Video TCL C755 / C805

Grease Monk

Grease Monk

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m0h1t said:
Hisense 65U7K for 67K (65K + 3% emi foreclosure) on amazon via SBI card.
Good deal. Good 144Hz Miniled TV w/ 384 dimming zones. This is VA panel. 75” is ADS.

Similar offer on FK

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@m0h1t what are your thoughts on this vs the Mi 75 inch Q1 QLED at 85k? https://www.amazon.in/189-34-inches-Android-L75M6-ESG-Metallic/dp/B09HQTPWVR

Edit: i.e. what are your thoughts between both these TVs IF not being used for gaming, with an external streamer (Shield, Firestick, Apple TV)
 
Grease Monk said:
@m0h1t what are your thoughts on this vs the Mi 75 inch Q1 QLED at 85k? https://www.amazon.in/189-34-inches-Android-L75M6-ESG-Metallic/dp/B09HQTPWVR

Edit: i.e. what are your thoughts between both these TVs IF not being used for gaming, with an external streamer (Shield, Firestick, Apple TV)
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I have 75” MI Q1, 75” Hisense U7K and a 65” TCL c755 delivering in a few hours.

The Mi Q1 developed a short in the panel a few months back after 3 years of purchase, but that’s just me luck I think. There is a bit of voltage fluctuation here so I would attribute it to that or the universe wanting payback for something IDK. I bought it for 1L mid 2021. Viewing angles are great, very bright peak hits beyond 1000nits and decently contrasts but it’s only FALD with limited dimming zones.

The U7K and c755 are miniled with much higher dimming zones. Both have 144hz panel, VRR and other HDMI 2.1 features. I use my U7K with sunshine and moonlight to stream games from PC to the shield pro with 1-3ms latency (lab or good wifi required). The u7k is great and very contrasty but even though its supposed to be IPS derived ADS panel, the viewing angles are terrible. The colors don’t shift but there is a lot of backlight bleed at >45 degrees. U7k has VA panels in 55 and 85 inch sizes.

The c755 (also called c805 in EU) is newer and has VA panels in all sizes I think and higher dimming zones.

Since you’re buying now I’d suggest skip the Q1. It’s cheaper because it’s a 3 year old model. I bought 75u7k for 95k at the introductory pricing when it was launched. U7k and c755 are both overpriced but atleast 10-20% I feel, but what can you do, at 65” and 75” comparable brightness and contrast levels with established brands like LG Samsung Sony are even more expensive.

My recommendation Oleds > c755 > u7k/u7n > Mi Q1

I don’t have a good perspective on U7N just yet, not been able to do my research.

Might sound privileged, but generally recommend everyone to either get Apple TV or shield or fire tv 4k/max or google chrome cast 4k. The inbuilt Os and hardware is just garbage in 95% of TVs resulting in terrible experience
 
m0h1t said:
My recommendation Oleds > c755 > u7k/u7n > Mi Q1

I don’t have a good perspective on U7N just yet, not been able to do my research.

Might sound privileged, but generally recommend everyone to either get Apple TV or shield or fire tv 4k/max or google chrome cast 4k. The inbuilt Os and hardware is just garbage in 95% of TVs resulting in terrible experience
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Thanks a ton @m0h1t
 
m0h1t said:
The c755 (also called c805 in EU) is newer and has VA panels in all sizes I think and higher dimming zones.

Since you’re buying now I’d suggest skip the Q1. It’s cheaper because it’s a 3 year old model. I bought 75u7k for 95k at the introductory pricing when it was launched. U7k and c755 are both overpriced but atleast 10-20% I feel, but what can you do, at 65” and 75” comparable brightness and contrast levels with established brands like LG Samsung Sony are even more expensive.

My recommendation Oleds > c755 > u7k/u7n > Mi Q1
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I ended up ordering the 75" TCL c755 from Flipkart for ~ 1.28L as Amazon had that size unavailable in my area. Flipkart also offered me 15k for my 2019 Flipkart brand LED TV!

If I can figure out how to prepay the no-cost EMI, I may be able to get this down to ~ 1.21L. Thanks again @m0h1t

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Question to everyone regarding how open box delivery works wrt devices that require brand-authorized installation at a later date. I have heard that brands state that only the installation personnel should open the box during installation to honour warranty. But Open Box Delivery has the delivery agent open it for you on the delivery day. Is there any conflict between the two terms?
 
Grease Monk said:
I ended up ordering the 75" TCL c755 from Flipkart for ~ 1.28L as Amazon had that size unavailable in my area. Flipkart also offered me 15k for my 2019 Flipkart brand LED TV!

If I can figure out how to prepay the no-cost EMI, I may be able to get this down to ~ 1.21L. Thanks again @m0h1t

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Question to everyone regarding how open box delivery works wrt devices that require brand-authorized installation at a later date. I have heard that brands state that only the installation personnel should open the box during installation to honour warranty. But Open Box Delivery has the delivery agent open it for you on the delivery day. Is there any conflict between the two terms?
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Ordered an AC recently and flipkart delivery agents unboxed it during delivery,i had the same thought like you and the installation guy did infact questioned me about who opened the box but when i told him it was flipkart delivery agent he let it pass ,my suggestions let them open the box during delivery and check it for any damages .
 
m0h1t said:
I have 75” MI Q1, 75” Hisense U7K and a 65” TCL c755 delivering in a few hours.

The Mi Q1 developed a short in the panel a few months back after 3 years of purchase, but that’s just me luck I think. There is a bit of voltage fluctuation here so I would attribute it to that or the universe wanting payback for something IDK. I bought it for 1L mid 2021. Viewing angles are great, very bright peak hits beyond 1000nits and decently contrasts but it’s only FALD with limited dimming zones.

The U7K and c755 are miniled with much higher dimming zones. Both have 144hz panel, VRR and other HDMI 2.1 features. I use my U7K with sunshine and moonlight to stream games from PC to the shield pro with 1-3ms latency (lab or good wifi required). The u7k is great and very contrasty but even though its supposed to be IPS derived ADS panel, the viewing angles are terrible. The colors don’t shift but there is a lot of backlight bleed at >45 degrees. U7k has VA panels in 55 and 85 inch sizes.

The c755 (also called c805 in EU) is newer and has VA panels in all sizes I think and higher dimming zones.

Since you’re buying now I’d suggest skip the Q1. It’s cheaper because it’s a 3 year old model. I bought 75u7k for 95k at the introductory pricing when it was launched. U7k and c755 are both overpriced but atleast 10-20% I feel, but what can you do, at 65” and 75” comparable brightness and contrast levels with established brands like LG Samsung Sony are even more expensive.

My recommendation Oleds > c755 > u7k/u7n > Mi Q1

I don’t have a good perspective on U7N just yet, not been able to do my research.

Might sound privileged, but generally recommend everyone to either get Apple TV or shield or fire tv 4k/max or google chrome cast 4k. The inbuilt Os and hardware is just garbage in 95% of TVs resulting in terrible experience
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Wouldn't A/B series LG OLED be preferred to TCL C755? C755 is showing at 70K right now.
 
Grease Monk said:
But Open Box Delivery has the delivery agent open it for you on the delivery day. Is there any conflict between the two terms?
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In my case, the Flipkart dude opened the box and checked for damages and to see if every thing was in the box, but he didn't take the TV out of the box. The installation guy (Samsung) asked who opened it, I just said the delivery guy opened to check it and that was that.
 
Grease Monk said:
I ended up ordering the 75" TCL c755 from Flipkart for ~ 1.28L as Amazon had that size unavailable in my area. Flipkart also offered me 15k for my 2019 Flipkart brand LED TV!

If I can figure out how to prepay the no-cost EMI, I may be able to get this down to ~ 1.21L. Thanks again @m0h1t

View attachment 202098

Question to everyone regarding how open box delivery works wrt devices that require brand-authorized installation at a later date. I have heard that brands state that only the installation personnel should open the box during installation to honour warranty. But Open Box Delivery has the delivery agent open it for you on the delivery day. Is there any conflict between the two terms?
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Bought a Hisense 65U7K from Amazon a few months ago, the order said something about Open Box Inspection and so I made their delivery guys remove the TV from the box and checked it for physical damage.

The Hsense guy who came for installation did not ask about it at all.
 
Kevin Lane said:
Wouldn't A/B series LG OLED be preferred to TCL C755? C755 is showing at 70K right now.
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I guess but LG oled will not be as bright as the c755 miniled. If the tv is going to be in a dark room then a3 will probably be better. C755 has all the hdmi 2.1 features like VRR ALLM eARC etc along with a 144Hz panel, not sure if a3 will have all of this
 
Supt said:
In my case, the Flipkart dude opened the box and checked for damages and to see if every thing was in the box, but he didn't take the TV out of the box. The installation guy (Samsung) asked who opened it, I just said the delivery guy opened to check it and that was that.
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variablevector said:
Bought a Hisense 65U7K from Amazon a few months ago, the order said something about Open Box Inspection and so I made their delivery guys remove the TV from the box and checked it for physical damage.

The Hsense guy who came for installation did not ask about it at all.
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Thanks, the installation guy made no issue seeing the TV out of the box.

edept said:
@m0h1t and @Grease Monk , it would be really nice to get your informed opinions on your TVs when you might feel like you're ready to. :)
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Sure, I'll start a thread sometime if Mo doesn't beat me to it once I have something more solid. My initial impressions (keeping in mind that I came from a 65" flipkart brand LED tv):
PQ on 4k HDR\SDR content is great - love the black levels and contrast. Although I have seen what I think is red clipping on my BD remux of Mad Max Fury Road.
1080p youtube looks a little rough depending on the content when compared to my old TV
Speakers are impressive for a midrange TV - but I'd still recommend a soundbar at the very least.
Good to have native AV1 decoding. Still takes a bit of time to seek within a video compared to HEVC\h264, but much better than when Jellyfin needed to transcode for my old TV.
Audio latency when using Sunshine\Moonlight to stream games from my PC. Never had this issue on my 2017 Shield.
Software and firmware is a bit funky:
  • Google TV would keep logging me out whenever I restarted (not standby) the TV. This continued until I created a TCL account; earlier I was just using my google account to log into TCL.
  • I navigate the UI in Movie mode (TCL's closest equivalent to Filmmaker mode), when I play a Dolby Vision movie which switches to it's own mode, then when I return to the UI it switches to a much brighter Dynamic mode instead of reverting to Movie mode.
  • There is a hardware switch to disable the TV's far field microphone. Disabling the mic causes 4 led's below the TV to always be on, even when I put the TV into standby despite choosing the setting to disable standby leds completely.
Onboard ethernet is capped at 100 mbps as expected, but surprisingly, Im still getting a better ping to my home server when using wifi. Neither have a ping of 1ms though, so I may still need to purchase an ethernet dongle when I implement my ambilight setup incase the latency causes the LEDs to go out of sync with the video.

Edit: lol, I didnt realise these posts were moved out of the amazon thread to a dedicated one. Apologies to the mods.
I'll use this thread to post my findings.
 
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Some updates from my side:

The TV doesn't support Dolby TrueHD, or multi-channel FLAC\AAC. Everything downmixes to stereo. Not yet tested DTS-HD MA, but I'm assuming that will be the same.
Other formats appear to be bitstreaming without issue.

Dolby Vision Profile 7 is extremely washed out, almost like watching HDR content on an SDR device. Profile 8 and 5(?) work as expected.

Local dimming has been good. The only time I have noticed it in normal use is in movies with black bars on the top and bottom, and the scene has a bright section near the boundary, this causes some bleed into the black bar.
 
Grease Monk said:
Some updates from my side:

The TV doesn't support Dolby TrueHD, or multi-channel FLAC\AAC. Everything downmixes to stereo. Not yet tested DTS-HD MA, but I'm assuming that will be the same.
Other formats appear to be bitstreaming without issue.

Dolby Vision Profile 7 is extremely washed out, almost like watching HDR content on an SDR device. Profile 8 and 5(?) work as expected.

Local dimming has been good. The only time I have noticed it in normal use is in movies with black bars on the top and bottom, and the scene has a bright section near the boundary, this causes some bleed into the black bar.
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Will you suggest this TV I am thinking about buying TCL C755 55 INCH , but Atmos is important for me will this format trueHD works if I use other streaming device like Apple TV

If anyone has access to Hisense U7N would love to see the comparison b/w U7N & C255

U7N reviews of india & other countries I feel is different ,remote control looks different of india & US can anyone confirm the difference in remote
 
starlord said:
... but Atmos is important for me will this format trueHD works if I use other streaming device like Apple TV
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If your streaming device and audio equipment (AVR\Soundbar) supports TrueHD, AND you connect the streaming device directly to the audio equipment (and not via the TV), then yes, TrueHD should work.
For example, in my case, 2017 Sheild --> AVR --> TV and TrueHD works.
Grease Monk said:
Not yet tested DTS-HD MA, but I'm assuming that will be the same.
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Confirmed that the TV does support DTS-HD MA.
 
starlord said:
Will you suggest this TV I am thinking about buying TCL C755 55 INCH , but Atmos is important for me will this format trueHD works if I use other streaming device like Apple TV

If anyone has access to Hisense U7N would love to see the comparison b/w U7N & C255

U7N reviews of india & other countries I feel is different ,remote control looks different of india & US can anyone confirm the difference in remote
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If you are going to use Atmos, it is better to let an external device and AVR handle that. I have an Atmos setup, used it with Shield 2019 and the latest Firestick 4K. TV doesn't need to process audio at all.
As Grease Monk mentions above, the TV only handles HDMI video output in that case. Audio is processed on the dedicated media player like Shield or Firestick and then passed on to the AVR, which then powers the speakers.
 
guest_999 said:
Isn't that the norm, downmixing any supported audio codec stream to stereo to output via TV's inbuilt stereo speakers.
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Yeah, that would make sense for inbuilt speakers. My notes were wrt using external audio devices. In my case an AVR which supports everything short of IMAX Enhanced. The way Im assessing if the TV supports a format is to use the AVR's app to see what sort of signal it is receiving from the TV. Unsupported formats are converted to stereo PCM instead of bitstreaming to the AVR.
 
Grease Monk said:
Yeah, that would make sense for inbuilt speakers. My notes were wrt using external audio devices. In my case an AVR which supports everything short of IMAX Enhanced. The way Im assessing if the TV supports a format is to use the AVR's app to see what sort of signal it is receiving from the TV. Unsupported formats are converted to stereo PCM instead of bitstreaming to the AVR.
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My HT also behaves the same way; In fact, TrueHD, DTS-MA, AAC are all supported only via HDMI1/2 and not via ARC. So, I have a firestick plugged in HDMI1 port and my Plex happily pass-thru the Audio formats.
Though my TV says it supports Dolby Atmos, if I play the same movie on TV and audio via ARC to HT, TrueHD --> DD and DTS-MA --> PCM Stereo, AAC --> PCM Stereo. So, it is better to have Firestick / any streaming box connected directly to your HT receiver.
starlord said:
I am thinking about buying TCL C755 55 INCH
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From where exactly? I do not see this model anywhere online.
 
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