
The sole regret with you is about loosing trust, playing with hopes and feelings, wasting my valuable time and costing my other deal believing in you!

Anyways, I'm out of this discussion!

 

[Black_Hawk]

I didn't say I was right either.

I'm absolutely not interested in selling it at a loss and getting stuck with the rest of the set by selling him 1/5 from the set.

I'm just keeping it instead of selling it now.

Seeing his reaction with loaded up words , I'm glad I didn't.

It's a set of 5.
It's more like asking for one RAM stick from a kit really.
Like I said...he's free to look elsewhere.

I'd welcome any action if any MODs / Admin feel this is severe enough so as not to....

This is the interesting part. Did you mention to @nRiTeCh BEFORE the two of you met that you were NOT interested in selling the single car out of the set of 5? Or did you change your mind at the meet and then told him that you will ONLY sell the cars as a set of 5.

Also, @nRiTeCh mentions in his post that you actually possess two of the cars he wanted and one could have been spared and the other kept with the set in packed condition. Is that true? It appears he was under the impression that he would be paying 399/- bucks and you later quoted him 5.5k for the entire 5-car set... that's a big jump!

What has happened here is really sad. I still think you guys can drop the entire bad blood and come to a good deal. At the end of the day it's a hobby and the enjoyment of such. For us blokes who invest time and money into inculcating the hobbies we have and pursue we know what this means.

 

[PunkX 75]

I didn't say I was right either.

I'm absolutely not interested in selling it at a loss and getting stuck with the rest of the set by selling him 1/5 from the set.

I'm just keeping it instead of selling it now.

Seeing his reaction with loaded up words , I'm glad I didn't.

It's a set of 5.
It's more like asking for one RAM stick from a kit really.
Like I said...he's free to look elsewhere.

I'd welcome any action if any MODs / Admin feel this is severe enough so as not to....

You're absolutely within your rights to sell what and how you want but don't commit to something, change your mind suddenly, and then defend it.

What you did was a little scummy (if what has been said is true) and you should maintain seller principles moving forward.

As far as his reaction goes, it's justified. Hobbyists take their art very seriously, and it's expensive to maintain. Your actions also lost him a deal elsewhere. Again, principles.

 

[Tobikage]

What you did was a little scummy

Let's call it that then.

Also, @nRiTeCh mentions in his post that you actually possess two of the cars he wanted and one could have been spared and the other kept with the set in packed condition. Is that true?

I have two sets.
And I had told him I'd have to check how many sets or cars I had first and then we could make a deal once everything is finalized.

One set of 5 is unopened which I'm not selling unless someone pays me market value.

The other set of 5 of which only one car is open which he was looking for.

For the open car (only as part of the set) I was asking MRP like I had promised him and the remaining 4 cars of that set I was asking that he pay a little less than market value since he would be buying a whole set when he needed only one car.
But only as a package as I don't want to be left with 4 remaining cars and one missing car that's the hardest to find.

That set of 5 sells for upto 8k still.
I was asking 5.5k slightly nego and he was offering my 4.5k.
An amount of 1k is not negotiable and I told him to look elsewhere.

What I was offering him was a decent enough deal at a decent enough price.
If he's still asking me to lower the price , then I'm not really interested at that point.

He's free to continue doing whatever name calling he wants to do.

Hobbyists take their art very seriously, and it's expensive to maintain.

Tell me about it....I have 600 odd models....

Anyways moving on from that....

 

[Black_Hawk]

Let's call it that then.

I have two sets.
And I had told him I'd have to check how many sets or cars I had first and then we could make a deal once everything is finalized.

One set of 5 is unopened which I'm not selling unless someone pays me market value.

The other set of 5 of which only one car is open which he was looking for.

For the open car (only as part of the set) I was asking MRP like I had promised him and the remaining 4 cars of that set I was asking that he pay a little less than market value since he would be buying a whole set when he needed only one car.
But only as a package as I don't want to be left with 4 remaining cars and one missing car that's the hardest to find.

That set of 5 sells for upto 8k still.
I was asking 5.5k slightly nego and he was offering my 4.5k.
An amount of 1k is not negotiable and I told him to look elsewhere.

What I was offering him was a decent enough deal at a decent enough price.
If he's still asking me to lower the price , then I'm not really interested at that point.

He's free to continue doing whatever name calling he wants to do.


Tell me about it....I have 600 odd models....

Anyways moving on from that....

All you say is valid and you are free to price your products as per your wish for selling them...

HOWEVER,

Did you at any point prior to meeting up tell @nRiTeCh that you will sell the particular car he wanted from the opened set even if he didn't want to buy the rest of the cars in that open box set? Or were you crystal clear from the get go that you will ONLY and ONLY sell all the cars as a set (open box or not) and won't part with individual cars singularly?

I'm asking this because from what he has written it appears that prior to you guys meeting you DID tell him that you are going to sell him that particular car (and ONLY that single car) he wanted from the open box set even if he was not looking to buy the remaining 4 cars in that set and then changed your mind after the meet up asking him to take all 5 cars (the entire set).

 

[Tobikage]

your mind after the meet up

There was no meet up.
He was interested in other cars (same F&F theme) I had besides that one car or besides that one set of 5.

I was going to drop them off at his location after we had decided on which other ones he wanted and agreed on a parice besides just that one particular car.

I had mentioned that I would need to check the rest of my collection for the rest of the cars and sets and he could have the open one at MRP (if it was a spare which it was) as discussed on day one.

But as it turns out I have one entire set spare (open car being a part of that) which I will not part out for one car.
Especially if I'm already selling it at less than market
value.

I wasn't interested in making a profit so I was willing to sell that one open car at MRP so he could complete his diorama.
But when someone says "make a deal at less than MRP because I'm buying in bulk" I lose interest.
All of the cars he's interested in change hands at multiple times the MRP and he knows that as well.

End of discussion as far as I'm concerned now.

 

[ashish]

I'm absolutely not interested in selling it at a loss and getting stuck with the rest of the set by selling him 1/5 from the set.

Why didn't you decided this before agreeing on selling the single car earlier?

I'm just keeping it instead of selling it now.

Seeing his reaction with loaded up words , I'm glad I didn't.

His reactions are natural for anyone. Anyone would have reacted the exact same way.

It's a set of 5.
It's more like asking for one RAM stick from a kit really.
Like I said...he's free to look elsewhere.

Ya good excuse lines to cover up your unfair dealing or greediness. And you comparing a ram kit with a toy set common man. Ram kits also get sold for loose around.

You're absolutely within your rights to sell what and how you want but don't commit to something, change your mind suddenly, and then defend it.

What you did was a little scummy (if what has been said is true) and you should maintain seller principles moving forward.

As far as his reaction goes, it's justified. Hobbyists take their art very seriously, and it's expensive to maintain. Your actions also lost him a deal elsewhere. Again, principles.

Absolutely!

There was no meet up.
He was interested in other cars (same F&F theme) I had besides that one car or besides that one set of 5.

I was going to drop them off at his location after we had decided on which other ones he wanted and agreed on a parice besides just that one particular car.

I had mentioned that I would need to check the rest of my collection for the rest of the cars and sets and he could have the open one at MRP (if it was a spare which it was) as discussed on day one.

But as it turns out I have one entire set spare (open car being a part of that) which I will not part out for one car.
Especially if I'm already selling it at less than market
value.

I wasn't interested in making a profit so I was willing to sell that one open car at MRP so he could complete his diorama.
But when someone says "make a deal at less than MRP because I'm buying in bulk" I lose interest.
All of the cars he's interested in change hands at multiple times the MRP and he knows that as well.

End of discussion as far as I'm concerned now.

If you both already agreed on 399 then you should have gone with that deal first. But forcing him to buy all 5 is obviously not a viable decision.
There's a huge difference between 400 and 5.5k and when he already has those 3-4 cars why will he even waste money buying them again? Its your insecurity of not getting sold those cars is why you seemed to change the deal and obviously its will be a setback for anyone in this world. You could have sold those cars individually as well.

And even after this he agreed to buy all the cars for a bit of a bargain but you went wrong by not responding to him.
You were actually wrong on multiple occasions here. Lack of ethics tbh.

And it does seem you wanted to play it all your ways and deal never works one sided esp. when you have totally changed the deals dimensions altogether.
Being a customer I can relate how it feels.
You should had decided that initially itself what and how you want to sell your stuff & this situation wouldn't have arose.

Its as simple as someone agrees to sell me his processor and then tries to dump his entire rig on me citing similar nonsense reasons.

 

[Tobikage]

You were actually wrong on multiple occasions here. Lack of ethics tbh.

Thanks for your input.

I don't see any reason to continue this discussion here.

 

[Fenix]

So new recruits cannot post on classifieds. Great decision - first contribute to the community and then start selling!

 

[Black_Hawk]

Thanks for your input.

I don't see any reason to continue this discussion here.

I hope people here take heed and not indulge this user by buying stuff from him. Complete lack of ethics, greed and just general lack of respect in honoring his word is very evident from his posts and words.

@nRiTeCh : I hope you find the model of car you are looking for from a better, legit source and can complete your diorama soon my friend.

 

[nRiTeCh]

I hope people here take heed and not indulge this user by buying stuff from him. Complete lack of ethics, greed and just general lack of respect in honoring his word is very evident from his posts and words.

@nRiTeCh : I hope you find the model of car you are looking for from a better, legit source and can complete your diorama soon my friend.

Hey pal, my diorama is already complete even before this crap kicked in, in fact its over populated when you will get to see it this weekend. I obviously got pissed off on loosing a fair deal elsewhere.
The world is a big place to find our stuffs but again is a time consuming task and so my hunt continues..
I will tag you once I upload.