Current Affairs Israel attacks Iran.

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No, the graph suggests that internet went down last Friday

I can give you proof of my chat with a Iranian friend on Friday , sat and sunday . So I am pretty sure the cellular service was up and working .
I am guessing the videos can get distributed on Whatsapp , tiktok etc .
Yes , they do tend to use VPN at times for whatsapp .

 

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Not a complete shutdown so government was working but everyone else was not

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937248664524656751

TCI must be their BSNL equivalent

Iran's Internet: A Censys Perspective

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I can give you proof of my chat with a Iranian friend on Friday , sat and sunday . So I am pretty sure the cellular service was up and working .
I am guessing the videos can get distributed on Whatsapp , tiktok etc .
Yes , they do tend to use VPN at times for whatsapp .

You can see all the Iranian ISPS there. Show that graph to your friends and ask them if it's accurate

 

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Not a complete shutdown so government was working but everyone else was not

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937248664524656751

TCI must be their BSNL equivalent

Iran's Internet: A Censys Perspective

censys.com

You can see all the Iranian ISPS there. Show that graph to your friends and ask them if it's accurate

My friend is an actor . He does not know any shit about ISP or Internet . He uses VPN to call at times when the call does not go through . Beyond that he is as knowledgeable as much as Trump is about with the current Iran and Israel conflict . .

 

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So I guess we also can buy oil now.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937505172143448428

 

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Oil Prices Tumble as Trump Announces Iran-Israel Ceasefire | OilPrice.com

Oil prices fell sharply on Monday after President Trump announced a ceasefire between Iran and Israel, easing geopolitical tensions and shifting market focus back to supply-demand fundamentals.

oilprice.com

Provided the ceasefire endures.

 

[TEUser2K1]

So I guess we also can buy oil now.

China's railway reached Iran few days bank, so there will be huge change in the market.
Fears Over Iran's Missing 400kg Of Uranium. Enough To Make 10 Nukes, Says US
There are reports Iran may have moved the stockpile days before the attack to a secret location, a claim repeated by Israeli officials to The New York Times.

Fears Over Iran's Missing 400kg Of Uranium. Enough To Make 10 Nukes, Says US

A 400kg stockpile of uranium - enough to make up to 10 nuclear weapons, US Vice President JD Vance told American broadcaster ABC - is unaccounted for after Washington dropped six 'bunker busters' on three Iranian nuclear facilities last week.

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This is so predictable, don't know what's the point of all these attacks...
"The missing uranium - seen as a powerful bargaining chip for Iran, whenever it opts to resume talks with the US on a new nuclear deal - is enriched to 60 per cent. It needs to be enriched to about 90 per cent to be used as a nuclear weapon..."
According to Rafael Grossi, chief of the IAEA - the International Atomic Energy Agency, a global nuclear watchdog - it had been last inspected a week before Israel's first attack on Iran. Last week Grossi told the United Nations Security Council it is "essential" the IAEA resumes inspections as soon as possible.
He also warned the world that continued military escalation delays this "indispensable work" and degrades chances of a diplomatic solution to keep Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.
The missing uranium - seen as a powerful bargaining chip for Iran, whenever it opts to resume talks with the US on a new nuclear deal - is enriched to 60 per cent. It needs to be enriched to about 90 per cent to be used as a nuclear weapon.

 

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China's railway reached Iran few days bank, so there will be huge change in the market.

Cost of shipping over land vs by sea

Yes?

These land corridors are fine if you are a land locked country. Of course China will say but its strategic. Yeah at a much higher cost and only in a contingency.

Fears Over Iran's Missing 400kg Of Uranium. Enough To Make 10 Nukes, Says US
There are reports Iran may have moved the stockpile days before the attack to a secret location, a claim repeated by Israeli officials to The New York Times.

Fears Over Iran's Missing 400kg Of Uranium. Enough To Make 10 Nukes, Says US

A 400kg stockpile of uranium - enough to make up to 10 nuclear weapons, US Vice President JD Vance told American broadcaster ABC - is unaccounted for after Washington dropped six 'bunker busters' on three Iranian nuclear facilities last week.

www.ndtv.com

Without any centrifuges what can they do with it?

Absolutely nothing and that UF6 is pretty toxic and needs careful handling.

don't know what's the point of all these attacks...

End the clandestine nuclear program.

Pending a damage assessment report I think we're good. Trump would not be boasting otherwise.

"The missing uranium - seen as a powerful bargaining chip for Iran, whenever it opts to resume talks with the US on a new nuclear deal - is enriched to 60 per cent. It needs to be enriched to about 90 per cent to be used as a nuclear weapon..."

And how do you go from 60 to 90 without centrifuges?

It's not a bargaining chip. Unless it's surrendered no sanctions relief. Iran has no leverage. They have lost their last Ace.

According to Rafael Grossi, chief of the IAEA - the International Atomic Energy Agency, a global nuclear watchdog - it had been last inspected a week before Israel's first attack on Iran. Last week Grossi told the United Nations Security Council it is "essential" the IAEA resumes inspections as soon as possible.

Attack happened because it went missing.

He also warned the world that continued military escalation delays this "indispensable work" and degrades chances of a diplomatic solution to keep Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons.

They have been trying for over a decade with diplomatic solution and got taken for fools. Nothing was working.

So the stick came out. And it required a president with the balls to wield it.

The missing uranium - seen as a powerful bargaining chip for Iran, whenever it opts to resume talks with the US on a new nuclear deal - is enriched to 60 per cent. It needs to be enriched to about 90 per cent to be used as a nuclear weapon.

Nah

 

[TEUser2K1]

Cost of shipping over land vs by sea
Yes?

Nobody have to teach logistics to China, they definitely know how to handle this so better than others.
The route will be utilized by all countries along the way for all kind of transport, not just directly for China alone.

Without any centrifuges what can they do with it?
Absolutely nothing and that UF6 is pretty toxic and needs careful handling.

Oh, remember someone saying UF6 is nothing to be worried about, some Grossi, this, that...

Attack happened because it went missing.

Do you think it's going to be so easy ? Current situation make it look tad difficult.

So the stick came out. And it required a president with the balls to wield it.

It's giving a balls over brains vibe now.

It's not a bargaining chip. Unless it's surrendered no sanctions relief. Iran has no leverage. They have lost their last Ace.

Nah

As for bargaining part, this news-byte is exactly as per my expectations, as of now. Is the same Grossi you quoted earlier giving the idea, so... Let's see.

 

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Nobody have to teach logistics to China, they definitely know how to handle this so better than others.
The route will be utilized by all countries along the way for all kind of transport, not just directly for China alone.

I'm trying to figout what the purpose is. Other than in a contingency I'm not seeing much use for it.

The central Asian republics it passes through export energy. Pipe line works better than train and there are plenty of pipelines from there to China already.

China wants energy from Iran. Oil tankers are the cheapest way. If China wants to send goods then container shipping works for that.

Oh, remember someone saying UF6 is nothing to be worried about, some Grossi, this, that...

Right, hand it over is what he wants.

It's worthless in its current state to Iran and it's their ticket out.

Do you think it's going to be so easy ? Current situation make it look tad difficult.

The strike on Sunday is what I meant. IAEA reports missing enriched uranium. By the weekend the bombs come.

It's giving a balls over brains vibe now.

What are the results

Ended the nuclear program
Got a cease fire

I don't know what will happen tomorrow but as of this moment we're good.

 

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I'm trying to figout what the purpose is. Other than in a contingency I'm not seeing much use for it. China wants energy from Iran. Oil tankers are the cheapest way. If China wants to send goods then container shipping works for that.

First Freight Train From China Wheels Into Iran, Flying In The Face Of American Sanctions (29th May 2025)

HISTORIC! First Freight Train From China Wheels Into Iran, Flying In The Face Of American Sanctions

In what could only be termed as a geopolitical coup, the first freight train from China rolled into Iran this week. Flying in the face of the US sanctions aimed at crippling Tehran’s oil trade and isolating Beijing, the rail line will not only boost trade between the two countries, but would...

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Oil tanker ships will be longer route, China's dependency on USA allies in ME region, etc. needs to be considered.
Giving lot of importance both for China and countries en-route, call this as freedom from USA dependency.
Logistics may ensure the route will be utilized by other countries who may pay China, China and the countries in between can utilize the tracks for their own material logistics, etc.

It's worthless in its current state to Iran and it's their ticket out.

Iranians are known to be touch negotiators.

Ended the nuclear program
Got a cease fire

Not so fast, will have to wait to see how it works out.
Cease fire too looks like a partial embarrassment to those involved.

I don't know what will happen tomorrow but as of this moment we're good.

This I fully agree.
The sentiment is here, Who won the war: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...ay-untouched-either/articleshow/122051348.cms

 

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US leaked document say Iran only pushed few months back.

 

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Fears Over Iran's Missing 400kg Of Uranium. Enough To Make 10 Nukes, Says US

Prob just a made up story. They need an excuse to continue the war.

At this point, I won't trust any news. From either side.

Prob just a made up story. They need an excuse to continue the war.

At this point, I won't trust any news. From either side.

This is also good news for Iran. Opens the door for some black market purchases.

 

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Prob just a made up story. They need an excuse to continue the war.

I agree.
there is a good chance Iran Israel war will get reignited and US will find excuse to go for full fledge war.

 

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I agree.
there is a good chance Iran Israel war will get reignited and US will find excuse to go for full fledge war.

Don't think so . Like I was saying earlier the B52 bomber could barely scratch the surface . I am also led to believe that the US warned Iran before hand and let them move out same way the Iranians warned the Americans about their attack in Qatar and Iraq .
Israel is done for now . They do not have the necessary munitions , they now know their Iron dome cannot cope with a barrage of hundreds of missiles aimed at them and Israel cannot fight on multiple fronts with just 90 Lakh people . 90 lakh people in India is just about a small district in India . They can have short successes but a full fledged long war , they cannot .
If they want a full fledged war then they would be surrounded by Yemen , Lebanon , Syria who will jump into the war .
US is also similar like Israel . They can do ariel bombings or from sea . They cannot and will not have boots on the ground . Especially with the American public being vocal about fighting non-existent wars , politicians who oppose war ,it would be a hard time .

I'm trying to figout what the purpose is. Other than in a contingency I'm not seeing much use for it.

The central Asian republics it passes through export energy. Pipe line works better than train and there are plenty of pipelines from there to China already.

China wants energy from Iran. Oil tankers are the cheapest way. If China wants to send goods then container shipping works for that.

Right, hand it over is what he wants.

It's worthless in its current state to Iran and it's their ticket out.

The strike on Sunday is what I meant. IAEA reports missing enriched uranium. By the weekend the bombs come.

What are the results

Ended the nuclear program
Got a cease fire

I don't know what will happen tomorrow but as of this moment we're good.

Purpose is transit time .China is not bothered about oil . It is bothered about reducing time from 40 days shipment time to 2 weeks for its goods to reach Europe . China is a manufacturing country and they need to sell their goods . With ME constantly at war , freight rates getting costlier , it makes sense to build railways to move cargo . From China to Europe it would take longer than to transport by rail .
Landlocked countries which are not accessible by sea now have a chance for direct acccess . all the stan countries which the rail road covers all the way upto Europe is easy to access .

 

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Don't think so . Like I was saying earlier the B52 bomber could barely scratch the surface . I am also led to believe that the US warned Iran before hand and let them move out same way the Iranians warned the Americans about their attack in Qatar and Iraq .
Israel is done for now . They do not have the necessary munitions , they now know their Iron dome cannot cope with a barrage of hundreds of missiles aimed at them and Israel cannot fight on multiple fronts with just 90 Lakh people . 90 lakh people in India is just about a small district in India . They can have short successes but a full fledged long war , they cannot .
If they want a full fledged war then they would be surrounded by Yemen , Lebanon , Syria who will jump into the war .
US is also similar like Israel . They can do ariel bombings or from sea . They cannot and will not have boots on the ground . Especially with the American public being vocal about fighting non-existent wars , politicians who oppose war ,it would be a hard time .

Hmmm..
Let see how this goes from here.

Iran will want nuclear much faster now than ever before.

 

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Prob just a made up story.

the IAEA is the party saying its missing like a week ago. Thier job is to keep track of things like this. So its not a made up story.

They need an excuse to continue the war.

If the goal is to end the program then this is it.

At this point, I won't trust any news. From either side.

I have no such problem. Only the Israeli pov matters here. This sort of moral equivalence is unwarranted.

This is also good news for Iran. Opens the door for some black market purchases.

No need for black market if things normalise.

 

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Prob just a made up story. They need an excuse to continue the war.

Everyone is betting for Iran to implode from within. Don't know how it's going to workout.

 

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Different country. Same BS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937689508247666931

Just like we experienced with the opposition here after Balakote.

Why? because no drone footage.

But with Op Sindoor it was there. So nobody questioned the statements.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937670159420023267

OK, so the damage assessment reports are in and from other countries too. The mission was a success.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937658354404647096

This is an accountable government like ours. Vulnerable if caught out.

Undermine the government is exactly right and that tells you which party is responsible.

The opposition is still going to make sh*t up because their job is to sow FUD.

 

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Different country. Same BS

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937689508247666931

Just like we experienced with the opposition here after Balakote.

Why? because no drone footage.

But with Op Sindoor it was there. So nobody questioned the statements.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937670159420023267

OK, so the damage assessment reports are in and from other countries too. The mission was a success.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937658354404647096

This is an accountable government like ours. Vulnerable if caught out.

Undermine the government is exactly right and that tells you which party is responsible.

The opposition is still going to make sh*t up because their job is to sow FUD.

What you are advocating is a free pass for any government .
Most opposition parties will not and do not oppose on matters of National concern or do politics .
Opposition parties will and should question the govt for accountability . Millions of dollars /lives are spent on a particular operation and if the operation is not useful then obviously questions will be asked and raised .
Balakote or Op sindoor the opposition did raise relevant questions . The ruling party uses the IT and Social media to effective dis inform the citizens about the aims and objectives of the opposition and confuses the average citizen . The retard sanghis will keep supporting until it hits them hard with more taxes , loss of savings .
The earlier govts never put up a clown show ,especially the PM dressing up in various military attires , raising the frenzy and finally end up being a damp squib when Trump asked to have a ceasefire . The PM has never held a press meet or answered anything of substance on the opposition allegations in the parliament till date . The same PM when he was the chief minister of Gujarat rushed to Mumbai , a neighbouring state and held press conferences after the Mumbai terrorist attacks . Till date we do not know how much of Indian territory China has occupied . 1 minister says China has occupied Indian soil and another minister says Chinese never had any sort of incursions . The PM does not even care to respond and starts off with his stupid rhetoric about opposition being anti -national .
The govt has become too opaque , does not agree to a JPC to discuss arms procurement , JPC on how 4 terrorists got into Pahlgam and where they escaped to .

Everyone is betting for Iran to implode from within. Don't know how it's going to workout.

Yes , the women are particularly not happy . The men are divided and fear the govt . Right now , the govt is clearing up the traitors who helped the Israelis to come into Iran with the support of the locals . The manhunt is huge is what I have understood from a conversation I had with a few friends in Iran .

the IAEA is the party saying its missing like a week ago. Thier job is to keep track of things like this. So its not a made up story.

If the goal is to end the program then this is it.


I have no such problem. Only the Israeli pov matters here. This sort of moral equivalence is unwarranted.

No need for black market if things normalise.

The IAEA gave a clean chit a weeks back . Now they have changed their tune . If the Iranian govt passes the resolution of not letting the IAEA then it would have a much worse consequence . I am sure the Iranians are not going to give up their missile plans if that happens .

 

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What you are advocating is a free pass for any government .

What's with this leaking nonsense?

Hear what witkoff says. Do you know who he is.

Most opposition parties will not and do not oppose on matters of National concern or do politics .

See above

And opposition and media I'm starting to see has no accountability AT ALL.

But every government DOES!

Opposition parties will and should question the govt for accountability . Millions of dollars /lives are spent on a particular operation and if the operation is not useful then obviously questions will be asked and raised .

That underlined part is exactly what they are insinuating with this leaked nonsense.

Post-Attack Assessment of the First 12 Days of Israeli Strikes on Iranian Nuclear Facilities | ISIS Reports | Institute For Science And International Security

^Read that. What is not useful. He's a third party and quite notable in the proliferation space.

Balakote or Op sindoor the opposition did raise relevant questions .

Balakote caused the same sort of nonsense USG is dealing with now.

Nobody questioned Op Sindoor. Not even the Paks. Because there was drone footage which is missing here.

How do you show the world in an unambiguous way that an underground site has been obliterated? You expect a live feed from underground when the strike happened or what.

The ruling party uses the IT and Social media to effective dis inform the citizens about the aims and objectives of the opposition and confuses the average citizen .

From what I can see Trump and Modi use social media primarily to counter misinformation put out by the opposition/media.

In a free society any government statement would get called out quickly. How can you not see that?

We have a media that won't shut up. Or do you want to say media in US is not free also.

The second part is you inherently distrust government. That is an ass backwards way of looking at things. It doubles the effort for you for no good reason. And ignores that government is always held accountable by the people. Every where.

Haven't you heard the saying , “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”

.. raising the frenzy and finally end up being a damp squib when Trump asked to have a ceasefire .

What damp squib?

Objectives were achieved. The argument I like is in that Fox clip I posted where Trump mocked them on how much destroyed.

How do they know to say that? Have they seen the same intel. No, because a good part of it is classified.