Current Affairs Israel attacks Iran.

[TEUser2K1]

Go read your Reuters article for that answer

Irrespective of whether source is reuters, cnn or foxnews, if such facility and infra is demolished, radiation leak have to happen.
Reuters article says: "WHY ARE GULF STATES ESPECIALLY WORRIED?" since their water desalination plants are near by.
One have to have believable reports.

 

[blr_p]

Good that you're a Trump Supporter. How do you address this:

Trump once called Jan. 6 a 'heinous attack.' Now he calls it a 'day of love.'

The former president has increasingly defended his supporters who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, most recently referring to them as "we."

www.nbcnews.com

See the date of your article. He's not going to attack his supporters just before the election. Is he.

Why does it matter? He won. All the democrat charges now vanish.

A comic - I agree

And now a president with more balls than the last two put together. And he's not even six months into his presidency.

As an "excellent communicator"

He speaks to a demographic that is lower income. They get him and when you follow his rallies you understand why.

 

[DigitalDude]

Some of you are relying too much on the mainstream media who have the lowest trust and credibility... even far lower then the politicians and bureaucrats.

It is very sad.

 

[PunkX 75]

You have done what is typical of those who oppose. Listen to third commentary instead of listening to the man himself.

You do realize that opinions are formed out of "listening to the man himself." It's good that you admire him. Most don't. Does almost all of the populace account for "third-rate" or is your opinion gospel?

When you have an entire Wikipedia page dedicated to his BS, it's something. Unbecoming of a "good communicator", or maybe I missed the memo?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

 

[blr_p]

Irrespective of whether source is reuters, cnn or foxnews, if such facility and infra is demolished, radiation leak have to happen.

Go and read the article. Then go and read the one I posted.

Reuters article says: "WHY ARE GULF STATES ESPECIALLY WORRIED?" since their water desalination plants are near by.
One have to have believable reports.

It's an unsubstantiated fear with no basis that only the uninformed and dim people believe.

 

[PunkX 75]

He speaks to a demographic that is lower income.

Sure.

Trump’s Boasts About His Wealth Just Helped Him Lose $83 Million

Donald Trump’s own words about the size of his fortune were used against him in the E. Jean Carroll trial.

www.vice.com

 

[blr_p]

You do realize that opinions are formed out of "listening to the man himself."

Had you listened to his speech you would not have misunderstood what he said. It was obvious the way you framed it in your opener.

They manipulate what he says. That's why he bashes them constantly and they absolutely deserve it. When it comes to Trump or Modi for that matter, always check what they say.

And then see the mental gymnastics to twist it. Or don't bother. I just follow his twitter feed.

It's good that you admire him. Most don't.

what good are those people when he's in charge. They are just noise makers.

The part I like is his foreign picy as that has a direct effect on us. Domestic isn't my business.

Do almost all of the populace account for "third-rate" or is your opinion gospel?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1936192849495937342

All of the populace? Nah

Is not about my opinion. He's in charge. He makes things happen.

I always support the government in charge for that reason. Didn't you know that. I don't waste time with what the opposition thinks or says.

What does the government want and what is its intent. That is what history will talk about.

When you have an entire Wikipedia page dedicated to his BS, it's something.

I'm interested in his achievements. Those are the money shots.

Start bashing, I'm walking. No time for that.

 

[PunkX 75]

Is not about my opinion.

With all due respect and a bit OT (I apologize)

While you do quote sources and have very good insights, you have a propensity to drag the narrative to what you feel is right (when it comes to politics). There is always a caveat and another side to the coin.


And before you reply with something along the lines of "I debunk everything with facts."

No offense meant, just something to consider.

Your points, while very valid, also have valid opposing arguments.

Start bashing, I'm walking. No time for that.

This is another point of contention that's been the growing feeling with your discussions - "It's my way or the highway."

 

[blr_p]

With all due respect and a bit OT (I apologize)

While you do quote sources and have very good insights, you have a propensity to drag the narrative to what you feel is right (when it comes to politics). There is always a caveat and another side to the coin.

That is true for everything but who decides in this case?

What does history record.

And since we are in a democracy and have accountable governments this is what was acceptable.

I'm not getting into right. That's a different point.

And before you reply with something along the lines of "I debunk everything with facts."

No offense meant, just something to consider.

Your points, while very valid, also have valid opposing arguments.

Nothing to debunk other than follow the boss. Because right is what he says it is. Disagree will get you fired.

The example I follow here is the military. They don't question. They know the system and follow orders.

When you are discuss policy with bureaucrat, diplomacy or military you have to know what the governments policy on the subject concerned.

Liking the government is optional.

 

[PunkX 75]

Nothing to debunk other than follow the boss. Because right is what he says it is. Disagree will get you fired.

Well, that's an opinion. Many will disagree, and may not share your view of getting "fired" - in any sphere.

This statement juxtaposes your stance of "we are in a democracy."

It sounds more like North Korea.

Liking the government is optional.

Irrelevant here. Liking or disliking a Government is moot. It does not make them impervious to criticism.

 

[TEUser2K1]

It's an unsubstantiated fear with no basis that only the uninformed and dim people believe.

I read the article you posted: https://thebulletin.org/2025/06/the...r-program-with-or-without-a-strike-on-fordow/
"although toxic chemicals and radiological contaminants may have been dispersed inside some of these facilities, including at the underground Natanz enrichment plant.":
"According to Grossi, no increase in radiation levels was measured outside of the damaged facilities"

How does contaminants gets contained inside a facility which is bombed to oblivioun ? Difficult to believe that Grossi, blr_p.
The last two paras also add more to the confusion.
Is it just sweet radiating propaganda because attack is by the bestest country in the world, or does not actually matter. This Grossi does not impress with such silly gross statements.

Bushehr is one to look out. But the Israelis will have planned for this. They are not going to cause another chernobyl

Lets hope so.

Only other possibility is nuclear material is secure with Iranian forces, so USA attack didn't change the overall situation much.

Russia's Medvedev: Countries to arm Iran with nuclear warheads | The Jerusalem Post

Medvedev suggested that the United States’ attacks on three sites in Isfahan, Natanz, and Fordow backfired, and led to the opposite result from what US President Donald Trump had set out to achieve.

www.jpost.com

 

[bssunilreddy]

I read the article you posted: https://thebulletin.org/2025/06/the...r-program-with-or-without-a-strike-on-fordow/
"although toxic chemicals and radiological contaminants may have been dispersed inside some of these facilities, including at the underground Natanz enrichment plant.":
"According to Grossi, no increase in radiation levels was measured outside of the damaged facilities"

How does contaminants gets contained inside a facility which is bombed to oblivioun ? Difficult to believe that Grossi, blr_p.
The last two paras also add more to the confusion.
Is it just sweet radiating propaganda because attack is by the bestest country in the world, or does it actually matter. This Grossi does not impress with such silly gross statements.

Lets hope so.

Only other possibility is nuclear material is secure with Iranian forces, so USA attack didn't change the situation much.

If US attack didn't result in destruction of the facility or its contents then Iran will speed up the process of making a nuke and use it on any of its adversaries which will ultimately bring WW3. So this is the 1st chain of events.
I am not saying not to destroy their facilities but should do it completely.

 

[imad7x]

US: "We bombed your nuclear facilities and attacked you first but you should make peace"
F**king hypocrite degenerate ruling the most powerful country in the world.

Hey, North Korea has nuclear weapons and is holding an entire country as hostage, go to war with them. - Oh right! No oil.

Israel has 90-400 warheads, has viilated more International Laws than any other country, HAS NOT SIGNED THE Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons! Why do they get to do whatever the fck they want, kill any number of civilians, scientists, media, wake up and decide to bomb a country out of the blue? What's the point of UN and International Laws if US and Israel can bully whomsoever they want for their profits.

It's a deranged world we live in.

 

[solo_wing]

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US: "We bombed your nuclear facilities and attacked you first but you should make peace"
F**king hypocrite degenerate ruling the most powerful country in the world.

Hey, North Korea has nuclear weapons and is holding an entire country as hostage, go to war with them. - Oh right! No oil.

Israel has 90-400 warheads, has viilated more International Laws than any other country, HAS NOT SIGNED THE Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons! Why do they get to do whatever the fck they want, kill any number of civilians, scientists, media, wake up and decide to bomb a country out of the blue? What's the point of UN and International Laws if US and Israel can bully whomsoever they want for their profits.

It's a deranged world we live in.

We live in a hypocrite world.
No words or agreements or deals between govt. Can be taken for granted.

They may back off when it stops favoring them.

China gets to do whatever they can with Muslims in Ughyur but not a single voice from Islamic Countries. Turkey and Iran and Pakistan which will keep calling out India on a single incident on minority ..said nothing ...did nothing against China Ughyur human rights abuse.

You see no one cares actually about others as long as it favours them.

The reasons why I am bringing this up is we should accept that we are on our own as a country and we should think of our own interests today and build our own country powerful enough to not be bullied.

 

[yugaaa]

If that is true the Israelis will find it. And then what. Iran has no capability to refine it further or make more. The strike has set the program back anywhere from 5 to 20 years.

Go read your Reuters article for that answer

Their partners will. It is completely ludicrous to suggest that.

People are upset I get that and make up all sorts of shit.

One must be naive to think the strikes would set back the program by 5 to 20 years . This Iran has WMD propaganda has been going on for a long time and I do not see how Iran has not made an actual bomb in all these years or they have not yet started the process of making a bomb .

When the Americans bombed those sites no radiation leak was noticed . So it means that either the bombing was ineffective and the bombs never reached the bunkers or there was no nuclear enriched material . It is as simple as that .

 

[blr_p]

One must be naive to think the strikes would set back the program by 5 to 20 years .

Not naive. Quite realistic.5 years is the most pessimistic and 20 is the most optimistic.

With what are they going to process uranium into weapons grade?

All their centrifuges in Fordo are gone. So to put something together like that again is going to take time.

Also consider Iran isn’t integrated with the world scientific community like say China so losing key personnel isn’t something they can easily replace.

This Iran has WMD propaganda has been going on for a long time and I do not see how Iran has not made an actual bomb in all these years

That is one possibility but it's of low probability. Given how effectively Mossad penetrated the system they would have an idea as to the possibilities.

When the Americans bombed those sites no radiation leak was noticed . So it means that either the bombing was ineffective and the bombs never reached the bunkers or there was no nuclear enriched material . It is as simple as that .

This is ignorant reasoning. That there is no leak is good news and means the attack went like clockwork.

Read the the Reuters and Bulletin article I posted.
Have you forgotten the Israelis shut down the nuclear programs of Iraq & Syria. So they have a clue of how to successfully go about it.

Nobody was crying about any radiation leak in either case. So why all this confusion now?

Just more FUD by interested parties who can't accept reality.

 

[TEUser2K1]

Trump Says Iran Nuclear Sites "Obliterated". Satellite Pics Raise Questions

Trump's decision to order US forces to attack three key Iranian nuclear installations may have sabotaged the Islamic Republic's known atomic capabilities, but it's also created a monumental new challenge to work out what's left and where.

www.ndtv.com

They also show that a large support building on the Fordow site, which operators may use to control ventilation for the underground enrichment halls, remained undamaged. There were no radiation releases from the site, the IAEA reported.
New pictures of Natanz show a new crater about 5.5 meters (18 feet) in diameter. Maxar said in a statement that the new hole was visible in the dirt directly over a part of the underground enrichment facility. The image doesn't offer conclusive evidence that the attack breached the underground site, buried 40 meters under ground and reinforced with an 8-meter think concrete and steel shell.

Report Flags "Unusual Activity" In Satellite Pics Of Iran Nuclear Site

Commercial satellite imagery indicates the US attack on Iran's Fordow nuclear plant severely damaged - and possibly destroyed - the deeply-buried site and the uranium-enriching centrifuges it housed, but there was no confirmation.

www.ndtv.com

A senior Iranian source told Reuters on Sunday most of the near weapons-grade 60% highly enriched uranium had been moved to an undisclosed location before the U.S. attack.
"My big fear right now is that they take this entire program underground, not physically underground, but under the radar," he told NBC News. "Where we tried to stop it, there is a possibility that this could accelerate it."
"The world is going to be in the dark about what Iran may be doing," said Daryl Kimball, executive director of the Arms Control Association advocacy group.

And this is the end result ?

Many Nations Ready To Supply Iran With Their Nuclear Warheads: Top Putin Aide

Iran Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi will reportedly meet Russian President Vladimir Putin tomorrow, amid escalating tensions in the Middle East.

www.ndtv.com

 

[psyph3r]