AMD Ryzen 5 9600X and Ryzen 7 9700X review roundup : Confusing and all over the place

desiibond said:
Why? You need to erase entire firmware and patch new clean firmware.
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ah, I just saw the above comment, I was quoting a news article I read and the subsequent reddit thread on it but my point still stands, how many will have the tech know-how to do it and most importantly should we be even expected to do it?
 
altair21 said:
ah, I just saw the above comment, I was quoting a news article I read and the subsequent reddit thread on it but my point still stands, how many will have the tech know-how to do it and most importantly should we be even expected to do it?
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I am just saying that there is no need to discard, that this article was exaggerating things. Like others said, if one did not even know that kernel was already compromised, they were ****ed already. They won’t even know that firmware too is compromised unless they see some really wierd things.
 
7950X3D was selling for 71k before coming down to 53k. Give the 9xxx series 6 months and the prices will stabilize. It could be more given the ****up Intel is in.
 
The 9950X is an even bigger disappointment. Barely 1-2% faster than the 7950X, at the same power efficiency. PBO does nothing. Zero redeeming factors for this chip, period. Only hope is the X3D part. Even that will likely just match the 7800X3D.


GN's video highlights the AVX improvements to a degree but still concludes that the 7950X is the ultimate better value and buy. The 9950X makes sense if you're building from scratch for a workstation, and the price drops slightly.


 
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Intel: "Sure, our 13th and 14th gen CPUs might run a bit hot—some might say they're just too electrifying. But don’t worry, the future’s bright… just maybe not as bright as those power bills!"

AMD: "We’ve been dodging vulnerabilities since 2006 like Neo in The Matrix, but then came Ryzen—3xxx and 5xxx took the world by storm, and 7xxx? That was our magnum opus. But then we thought we were NVIDIA, and well… the 9xxx series turned out to be the kind of fireworks show you remember, but not for the right reasons."

So there goes my shot to upgrade to 9xxx CPU from AMD. Maybe I'll stick to 14700KF till it dies like Logan.
 
Darth Vader said:
@MODS Please remove the "Efficiency Kings" from the thread title. Its makes no sense.

Also this:
Zen 5” CPUs To Receive New “105W” TDP In AGESA 1.2.0.1a BIOS Update
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Ha Ha Lol GIF by Utah Jazz
 
While Intel is busy trying to shoot itself in the head, AMD is hurriedly snatching that gun and shooting themselves in the foot...

apple is smirking with their own chips, snapdragon is salivating at the opportunity, Jensen is regretting not putting those CPU dreams into action much faster so that he could have made nvidia a zillion dollar company....
 
Jensen is not regretting a bit. Bitcoin and then Ether mining made a lot of money for them. Now they are riding on the AI things, GPU powering AI Data centers.
 
Think of it this way, if Arrow Lake turns out to be a dud as well, then you won't need to upgrade for another generation, at the least. Maybe the 7800X3D is destined for the same league as the i5-2500k, as a high end gaming processor that just refuses to get eclipsed even years later, but that is probably unlikely unless Zen 6/Panther Lake turns out to be a disappointment too.
 

Conclusion: Simply put, I am extremely impressed with the Ryzen 9 9900 series. If you are a creator, developer, or just doing any heavy lifting on your desktop across a range of workloads, the Ryzen 9 9950X and Ryzen 9 9900X proved to be terrific options. These new AMD Ryzen 9900 series processors deliver great generational uplift and better power efficiency than the prior Ryzen 9 7900 series parts and the Intel Core 14th Gen competition. At $499 USD for the Ryzen 9 9900X and $649 USD for the Ryzen 9 9950X these processors are also priced fair.

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My Conspiracy theory: Microsoft deliberately slowing down new get x86 CPUs to push people towards Qualcomm chips as Microsoft put huge money into WoA. ;);););)
 
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DigitalDude said:
While Intel is busy trying to shoot itself in the head, AMD is hurriedly snatching that gun and shooting themselves in the foot...

apple is smirking with their own chips, snapdragon is salivating at the opportunity, Jensen is regretting not putting those CPU dreams into action much faster so that he could have made nvidia a zillion dollar company....
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AMD Q2 2024 results:

Datacenter revenue : $1.8 billion, up 115% YoY.
Client revenue : $1.5 billion, up 49% YoY.
Gaming and Embedded revenue was down YoY.

I doubt if they are shooting themselves in the foot. They are generating record sales in datacenter and they are getting really strong in laptop market as well. Look at the new Ryzen AI processor reviews. People are praising those models left and right. Desktop side though, it is actually weird. There is so much parity between Linux and Windows based benchmarks.

When it comes to launch self-appraisal, Qualcomm did same thing that AMD did. Exaggerate performance and get blasted left and right by reviewers. At least in case of Qualcomm, they have 'new to market' get-away card.
Darth Vader said:
@MODS Please remove the "Efficiency Kings" from the thread title. Its makes no sense.

Also this:
Zen 5” CPUs To Receive New “105W” TDP In AGESA 1.2.0.1a BIOS Update
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Fixed it.
 
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At the end of KitGuruTech's latest video (9950X review) he mentions some tweets about observed increased core-to-core (or CCD-to-CCD) latency (or something like that) being much higher than Zen 4 and hoping that it's not inherently a hardware defect rather something with the OS. If hardware issue then AMD is majorly effed with Turin (Epyc) using many more CCDs.
 
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