then you should win by default hopefully, but yeah shit is bad
its consumer court, shit happens fast in it, even in India
^only applied pre-covid then
No longer applicable post covid. If the build quality isnât upto par then they have cut costs and moved to a lower cost OEM. That cuts enough corners to make a phone last just past the warranty period and no further
So if tomorrow someone asks for a phone in the 15-20k budget, would you recommend a motorola phone? No
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I thought you were generalizing that all âbudgetâ phones are crap because of price. I guess i read it wrong.
Yeah, wont touch motorola after so many bad reviews. Why even bother with their expensive ones if service is bad. Just look at alternatives.
Just during covid it seems, bought on 11 June 2020. But yeah, shit started afterwards. Have heard a lot of bad stuff from xiaomi too.
This time too i went for Oneplus CE5 which is also relatively cheap, closer to 20k. Lets see how long it lasts. M30s is still running well and i still use it.
My ideal is a good linux based open phone. Ideally valve will come up with something now that they have started using arm too on their VR headset and have an x86 to arm library.
Steamdeck 2 with 5g support running pc games on KDE with oled/hdr will be really cool. That i might spend on.
I am. It just seems like a risk you donât need.
Expecting one company to do better than another at the same price point? How long for. Must be a loss leader then. The first couple or so iterations to build a customer base and then at some arbitrary date it all goes to shit. Like motorola post covid.
How lucky do you feel?
For exampleâŚ
Series A, F and M. Budget Samsung phones.
yeah lets see.
Phones are not that imp for me to pay 2x-3x to avoid supposed âriskâ like this. Higher priced products donât have more warranty and might break just as well. Some of this seems just like FUD to me, but we will see.
Anyway i have a good mobile repair guy here. A family member got M21, which did go into boot loop and had a âhard diskâ problem. He fixed it and it works well after that.
Its hard to believe that every company will make bad build quality products in segments with most volume.
I am more inclined to then go even cheaper and get basic phone as i use desktop rather than mobile for most of my stuff. Maybe ill start reading books again instead of wasting time on yt 
As for privacy, my assumption is that all of them are not good. Even retail windows is crap now. Thatâs why i would prefer an open linux platform. + playing pc games on it via something like steam deck would be perfect for me. One can hope. But anyway still not too imp. I donât travel much as i work from home and these phones are more than enough for when i do.
I dont use it for banking or anything important. And its linked with a secondary gmail account.
In my opinion Motorola phones have the most reliable and sturdy hardware. The network and battery are best in class and they r built to last longer than ur average Android phone. I switched to motorola from samsung 15 years back and have never regretted. This is my 8th motorola phone and it has never disappointed me. Yours might be a case of just BAD LUCK.
imo, your range should be 30k at a minimum these days, cheap phones cheap out on a lot of shit and you start noticing it only once you use higher end phones.
My 40k edge 30 fusion has not lagged even once, with minor jitters and increased loading times because of age and the fact my storage has only 500mb free. Yet my Moto one Power which I bought in 2019 stuttered in the first hour itself.
I was pretty much used to these stutters, with UI hanging on call screens, lockscreen taking ages to unlock and what not, but once you go up a little, all of this? is just instant, and youâll never go back.
It comes back to the Boots theory and imo, is 100% applicable to phones, In our family atleast, we have taken to buying at a bare minimum 2 year old flagships or phones with equivalent specs and use them for 5-6 years, and they last easily and perform just as good as on the first day
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Can you list out the motorola phones you have and mention whether they were low, midrange or flagship so we get a better idea.
Yes, that happens here so the more data points the better. The ones with the bad experience will always post but that silent majority stays silent and doesnât counter much.
So minority views can appear larger than life.
Thatâs a fair point. Unless you have a frame of reference itâs hard to say. In the end you get what you pay for.
one, sure.
5, over the years? no
My use case is different than most i guess.
I am happy with my 5-6 years old M30s. So they are all fast enough for me.
I dont use them that much anyway.
M30s might stutter in extreme cases with too much stuff in memory. But otherwise, for my usage, i had no issues in calls or lock screens. It works fine, i still use it.
Anyway, i dont see phones as too important that even if i had a few stutters that it would become a deal breaker. I dont play games on mobiles either.
I am still using my M30s as backup. Actually i use it more than CE5 right now.
Moreover i dont think its too much worse than new CE5. Camera is better and it has HDR. Its faster sure, but i dont notice it much in daily usage.
Anyway, ill stick to these. Dunno, i never got this craze with mobiles.
No interest in higher end phones. Will likely change that if we get a steam deck 2 or similar based on linux built around gaming but with phone features and android app support. Dont really need it ( so i did not buy steam deck 1 oled), but could be a nice thing as a mobile for fun.
Really wanted the new VR headset to have oled, but it seems its not there yet as per valve, not bright enough with low persistence.
Was going to order Moto g67 power (LCD) !
Reading thread now thinking of REDMI 15 (LCD).
i used to think that. it was even my logic. but when i see even s25âs or iphones or even oneplus top devices get screen issue slik green line or pink screen, and it costs the owener money for fixing something that wasnt damaged by them, the boots theory for phones goes out the window.
thats why its easier to go reverse. go cheap, replace often
then get one plus for that life time warranty of display, but my point still stands
Xiaomiâs customer care is equally bad. My family owned multiple xiaomi phones (7-8 in total)
My previous phone (POCO F3 GT) got green line issue just after 8-9 months of purchase.
They denied screen replacement and said that I probably pressed phone against wall or something (despite there being zero evidence as phone was in top condition physically). They cited around 12k for replacement screen with service charges,GST etc (I donât remember exact amount as it occurred few years ago).
I got it replaced(they took around 2 weeks too). After 4 months of using the phone, one morning it got into bootloop. I tried getting to fadtboot and flashing stock rom again but it had no effect on it.
I finally visited service centre and they said it was âmotherboard issueâ and it is quite common in that model. But since my phone was out of warranty (by one month or so), they wonât replace it for free and I have to pay for entire motherboard and service charges.
I tried visiting another 2 service centers and their verdict was same. And they took 100+ GST to just look at phone too.
I finally told them to go to hell. Told them I wonât give them more money.
I used an old phone I had for some time and then i got a budget OnePlus phone (Nord CE 4) which worked wonderfully and I am still using it without any issues.
Anyway our family had bought 2 more phones since then, all OnePlus.
So what xiaomis pathetic customer care managed was to drive away a loyal customer. Our family will never be using their products in future.
went with vivo t4x. lcd wont get bad. dimensity 7300 is good enough
you should have pushed back, all of the companies will do their best to avoid doing a free repair, get your inner karen on and start screaming consumer court, works like 90% of the time
I should have but..
The main issue is that I donât have enough free time or energy to pursue the matter in courts.
Do you get these new or used? From where, usually?
we never do used, its always new, for e.g. I got my father s24U this sale which at 69k for me was a much better value proposition compared to S25U at 1.2, specially with the downgraded S-Pen on s25U. I bought an edge 30 fusion with a 888+ for 40k, which at the time was a 2 year old flagship chipset. And for mom, I got a nothing phone 3 at 35K, which honestly is a steal deal for it
I get that, had the same happen to me with my note 5 pro, Service center said some BS about the motherboard being bent, despite not even tempered glass having cracks on it, forget display. In the end, had to ultimately let it go
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