Adani group, an Evil corp?
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eternoMind
Level G
Ready to be anyone's fan that advances India's interests
That too, sir, no worries.
And how do you define this is India's interests? And just for the sake of discussion don't put comment involving "US, soros and other big countries try to bring down India by bringing down Adani".Ready to be anyone's fan that advances India's interests
Wow, my sweet summer child..
, inevitable in chronic nepotistic form of capitalism, guard rails tends to slip away...
We all know it's difficult to wake up those who pretend to sleep, but It's all good in case at least one start questioning in a rational and reasonable way.
Or if they know that others can, even if they themselves are incapable of.
Disdain crony capitalism here due to multitude of obvious reasons, which is does not require explanation.
Even if that is inevitable in your books, risk of putting all eggs in one basket should've been avoided. But no, it have to be this way (a way which needs lot of explanations). But what is happening here is beyond chronic level nepotism.
Probably, being 'vishwakuru' side effects. Not into falling for mirages or maayaleelas by smoking biased political chillum. Prefer to be Agnostic to politics here, so no friends and don't want enemies too.
eternoMind
Level G
Geopolitical advantage. To secure our borders, integrity, economy et al. If you don't think these are fronts on which we face threats, I understand why you think all this is ooga-booga.
If Adani is useful to that end, I'm a fan. If he's not, he should be thrown under the bus and discarded, as I'm sure any govt would do once they realize he brings no value.
Yes, I do think you're incapable of it, though I don't like using those very colourful descriptors you do as they take away from the point.Wow, my sweet summer child..
We all know it's difficult to wake up those who pretend to sleep, but It's all good in case at least one start questioning in a rational and reasonable way.
Or if they know that others can, even if they themselves are incapable of.
Disdain crony capitalism here due to multitude of obvious reasons, which is does not required explanation.
Even if that is inevitable in your books, risk of putting all eggs in one basket should've been avoided. But no, it have to be this way (a way which needs lot of explanations). But what is happening here is beyond chronic level nepotism.
Probably, being 'vishwakuru' side effects. Not into falling for mirages or maayaleelas by smoking one-sided political chillum. Prefer to be Agnostic to politics here, so no friends and don't want enemies too.
And 'vishwaguru' is a valid aspiration. But you ridicule it because you're probably misunderstanding what it means. It's another word for 'soft power' and once we have enough hard power (economic and military heft), it will add to our soft power by allowing us to influence policy in countries beyond our geographical field of influence (which is currently just the subcontinent and a few smaller countries around it). You're probably confusing 'influence' with 'domination'. We'll never be as powerful to 'dominate', but in a multipolar world, we can be powerful enough to dominate an 'influential' bloc/grouping.
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It can be done by several corporations, no need to be a single corporation alone, risks can be distributed and mitigated by this way. Who deployed them as the sole non-questionable guardians of the nation ?
How many times allegations came up and how many times they alone have to be protected ?
Do they exist to protect nation's interest, or they exist to be protected by the nation ?
Keep dreaming.
At least, my thinking guard rails didn't fall off, neither my intends are corrupt. As far as thinking capability is concerned, yeah, mine is colorful without smoking mirage of political chillum as posted earlier...
Not wanting national and geo-political risk to be concentrated on the tip of a single corpn with multitude of murky allegations, that is all.
Ridiculed because it is failing due to nepotism, inefficiency and shallow thinking, the idea is very good but during execution guard rails is falling off.
Understand that, by Adani is not sole phalanx to execute that.
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eternoMind
Level G
This is what I meant when I said crony capitalism is not a sufficient condition. Few conglomerates have the execution ability that Adani does. It's similar to how few have the execution ability of an Ambani when it comes to grand projects he takes up. There's a reason 'factor markets' is an established theory in economics.
If the allegations are geopolitically motivated, keep protecting (as any govt in the world would do).
Dreaming is for those asleep. The day he is a drag on the country's interests, he'll be discarded, as it should be.
That's okay. It's like the first time I stepped into a large factory, my mind couldn't wrap around the scale of things. What I assumed to be one thing in the micro, turned out different in the macro. Multivariate systems are like that, they mess with your reasoning and worldview.At least, my thinking guard rails didn't fall off, neither my intends are corrupt. As far as thinking capability is concerned, yeah, mine is colorful without smoking mirage of political chillum as posted earlier...
Not wanting national and geo-political risk to be concentrated on the tip of a single corpn with multitude of murky allegations, that is all.
No, we're doing good, given our constraints. We'd be much better when we're at $10k per capita GDP (nominal). We can buy out these malcontents.
I agree. We should have 10 Adanis, like the US did at the turn of the 19th century. Their gilded age was made by these crony capitalists.
Anyway, good chat, minus the barbs from fellow members. Gotta prep for my stand-up, see ya'll.
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Then why you are acting so naive and trying to support it ?
Because Adani are not curtailed unlike others, rather awarded with tremendous debt and they only are supplanted and allowed that power.
Yes, keep on protecting a single corpn, which in your own books:
I share your opinion here:
So, keep dreaming.
Hint for short awakening: country's huge debt is owned by him, his own interests is now country's interest. Any risk faced by him is a collateral damage to the country. Protecting him is now country's geo-political macro level risk already. Guess how naive Indians got played into this due to vishagurus and political chillum smokers..
Seeing enough factories will change your aptitude.
Part of how to be a vishaguru too, having lot of trump cards will let you pay your chances well and win other countries, unlike whats happening now. Reason why you need to diversify risks.
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Emperor
Level H
Citing the US federal prosecutor's indictment, Malviya said the states where government officials were paid bribes allegedly by the Adani Group were Odisha, Tamil Nadu, Chhattisgarh and Andhra Pradesh between July 2021 and February 2022. All these were ruled by opposition parties.
"All the States mentioned here were Opposition ruled during that time. So, before you pontificate, answer on the bribes the Congress and its allies accepted," he said. read more
"All the States mentioned here were Opposition ruled during that time. So, before you pontificate, answer on the bribes the Congress and its allies accepted," he said. read more
raheel_kumar
New Member
Doesnt seem like an Evil corp, its similar to other big croporation in this country. Is big now in India so faces a lot of backlash, I am not saying they are the best out there, but for any corp to become as big it has, has to make a deal with the devil and they probably did as well.
Good if proven. Atleast then people won't support adani as national interest.
eternoMind
Level G
They won't be. Trump will use it as leverage, he's transactional in his worldview.
@eternoMind
Hope this help Indians to wake up from sleepy slumber.
economictimes.indiatimes.com
www.thehindubusinessline.com
^^Wonder why India as a country have to hear this music ?
Writ filed challenging legality of power deal with Adani, in Bangladesh
Note that they have huge amounts in arrears.
My earlier comments:
Hope this help Indians to wake up from sleepy slumber.
Kenya cancels power transmission deal with Adani following US bribery charges
Kenyan President William Ruto announced the cancellation of two major deals involving India's Adani Group. The first is the procurement process for expanding Kenya's main airport, and the second is a $700 million power transmission agreement with an Adani unit. The cancellations follow U.S...
Sri Lanka ‘should be vigilant’ about Adani power deal following US indictment
Experts warn Sri Lanka to monitor Adani power project amid fraud allegations, urging anti-corruption measures.
Adani’s US ‘arrest warrant’ over bribery: Foreign media points to ‘text trail, ties with Modi’
Newslaundry could not find any coverage of the issue on NDTV’s website at the time of writing this report.
www.newslaundry.com
Writ filed challenging legality of power deal with Adani, in Bangladesh
Note that they have huge amounts in arrears.
My earlier comments:
Who knows what more is in the store.