So none of us will speak about what happened in kashmir today

We cut the water supply in 2019 as well . Do not read too much into the news .
Pak now already declared this as an act of war.
"Pakistan faces a grave situation should the Indus and two other rivers - Jhelum and Chenab - which flow into the country be diverted or stopped, with tens of millions of people getting affected. Pakistan already faces an acute water shortage and such a punishing move will likely cripple the state of Pakistan."
 
So killing 99% innocents for the 1% terrorists is the right way?
To do an israel is what, illegally occupying land and killing children because they were apparently used as shields?
I completely sympathize with the Phalgam attack, but bringing Israel into the context isn’t appropriate.
Hamas dug down near Civilian settlements
Hamas raped and killed hostages
Hamas used civilians and children as body shields when engaging with IDF
Hamas killed over 1200 people including women, children in Oct 7 attacks,

Like bro Netanyahu and his entire cabinet deserves to sent to the guillotine but don't ****ing pretend like Hamas is any better, but then you are the king of bad faith arguments when it comes to Israel.
o blaming Nehru and jumping without wearing pants at whatever Modi says is stupid .
blud, you do realize how ****ing ironic this statement is considering your recent posts? :tearsofjoy:
 
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So going by your theory...Pakistan ISI is working for BJP and lashkar e taiba and The resistance front and all these terror groups are taking orders from BJP and Modi.....sahi hai.

Modi toh jitna socha tha usse bhi aage nikla....Pura ISI ko control kar liya.
This guy's arguments are a joke without any base. Its easy to direct everything at the govt and tell its for votes; and shut eyes and ears and play in loop for every situation - escapism. No point in continuing as this won't ever end. Just chill!
 
but then you are the king of bad faith arguments when it comes to Israel.
Dafuq is that supposed to mean? I didn't know you were following me that you could know that. I'm not even that active in non-tech forums.
Also it's funny how you totally missed what I mentioned about illegal occupation. You have youtube, look up how the israel settlers force gazan people out of their homes with the help of Israel govt.

And tell me where I've mentioned Hamas was better than Israel?
If you go by the number of civilians killed, Israel has killed 60k vs 1.5k killed by Hamas, since Oct 7.
Number of injured is far higher and the number of displaced is unimaginable.
You shamelessly highlighted the number in bold of women and children killed by Israel, why don't you do the same for the number Israel has killed? Over 15k!
That's 1 child killed every 45 minutes in the last 550 days.

I dare you to read about Nakba, it's the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 1948 by Israel forces. Refer to wiki since it's neutral.
When the israel terrorists rape and kill the families in hundreds and thousands, what do you think the kids who survived this grow up to be? The feed on hatred for all that they've gone through and their only goal in life becomes revenge. They call themselves Hamas and the world only sees what they are now, not what caused them to be this.
The jews were also tortured far more horrendously by the Nazi and they grew up to be the terrorists they are now.
Except the world and people like yourself can tag Hamas as terrorist but even after far more atrocious war crimes you wouldn't call Israel military as terrorist. You're the king of bad faith when it comes to Palestinians.
 
Dafuq is that supposed to mean? I didn't know you were following me that you could know that. I'm not even that active in non-tech forums.
Also it's funny how you totally missed what I mentioned about illegal occupation. You have youtube, look up how the israel settlers force gazan people out of their homes with the help of Israel govt.

And tell me where I've mentioned Hamas was better than Israel?
If you go by the number of civilians killed, Israel has killed 60k vs 1.5k killed by Hamas, since Oct 7.
Number of injured is far higher and the number of displaced is unimaginable.
You shamelessly highlighted the number in bold of women and children killed by Israel, why don't you do the same for the number Israel has killed? Over 15k!
That's 1 child killed every 45 minutes in the last 550 days.

I dare you to read about Nakba, it's the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians in 1948 by Israel forces. Refer to wiki since it's neutral.
When the israel terrorists rape and kill the families in hundreds and thousands, what do you think the kids who survived this grow up to be? The feed on hatred for all that they've gone through and their only goal in life becomes revenge. They call themselves Hamas and the world only sees what they are now, not what caused them to be this.
The jews were also tortured far more horrendously by the Nazi and they grew up to be the terrorists they are now.
Except the world and people like yourself can tag Hamas as terrorist but even after far more atrocious war crimes you wouldn't call Israel military as terrorist. You're the king of bad faith when it comes to Palestinians.

By such logic on sheer number of attacks alone terrorism has a religion and it can be only one since barring one or two here or there all of them have been undertaken under the guidance of " peace be upon him"

And since when is wiki neutral, i can be the president of uganda come tomorrow.

Bro chill u might lose the war by winning the battle.
In a war the agressor is at fault always, it's his fault to target bigger enemy while being underprepared and under a burqa.
The number of people dead is merely a sad stat
 
there all of them have been undertaken under the guidance of " peace be upon him"
You must be special kind to believe that any of the teachings in islam pertain to such violence.
With 1.9Billion population if the teachings were violence and terrorism, wouldn't that make at least 1% violent? Nay.. at least 0.1%?

And since when is wiki neutral
Because it's moderated by the public and without actual proof the false edits/claims are removed. If it was controlled by a single org it wouldn't be so neutral would it?

By such logic on sheer number of attacks alone terrorism has a religion
World wars? Nazi? Israel? 9/11?, inside job. And pulwama attack was very conveniently right before the elections. I'm not saying there aren't violent people in islam, there are in every religion. I'm not pointing out the atrocities done by people in your religion and calling out it was teaching from your x number of Lords. So you don't get to do that either.

I can admit to Hamas being terrorist group and the probable reason why it was formed. But why can't you admit to Israel committing over 100x worse crimes than Hamas did? Because you're a hypocrite and have hatred towards 1 religion that's why.
 
Bois

This atrocity was committed to show that an evil org exists which wants to taunt us into committing the same as they did. We should not loose our cool because if US & Russia has proceeded during the Cuban missile crisis with mutually assured destruction we wouldn't be here now.
We need to isolate them in every way possible.

Diplomacy is the way forward or surgical strikes. Anything more than this will eventually lead to WW3 because everybody is already frustrated with tariff wars and they might engage in a different way.

Don't bring Israel into this. I highly doubt why China isn't talking about this atrocity in a condemnable way.

If we cross the tipping point there won't be anything to trade or bargain later. So we need to cool our nerves and isolate them in every way possible or surgical strikes on those terror camps will be enough I think.

Israel already gave west bank but it was Hamas who provoked them. Isreal retaliated and now look what happened to Gaza and its residents.

Should we do the same? Yes but it will end up starting WW3 or some limited scale war where China and its allies are itching to enter because it's tired with the US hegemony.

All will suffer in the end. So we have make pakis pay by asking the US and its allies to impose sanctions and likewise ask Russia and its allies like China to impose sanctions which will be a good reply I think.

If we want to satisfy the people then we can go for surgical strikes on terror camps located in Pok. This and sanctions will be a befitting reply to their atrocity I think.
 
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All will suffer in the end. So we have make pakis pay by asking the US and its allies to impose sanctions and likewise ask Russia and its allies like China to impose sanctions which will be a good reply I think.
did you meant China will put sanctions on Pakistan? LOL.

Bhai they are allies very close strategic allies.
If any china may actually come to defend Pakistan.

the best option is to openly support Balochistan.
 
Don't know what to say about pak other than this

same propaganda has started spreading on IG, twitter since yesterday.
they knew if they killed women and kids then even the bbc like portals would not protect them. foreign nation news outlets calls them militant groups avoiding them to call terrorist group.
- point being they were going for this to be labeled as freedom fighters and now this confirms it! thanks for sharing it
 
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You must be special kind to believe that any of the teachings in islam pertain to such violence.
With 1.9Billion population if the teachings were violence and terrorism, wouldn't that make at least 1% violent?


World wars? Nazi? Israel? 9/11?, inside job. And pulwama attack was very conveniently right before the elections.
Most religious fanatical.orgs are funded by the west . Most fanatical leaders like Modi are also products of western training and they are installed as puppets to control their western hegemony ,influence and supermacy in their respective countries .
The west provides the necessary propaganda ,money to cause disruptions . Many a times the west has used its planes ,bases to airdrop mercenaries .
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Lot of them.were blaming opposition parties . Now rhe Congrwss has made it clear that they are with the govt if "any" action is being taken . joker bhakts keep.complainig about the opposition politicising ,colluding with Pakistan ,colludinv with China . End of the day Modi will milk the terror attack in his elecrion speeches until.elections are over and then everyone will forget about it .
 
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But where the government did colossally **** up is screwing up recruitment and not maintaining army equipment/upgrading to latest gen fighters/tech.
Alas! This will be us for the next 1000 years. But no surprises there since we only care about cricket and bollywood.
We won't be able to do anything when a country bigger and more powerful than Pakistan attacks us. We'll be sitting ducks and only churn out PRs and PRs and condemnation after condemnation because that would be the only thing which our govt and mighty officials would be capable of. I sadly have no hope for this country even though I love it.
End of the day Modi will milk the terror attack in his elecrion speeches until.elections are over and then everyone will forget about it .
This will happen. This is why I said what I said in my first post here. Pulwama anyone?
Welcome to politics everyone!
 
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May be I am short sighted ,but the way Modi and his ministers spin tales after an incident is that they blame everyone but themselves .Not 1 minister has taken responsibility and resigned .
They never do but opposition never stops demanding. Give it a rest. This government has a good track record when it comes to Stability & security. If despite everything something happens I'm not going to blame them.

Why aren't you blaming the other side btw? Aren't they the ones responsible. What are your thoughts about them. They are still deluded that these attacks will bring us to the negotiating table when Modi declared at the outset that talks and terrorism don't go together.

I am also.pointing out that the govt is no good at a long game of cat and mouse or maintainig deterrence .
Things have improved a lot in the last twenty years. And there is no daylight between major parties on this topic because both suffered major attacks during their tenure.
If rhe govt does not give green light does it not point out to an inept ,inefficient ,useless ministry and govt in question ?
Don't understand what you mean here.

I said...

Under Trump such actions by GoI on Pakistan will get his green light by default.

As happened in 2019 and expressed by then NSA John Bolton that India has a right to self defense
 
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