Hypocrisy of Firefox [Mozilla Corporation]

I don't think this is correct. While brave is based off of chromium, they patch the sources to force enable manifest v2, and their internal ad blocking ("brave shield") is independent of these manifest shenanigans. Source https://brave.com/blog/brave-shields-manifest-v3/
Brave iirc plans to integrate ad blocking extensions in the browser itself, thus eliminating the need for an extension at all, not sure how much progress they have made towards that but if it works fine, then Brave is a viable alternative, but me personally I would prefer the extension itself, faster updates and focused development towards one thing
 
Google has been investing in Firefox since long time.. Without google they wont have survived so far.
Time for other companies to demand back for there investments.
 
Brave iirc plans to integrate ad blocking extensions in the browser itself, thus eliminating the need for an extension at all, not sure how much progress they have made towards that but if it works fine, then Brave is a viable alternative, but me personally I would prefer the extension itself, faster updates and focused development towards one thing
Brave has since its inception indulged in various suspect practices. Their adblocker is meant to block ads that they don't receive payment for and to bypass ads that are paid for by the companies. It is effectively a blackmail strategy. At any point, it is better to use the community based options with common interests than use a company provided solution meant to earn them money at your expense.
back in days when i used ungoogled chrome in w7, use to face similar. i had to go in registry and delete few things and/or create new profile.
see this this is helpful for you - https://www.addictivetips.com/windows-tips/fix-chrome-not-working-windows-10/ (this is the nearest im able to find online)

not sold man, shared with partners.
if meta/facebook co-authoring something you can guess :P


this trick as as old as magician taking out rabbit from their hat.
recently pulled out when rebranding facebook to meta, google to alphabets. while is nothing wrong or unethical but they must not claim otherwise. they are not EFF.
Chrome also says they respect your privacy and data - https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/14225066?hl=en

Almost all browser does some or other thing for revenue sources, but they dont misguide as much as ff does.
example Brave it was supported bu google&fb in pre-seed, and they are backed by few of the questionable company, and integrated crypto , etc but still they are better protecting user prvacy and not making a backdoor for advertisers and labeling it something else.

All need money, i absolutely get it. Even proton is starting its crypto wallet and what not.
But if chota fanta directs a bulldozer towards our house claiming to build us a home, everyone knows what is the expected result.


if chromium on windows, then Egde makes the most sense.
I suppose you haven't seen all the things Brave has been doing and they are one of the most shady companies.

The CEO had even stated that their idea is to compete with Google and Meta for ads which includes showing ads that they receive payment for and block ones from Google and Meta. Mozilla is only now taking this approach of serving ads but again have done so publicly unlike these companies.
 
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Brave has since its inception indulged in various suspect practices. Their adblocker is meant to block ads that they don't receive payment for and to bypass ads that are paid for by the companies.
yes i know, but that's the lesser evil in the lot.
disabled their leo, and crypto. I dont use their shield, rather ads is taken care by ubo, noscript, etc.

I suppose you haven't seen all the things Brave has been doing and they are one of the most shady companies.
all are same, more or less.
That's why i used safari and edge as my primary in respective OS.
for random things i use brave with SOCKS5 rotating proxy, good luck extracting any private information.
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image form here - The illusion of choice , nice discussion in that thread.
 
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What they says :

Source: https://www.theregister.com/2024/11/13/mozillas_firefox_browser/

What they Actually do:

Source (out of many out there) :- https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2024/07/14/mozilla-disappoints-us-yet-again-2/

These bugges, Mozilla Foundation, taking money under the table from google, facebook, microsoft, and god knows who else, and calling themselves non-profit organization and white knight of privacy.
thats why great open source orgs cant survive on its own
 
thats why great open source orgs cant survive on its own
Linux? KDE? Fedora?

Firefox is a unique case because Google has abused its position as dominant search engine to advertise Chrome, they sometimes break some functionality of their services on Firefox (Youtube videos getting stuck or not loading for eg), either intentionally or by using some non-standard functionality that is only available in Chrome.
 
This is another terrible idea of Mozilla's. Check if u have enabled this or the data collection options.

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Is it just me or is the setting unchecked by default?
I haven't changed any settings, and this was unchecked. I read about this setting from this thread.
As for privacy, it is increasingly becoming a myth or a mirage.
Just accept the truth, and DO NOT share anything incriminating or identifiable online.
 
The irony is that 90% of the market is cornered by Google and Microsoft, based on users who don't care or understand anything about privacy or data collection.

The remaining 10% of the user base cries wolf over every change made by companies like Mozilla that are trying to survive by monetizing what they can. Even so, they do It publicly and you still have the option to disable all data sharing related settings.

The alternatives like Brave (shady tactics and CEO), Opera (Chinese owned), Arc (severe security breach) are just worse.
 
The remaining 10% of the user base cries wolf over every change made by companies like Mozilla that are trying to survive by monetizing what they can. Even so, they do It publicly and you still have the option to disable all data sharing related settings.
this is what I don't get, like bro you happily give your data to Apple/Google anytime you use their services without even having a choice and here an org is telling you that they will collect data and here's an option to opt out of it. and then they scream like banshees
 
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Mozilla: DOJ's Plan for Chrome Risks Hurting Smaller Browsers
The DOJ wants to level the playing field for browser makers, but the Firefox developer says the plan will take crucial revenue away from smaller companies with lucrative Google search deals.

Mozilla went μzilla begging in favor of it's fund provider ! The true parasitic face is out now...

The group has called the European Commission to list Microsoft Edge as a gatekeeper under the Digital Markets Act (DMA).
Chrome in this group is funny, especially when there is antitrust case against itself.

What a situation...
 
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Mozilla: DOJ's Plan for Chrome Risks Hurting Smaller Browsers
The DOJ wants to level the playing field for browser makers, but the Firefox developer says the plan will take crucial revenue away from smaller companies with lucrative Google search deals.

Mozilla went μzilla begging in favor of it's fund provider ! The true parasitic face is out now...

The group has called the European Commission to list Microsoft Edge as a gatekeeper under the Digital Markets Act (DMA).
Chrome in this group is funny, especially when there is antitrust case against itself.
Chrome complaining about Edge is like a thief calling the cops because someone else broke into the same house.
 
Some amount of data leakage can and will happen - but google and meta take it to another level altogether .
Anything that prevents it is welcome - and so I would rather let my data be captured by Apple and MS because at least they won't sell it to a competitor for further commercial usage
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Mozilla draws flak for collaborating with Meta: Here is what they are working on
Mozilla is collaborating with Meta to develop an Interoperable Private Attribution (IPA) system to enable marketing attribution while also maintaining user privacy
 
I would rather let my data be captured by Apple and MS because at least they won't sell it to a competitor for further commercial usage
you forgot the key point, yet specially since Apple is now entering the advertising space, and has been taking billions from Google annually to allow google to be the default search browser. and lets not forget about Recall.
 
you forgot the key point, yet specially since Apple is now entering the advertising space, and has been taking billions from Google annually to allow google to be the default search browser. and lets not forget about Recall.
Will figure out a solution as and when that happens. Why speculate now?
Them taking billions of dollars from Google is not something that impacts me. If google wants to pay that humongous sum just to retain their search engine pole position, so be it.
The worst that happens to me is that I either need to change my default search engine on safari.. or better still, just ignore the sponsored ads they show.

As long as this doesn't intrude on my privacy - and as long as google gets to see only what I searched for on their search engine

For now, I don't see any reason to be concerned as an end-user- unless I am missing something
 
Them taking billions of dollars from Google is not something that impacts me. If google wants to pay that humongous sum just to retain their search engine pole position, so be it.
this was just as a counter to the point that Apple is better than the others in terms of privacy, they are just not as egregious,
For now, I don't see any reason to be concerned as an end-user- unless I am missing something
eh, peeps here are crying over Mozilla, this just seemed to be pretty ironic to me.
 
this was just as a counter to the point that Apple is better than the others in terms of privacy, they are just not as egregious,

eh, peeps here are crying over Mozilla, this just seemed to be pretty ironic to me.
While I never said Apple was better earlier , Now that you have brought it up; Its (at least currently) better than MS and miles better than Google (their tracking is atrocious - practically 80% of my blocked traffic on unbound is google trackers and the majority of the remainder is Meta)

As for Mozilla, I think the reason why the thread was created is because of the dichotomy between their claim and behaviour.
To your own point, Apple keeps hyping its privacy centred model. A fair percentage of users would have been allured by that claim.
Now If tomorrow they go the google route (tracking all your activities for targeted ads) then that would also result in a similar thread, and that flak would be very well deserved and more
 
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While I never said Apple was better earlier , Now that you have brought it up; Its (at least currently) better than MS and miles better than Google (their tracking is atrocious - practically 80% of my blocked traffic on unbound is google trackers and the majority of the remainder is Meta)

As for Mozilla, I think the reason why the thread was created is because of the dichotomy between their claim and behaviour.
To your own point, Apple keeps hyping its privacy centred model. A fair percentage of users would have been allured by that claim.
Now If tomorrow they go the google route (tracking all your activities for targeted ads) then that would also result in a similar thread, and that flak would be very well deserved and more
MS is training its Ai and than might enter into AI based ad business :P
 
So, they decided to rebrand, that should solve the problems /s

"...built from the 'M' for Mozilla and a pixel that is conveniently displaced to reveal a wink to its iconic Tyrannosaurus rex symbol..."
Yeah, dinosaur as brand logo which is so apt, whenever there is over-hype about dinosaurs, don't know why it reminds of extinction.
Only if they used money spent on marketing and operations on technical interests...
 
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