A PC for programming and Video encoding

[satish_appasani]

Q: What is your budget?
40K (Budget also includes 10000 max for o/s)

Q: What is your existing hardware configuration (component name - component brand and model)
Monitor: Benq SE2231
Speakers: Cambridge Soundworks 4.1

Q: Which hardware will you be keeping (component name - component brand and model)
Monitor: Benq SE2231
Speakers: Cambridge Soundworks 4.1

Q: Which hardware component are you looking to buy (component name). If you have already decided on a configuration then please mention the (component brand and model) as well, this will help us in fine tuning your requirement.
CPU - Intel Core i5
Motherboard - any compatible motherboard
GPU - Support my 4 years old racing games / HDMI output
RAM: 4GB
HDD: 500GB
Keyboard/Mouse: Wireless
ODD: DVD R/W/RW

Q: Is this going to be your final configuration or you would be adding/upgrading a component in near future. If yes then please mention when and which component
Yes, will upgrade the following within 6 months
ODD: Blueray reader
HDD: 1TB drive

Q: Where will you buy this hardware? (Online/City/TE Dealer)
Hyderabad

Open to online purchase
Yes

Q: Would you consider buying a second hand hardware from the TE market
No

Q: What is your intended use for this PC/hardware
Programming in MS technologies
Video editing (Premiere Elements), encoding & ripping
Browsing

Q: Do you have any brand preference or dislike? Please name them and the reason for your preference/dislike.
Intel CPU

Q: If you will be playing games then which type of games will you be playing?
Racing - 6 years old NFS, Colin McRae rally etc.

Q: What is your preferred monitor resolution for gaming and normal usage

Q: Are you looking to overclock?
No

Q: Which operating system do you intend to use with this configuration?
Windows 7 64 bit

 

[Jaskanwar Singh]

i will suggest you to go for AMD Phenom II x6 1090t as its better than i5 760 in multithreaded apps. moreover you dont need a gpu to play 4 year old games. onboard graphics are sufficient. the motherboard i mentioned has HDMI port..

AMD Phenom II x6 1090t @ 14.5k
MSI 880GMA E45 @ 5.5k
G.Skill 3 * 2GB DDR3 1333MHz @ 6.5k
WD 500GB Blue @ 1.8k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair CX400W @ 2.7k
NZXT Gamma @ 2k
Windows 7 Home Premium @ 5.5k

Total - 39.4k

 

[vip]

intel i5 - 760 9.8k

Asus P7H55 5.5k

CORSAIR XMS3 (2 x 2GB)DDR3 1600(PC3 12800)CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 4.1k

Zotac NVIDIA GeForce GTX 450 8.2k

WD/Seagate 500GB 1.75k

LG 22X SATA DVDRW @ 0.95k

Corsair CX400W 2.7k

CM Elite 310 1.5k

Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 6k

total 40.5k

 

[DarkAngel]

Intel Core i5 760 @ 9.8k
Gigabyte P55M-UD2 @ 6.3k
Corsair XMS3 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz Kit @ 4.1k
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 @ 2.8k
LG 22X SATA DVD @ 0.9k
Corsair VX450W @ 3.5k
NZXT Gamma @ 2.1k
Sapphire HD5670 512MB GDDR5 @ 4.7k
Total: 34.2k

If AMD then wait up for a couple of weeks so that the price drop in US reflects here and u would be getting the 1090T for 12kish

 

[mrcool63]

Dont go for seagate or wd caviar blue.... Go for caviar black 500gb(rs2800) or 1tb(rs4900)

 

[satish_appasani]

How much does an internal Blueray reader cost?

 

[ALPHA17]

Dont go for seagate or wd caviar blue.... Go for caviar black 500gb(rs2800) or 1tb(rs4900)

Not really a great upgrade if you get a Western Digital Caviar Black much better to stick with the Seagate Baracudda 7200.10 performance difference is measly ~ 5% -10% on most realtime scenarios and price is a whole lot 1K higher definetly not VFM

 

[Hades.]

How much does an internal Blueray reader cost?

Blu-Ray reader will cost u 5 to 7 k... BTW why do u want a blu-ray odd? DVD Writer wud just do fine for u

 

[sarang]

I am a regular MS dev and media enthusiast and probably know what you need.

So after being a dev for more than a decade and eaverytime (except the first one) building my own rig, below are my reccomendations:

Power supply: Corsair VX 450 - 3500
Case: NZXT Gamma - 2100
SSD: OCZ VERTEX 2 50GB- 5800
Proc: Intel Core i5 760 - 9800
Mobo: Gigabyte P55M-UD2 - 6300
GSkill Ripjaws 1600MHz 2x2 GB -3500
Seagate 1TB 7200.12 - 2800
LG 22X SATA DVD - 900
Sapphire HD5670 512MB GDDR5 - 4700
OS: Windows 7 Pro - 8000
(I'd never think of earning my bread on a Home Premium box)

Total: ~47000

I know its 7K over your budget, I'd also recommend getting 2 decent case fans and some "egg-crate" for dampening around mobo/gfx/hdds. Works wonders!

A dev box for me needs blink of an eye load times, should be superquite, and run cool enough no provide you peace of mind. You can go for a H55 board for now and think about a GPU a little later or add the SSD a little later if you wish.

 

[Hades.]

I am a regular MS dev and media enthusiast and probably know what you need.

So after being a dev for more than a decade and eaverytime (except the first one) building my own rig, below are my reccomendations:

Power supply: Corsair VX 450 - 3500

Case: NZXT Gamma - 2100

SSD: OCZ VERTEX 2 50GB- 5800

Proc: Intel Core i5 760 - 9800

Mobo: Gigabyte P55M-UD2 - 6300

GSkill Ripjaws 1600MHz 2x2 GB -3500

Seagate 1TB 7200.12 - 2800

LG 22X SATA DVD - 900

Sapphire HD5670 512MB GDDR5 - 4700

OS: Windows 7 Pro - 8000

(I'd never think of earning my bread on a Home Premium box)

Total: ~47000

I know its 7K over your budget, I'd also recommend getting 2 decent case fans and some "egg-crate" for dampening around mobo/gfx/hdds. Works wonders!

A dev box for me needs blink of an eye load times, should be superquite, and run cool enough no provide you peace of mind. You can go for a H55 board for now and think about a GPU a little later or add the SSD a little later if you wish.

His budget is 30k... read his thread carefully... 30K Rig + 10K Windows 7 OS = 40K

 

[sarang]

His budget is 30k... read his thread carefully... 30K Rig + 10K Windows 7 OS = 40K

I have included the correct price for the OS, its 8K (Win7 Pro X64)

 

[DarkAngel]

I have included the correct price for the OS, its 8K (Win7 Pro X64)

Is AMD PhenomII X6 1075T(6 cores, 3GHz) ~ 9.3k/ AMD PhenomII X6 1090T(6 cores, 3.2GHz) ~ 11k + MSI 880GMA-E45 (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gbps) ~ 5.3k better for his usage when compared to i-5 760?

 

[Hades.]

Components Description Price (INR)

Processor AMD Phenom II x6 1055T 8600

Motherboard Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H 4800

RAM G.Skill Ripjaws 1600MHz CL9 3600

HDD 1TB Seagate 7200.12 2750

GPU Sapphire HD5670 512MB 4700

Monitor N/A

Cabinet NZXT Gamma 2100

PSU/SMPS Corsair VX450 3500

Key Board Logitech Combo 700

Mouse NA -

ODD L.G./Samung/ SOny OEM SATA DVD-Writer 950

OS Windows 7 Professional 64Bit 8000

Total 39700

This rig has 6 Core Processor which will help u in video encoding

A Motherboard which has Sata 6GBPS + USB3 which will make ur rig a bit futureproof

Tip: Programming can even be done on a pentium 4 pc but video encoding does require computational power

Is AMD PhenomII X6 1075T(6 cores, 3GHz) ~ 9.3k/ AMD PhenomII X6 1090T(6 cores, 3.2GHz) ~ 11k + MSI 880GMA-E45 (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gbps) ~ 5.3k better for his usage when compared to i-5 760?

Ofcourse DarkAngel... Video encoding does require more cores... And what u have advised wud b great for his usuage...

 

[sarang]

Is AMD PhenomII X6 1075T(6 cores, 3GHz) ~ 9.3k/ AMD PhenomII X6 1090T(6 cores, 3.2GHz) ~ 11k + MSI 880GMA-E45 (USB 3.0, SATA 6Gbps) ~ 5.3k better for his usage when compared to i-5 760?

It sure is, but he's mentioned his inclination towards for the i5 hence most of us were recommending an i5.

Tip: Programming can even be done on a pentium 4 pc but video encoding does require computational power

Big Myth, please avoid FUD.:no: No offence meant but try running VS2010 + MSSQL 2008 R2 (Let alone Denali) + IIS + Expression Blend4 (If working with SL / WPF) and let us know the experience.
And I am not even mentioning HTTP debuggers and other supplimentary tools here. Development is no more Borland TC++ anymore.

 

[Hades.]

It sure is, but he's mentioned his inclination towards for the i5 hence most of us were recommending an i5.

Big Myth, please avoid FUD.:no: No offence meant but try running VS2010 + MSSQL 2008 R2 (Let alone Denali) + IIS + Expression Blend4 (If working with SL / WPF) and let us know the experience.

And I am not even mentioning HTTP debuggers and other supplimentary tools here. Development is no more Borland TC++ anymore.

Do u think Sarang... Institutes keep high end pcs to teach their students programming... no they dont... Video encoding does require more computational power than programming... but i do think that doing programming on a high end pc wud b great but programming can even b done on a low end pc...

 

[DarkAngel]

Do u think Sarang... Institutes keep high end pcs to teach their students programming... no they dont... Video encoding does require more computational power than programming... but i do think that doing programming on a high end pc wud b great but programming can even b done on a low end pc...

Errr.... Not really... Our college labs were upgraded to C2D's and 2GB RAM long back in mid-2007 itself. Not sure whether they run i-3's now Running VS 2008 in a P4 with 1GB RAM would be a struggle.

 

[sarang]

Do u think Sarang... Institutes keep high end pcs to teach their students programming... no they dont... Video encoding does require more computational power than programming... but i do think that doing programming on a high end pc wud b great but programming can even b done on a low end pc...

Think about a practicing doctor/engineer would you be comfortable using their services if they used sub-par equipment? Even if you go to an average Engg college the equipment you find there is nothing to sing about, however when your livelyhood depends on something you'd better get the best that you could afford.

The institutes teach one topic at a time and can't reflect the real-life scenarios on a typical dev box where you'd have most of the stuff I mentioned above running (The tool names will vary from platform to platform but the gist remains the same).

PS: I've been coding for a living for more than a decade now.

 

[Hades.]

Errr.... Not really... Our college labs were upgraded to C2D's and 2GB RAM long back in mid-2007 itself. Not sure whether they run i-3's now Running VS 2008 in a P4 with 1GB RAM would be a struggle.

But not every institute have pc's with core 2 duo processors... and visual studio can b run on a p4 pc... but yeah experince of visual studio on a core 2 duo rig wud b different... i m not denying this

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Think about a practicing doctor/engineer would you be comfortable using their services if they used sub-par equipment?

Do u think indians use all the new equipments that americans use to do operations and stuff? no right? But indians can do that stuff by old equipments right?

Its just that doing programming on a multi core processor rig wud different than on a single core processor rig... but both rigs can b used for doing programming...

 

[DarkAngel]

But not every institute have pc's with core 2 duo processors... and visual studio can b run on a p4 pc... but yeah experince of visual studio on a core 2 duo rig wud b different... i m not denying this

AFAIK even avg. and below avg. colleges(in my locality at least) have migrated most of their CS/IT labs at least to C2D systems a year back. Yes there might still be colleges that could not afford to upgrade.

Experience is all that matters. Isnt it

 

[Hades.]

AFAIK even avg. and below avg. colleges(in my locality at least) have migrated most of their CS/IT labs at least to C2D systems a year back. Yes there might still be colleges that could not afford to upgrade.

Experience is all that matters. Isnt it

Yes colleges are migrating to multi core processors bcoz these days companies are releasing dev softwares which are capable of using more than one core... and on a single core processor these softwares may lag...