Graphic Cards 2nd Price Cut gets Effective GTX 280/260 -$449/299!

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^^^man before coming over to TE, I used to read reviews etc. for weeks on a particular category that used to interest me, and then go over to NP for searching on the best price for the cards/products that I wud have shortlisted, alongwith ofcourse going to my fixed dealers/shops as well....I didnt used to care about the prices in US. I am sure, its the same with many such people, they would buy the product at the best prices they can buy.....so u see, that is the reason Rashi doesnt care about the informed peeps, coz there wud still be people who would buy there product. And ofcourse with the margins they have, they can ofcourse drop the prices at a later stage....
 
morgoth said:
If that is the case why DX 10.1 was removed from Assasin's Creed? Is it not because the superiority Radeons were enjoying with this title?
It's not only F***king developer support it's also a matter of dollars. I have no probs with the TWIMTBP program if it makes a difference to end-user for better, but why the hell stifle technological advances like DX10.1 when everybody knows that it corrects the completely f***ed up DX10 that in my opinion was deliberately broken by MS to please Nvidia.

While it's not talked about many, it seems that Nvidia's G80 and the architecture based on it is not suitable to subtleties of DX10.1. Instead, G80 and similar architecture relies on brute force as evident from massive shader power and humongous memory requirements of new Geforce cards. Nvidia will never do DX10.1 on this architecture. It will say this API is not needed or does not bring any benefits to developers but that's not true.

Now, I am not asking you to believe me. Read it on AnandTech:

And Nvidia hopes that we believe these lies...

AnandTech: NVIDIA's 1.4 Billion Transistor GPU: GT200 Arrives as the GeForce GTX 280 & 260

Everybody's out to make money right? So it goes without saying that 'dollars' are involved. NVIDIA's a company, not a charity show right? Ditto ATi. You forget the X800XT / 6800GT days. Or were you unaware of them?

The point I'm making is that everybody here who posts for either NVIDIA or ATi 'vehemently' will be a fanboy. I personally don't care for either, just that every year or so I have 30K aside to spend on a graphics card, since I am a fanboy of high res, high detail gaming. While no authority on corporate strategy I do know how both these companies and other hardware IT firms work. Cut throat competition is the name of the game. It isn't right, but its done. Whoever said that ethics comes as part of the territory?

BTW the same G80 you malign has served me well for 1.5 years now (bought in March 2007). Considering the games that've come and gone, and the fact that I still game a lot with no issues mean that for me (a user) this card has served me really well. As I said its a fossilised dinosaur already.

^^Morgoth, you gave an example of "f***ing" around with consumers by a brand belonging to one camp, I gave you two from the other camp. Lets prevent TE becoming chaotic shall we? After all unless you spend 500$ on a GTX280 (or are stupid enough to contemplate spending) and so am I, we have nothing much to b1tch about do we? ;)
 
guys which is the best buy right now?

4850 for 180$ Or 4750 for 290$ or GTX 260 for 300$ , will be pairing this up with a dell 22" ultrasharp
 
mutant said:
guys which is the best buy right now?
4850 for 180$ Or 4750 for 290$ or GTX 260 for 300$ , will be pairing this up with a dell 22" ultrasharp

4850 will also run hot, I've tested one at 92 degrees load. Check for the 9800GTX+ also, another option if you can get your hands on one.
 
4850 will also run hot, I've tested one at 92 degrees load. Check for the 9800GTX+ also, another option if you can get your hands on one.

LOL thats known to everyone re Vandy !

Did u try the fan fix in the test labs to find the real potential of the stock fan?

Even with 40% fan, its quite silent and you should get idle of arnd 48-50 degrees and load of 70-75 degrees :P

You are from a renowned publication test labs saar ! So expect some better and clear comments than the last one :)
 
no point in spending 120$ more for like 10-20% increase right?

or will the things get better for 4870 with drivers and we can hope to see it around 150-170% of 4850?
 
Supra said:
LOL thats known to everyone re Vandy !
Did u try the fan fix in the test labs to find the real potential of the stock fan?

Even with 40% fan, its quite silent and you should get idle of arnd 48-50 degrees and load of 70-75 degrees :P

You are from a renowned publication test labs saar ! So expect some better and clear comments than the last one :)

Fan fix done, surprisingly cool down doesn't really occur. Temps affected by some 5 degrees is all. And I'm talking 60% fan speed, temps cross 80 degrees on load. Running in an open system, maybe the directed airflow inside a cabinet helps reduce temps. With the amount of testing we don't use cabinets, and all our rigs are workbench tables :P else our work'd never get done on time.

btw with an 8800GTX temps fall by some 6 degrees inside a cabby as opposed to outside. ATi needs a better cooling solution for these cards. Single slot ain't enough by far. Coupled with their brilliant PCB quality :P. I'm a little scared of the heat as of now.
 
Vandal said:
Fan fix done, surprisingly cool down doesn't really occur. Temps affected by some 5 degrees is all. And I'm talking 60% fan speed, temps cross 80 degrees on load. Running in an open system, maybe the directed airflow inside a cabinet helps.
either the fan fix didnt work, or something else not working, the same problem was there with 3870 x2 as well, even if the fan speed is increased to 30-40% then there is a surprisingly substantial cool down.....and again i am talking about an open system...
 
Fan fix done, surprisingly cool down doesn't really occur. Temps affected by some 5 degrees is all. And I'm talking 60% fan speed, temps cross 80 degrees on load. Running in an open system, maybe the directed airflow inside a cabinet helps reduce temps. With the amount of testing we don't use cabinets, and all our rigs are workbench tables else our work'd never get done on time.

AT 60% it should sound like a hair dryer. Did u notice the sound while you activated the profile. If possible post a GPU-Z screenshot with the "Sensors Tab" whcih confirms the fan speed as well the duty cycle percentage.

Something like this

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I am damn sure , it cant be above 80 load at stock clocks with 60% constant duty cycle.
 
no point in spending 120$ more for like 10-20% increase right?

or will the things get better for 4870 with drivers and we can hope to see it around 150-170% of 4850?
 
no point in spending 120$ more for like 10-20% increase right?

or will the things get better for 4870 with drivers and we can hope to see it around 150-170% of 4850?

Wait for just one-two days. I am testing current the 4850 highly oced vs a stock 4870. results are very promising thats what I can say for now :D
 
At 60% it whines quite loudly, even louder than the X1900XT at startup. It was an ASUS card, and the cards no longer with us, went back 6 days back. Besides I've no time man. Its fun to do this in your free time, but this is my job. My mistake of taking up a career relating to one of my passions :(
 
Besides I've no time man. Its fun to do this in your free time, but this is my job. My mistake of taking up a career relating to one of my passions

I thought ppl tend to work better for things they are passionate with
 
Supra said:
I thought ppl tend to work better for things they are passionate with

I thought that way too. But some passions should stay passions. Lets just say when you work at the same subject matter that you play with both work and play are hard to distinguish from. Ever heard of familiarity breeding contempt? Something like that...
 
Vandal said:
I thought that way too. But some passions should stay passions. Lets just say when you work at the same subject matter that you play with both work and play are hard to distinguish from. Ever heard of familiarity breeding contempt? Something like that...

I know what your saying, at the end of day, I guess its more like you dont wanna see the computer for play or anything more!

Btw

with 4870 on $290, the 260 is for $ 270 after MIR. and if your gonna buy it from us get it from tigerdirect, much cheaper without tax :P
 
with 4870 on $290, the 260 is for $ 270 after MIR. and if your gonna buy it from us get it from tigerdirect, much cheaper without tax

Prob is for folks here in India....GTX 260 lowest price is 299$ (as MIRs wont hold), whereas 4870 is 290$ :P...and ya when a 4850 heavily oced can compare to GTX 260 levels , it should come down to 250$ level to really have a buy rating :)
 
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