Our enemy - pakistan has a few features = religious fanatics, no empathy, no morals, dishonest and no brains,.
There is a deliberate massive social media disinformation campaign by pakis to influence the narrative. We cannot just sit idle
fake tiktok videos - they are making ai videos as such and the west, specially the liberal, young ones are equating pak as innocent gaza and india as evil
many posts are banned in india now. but can be seen elsewhere
paki journalists on international media . cnn, reuters have been vomiting pakistan propaganda. Turns out many ‘journalist’ at these sites are paki origin:
People please active the NRI network . my sister in USA wast telling me - one of her friends son - born and brought up in USA suddenly said to his mom - “pak did no wrong” . he had been watching tiktok / insta propaganda
I know there is a existing thread. Please feel free to merge. I created separate coz this is important ! This narrative is what decides if pak gets more money to fund terror against us
Don’t worry about these bankrupt fools. They dont even have enough reserves to import essentials for their people. Compare their 15 billion USD in reserves to India’s nearly 700 billion. Ultimately the conflict will end not because of a war but economic reasons.
One thing at a time. Before worrying about the world what is the prevailing mood in the country?
Victorious. Jubilant etc isn’t it.
Compare with 2019. There it was a mixed bag.
So why is it different this time?
For a start our capabilities are better than they were back allowing to hit deeper, more precisely and at lower risk.
Also the government has been proactive with blocking disinformation accounts. Notice how the opposition isn’t as vocal as it was last ime because they could use all the anti India stuff against us.
Twitter was off in all of Pakistan until India struck and then surprise of surprises is opened for everyone so they can push the Pak narrative.
We can’t do anything about tiktok since we aren’t on it. But that’s not a bad thing because it prevents foreign disinformation efforts aimed at destabilising society here.
Israel’s position is worse. The government there sees no point in funding hasbara efforts as they don’t get the desired traction. So it falls upon either citizens or private sector to push the governments line.
What really maters isn’t what foreign media says. What matters is how foreign governments understand it and here efforts are being made to clarify our position to those governments. eg. our ambassadors.
Why pakis hate us. want war, roots of their fundamentalism - its all based on lies. Pak army routinely lies about india, they make us the villian, so they can fool regular pakis into fighting.
it is absolutely false that India started this war.
Dr S. Akbar Zaidi dispelled ‘the victory myth’, saying that there can be no a bigger lie, as Pakistan lost terriblyloltd
Air Marshal Nur Khan commented,
Similarly they lie about kashmir, that people are being tortured.
Inciting a whole country. Multiple generations lied to, being radicalized. What a scandal it is !!
Whenever I need a good laugh, I scroll through Pakistani subreddits. Their delusion is absolutely hilarious. (Obviously I never interact with those posts)
But if they succeed in making a false narrative, like westerns are believing now - that pak is like gaza and india is like isreael killing innocents. These are the same people who support hamas. Then they keep getting funded - china, turkey, imf ! Truth can only triumph if it is told.
John Spencer has done yeomans work debunking all the propaganda around the Gaza conflict by showing flaws in the casualties reporting process. Pointing out rules of war and how care was taken to minimise casualties. He became so well known in Israel that even the Israeli PM quoted him.
He’s a prof at westpoint with 25 years experience as an infantryman
Their army has been lying for decades. Its about the 1965 war. pak army lied, said India attacked first. Generations of pakis have been poisoned on this lie. We don’t understand why the pakis have this hate. This lie, among others explains it. At least now we can talk about it.
“Pakistan did not win this war. It agreed to a ceasefire with India after it realized it may lose. Also, it is absolutely false that India started this war.”
“there can be no bigger lie that Pakistan won the war. We lost terribly in the 1965 war”
We have lost 4 in total. Bathinda(Rafale), Pampore(Mirage 2000), Ramban(SU-30MKI), Akhnoor(Mig-29) is where they were downed. There is video evidence at each sites. Too many news channels carried this story till 7-8am on 7th May and misidentifed all 4 crash sites as Pakistani jets(which were obv indian jets) and then suddenly all were asked to kept quiet. Too many local people have recorded the videos. Had they been Pakistani jets we would have paraded the wreckage. But news channels were threatened to bury the story and Hindu and Indian express had to literally delete their story. Many journalists deleted their tweet(including RW journalists like Shiv Aroor, Aditya Raj Kaul) which referred those jets.
This video is still up about Bathinda crash site. Locals literally recorded video of engine which matches with M-88 the engine of Rafale. [9people were injured and 1 person died on this site](’
696266536636867 This is a 9mins news report for Akhnoor where at 3:20 you can hear people telling reporter how 2 pilots ejected safely and admitted to military hospital. It exactly matches with coordinates showed by Pakistan where they claimed they downed a Mig-29.
1996138384129134 This is 19min video of Pampore crash site. Engine matches(came be seen at 16:39) closest to Mirage 2000(which Pak is claiming as a Rafale). This has been recorded by Kashmiri locals who were helping firefighters as jet was shot down and debris fell besides a school in Wayun Pampore. There are many other videos for this wreckage site as well. Co-ordinates matches exactly with what Pakistan claimed as Rafale hit.
Ramban crash site can be identified as Su-30MKI from the debris and ejection seat. 58secs video available where military people are cordoning off the crash site with debris visible but unable to share here.
I have other videos too of all crash sites but can’t attach them in comments.
We can live in as much delusion as we want. But taking right lessons from the dogfights is absolutely necessary than burying the truth and threatening people who cover the story. Throughout 90hours of fighting between Ind-Pak not a single plane crosses borders as in modern warfare dogfights are Beyond visual range(BVR). Both have fire and forget kind of missiles with range of 150+km. They were reportedly shot by PL-15 which has a range of 250+km and outranges Rafale’s Meteor missile. All crash sites deep inside indian territory(40-80km) any physics equations suggest an aircraft will crash within 25km of being shot. Plus had any of this crash site being j-17 or f-16 we would have made a great spectacle of debris.
