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Air India Ahmedabad-London flight Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner crashes near airport in Ahmedabad
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Hamare yeha bhi golmaal hai sab.
Black_Hawk
Juggernaut
No other option really. Let them just analyze it and hopefully the results come out soon. So many theories about how the aircraft met it's doom are floating around now so we need some level of clarity.
Huge discussion going on Airliners (dot)net forum as well and PPrune(dot)org. Mods closed the thread on PPrune because it was leading to many guesswork theories. Airliners forum discussion is still on and quite insightful.
Rising incidence of flights returning in the days after the crash is a very strong signal that security measures were being ignored amid breakneck growth in recent years.
I read that Boeing had manufactured 11 787s that had safety and structural issues and were flagged by their internal safety auditor. Management told her, "Don't worry, none of these planes will be used in the United States." 6 of those 11 were sold to Air India, including the one that crashed. Apparently DGCA knew something was amiss, but never raised any alarm then.
"Cynthia Kitchens, a former quality manager who worked at the Charleston plant between 2009 and 2016, has a binder full of notes, documents and photos from her frustrating years at Boeing, one page of which lists the numbers of the eleven planes delivered between early 2012 and late 2013 whose quality defects most kept her awake at night. Six of them went to Air India, whose purchases were bolstered by billions of dollars in Export-Import Bank loan guarantees. The plane that crashed was delivered in January 2014 from Boeing’s now-defunct assembly line in Everett, Washington, though its mid- and aft- fuselages were produced in Charleston."
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DigitalDude
Innovator
Ah he returned to his usual programming with this issue. Less of him please.
It was the French BEA, not NTSB. And they published their report independently, not leaked it, because the Egyptian government gained more from the propaganda of it being a terrorist attack and not having to admit their pilot smoking in the cockpit against the rules.
But in general, the general lack of understanding of how all these investigation agencies have made air travel safer over the years is astounding. People just find it easier to accept conspiracy theories because a logical explanation, that will also be in the current investigation report, is too simple.
Yeah, but your point was also valid that governments can block final reports from being officially published as was the case with the Egyptian government then.
Think they finally published their report last year after 8 years and maintained the terrorist angle but were forced to add the French report as an appendix.
This gives more credibility to reports coming out from NTSB and BEA than government bodies.
‘Shaking, hissing, growling door mid-air’: Air India Boeing 787 flight to Hong Kong spooks flyers; crew plugs gap with napkins to 'fix' issue | Mumbai News - Times of India
An Air India flight from Delhi to Hong Kong experienced a mid-air door malfunction, causing unsettling noises and shaking. Flight attendants used napk
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
IndiGo Flight Declared 'Mayday' Due To Low Fuel, Landed Safely: Sources
Budget carrier IndiGo's Guwahati-Chennai flight, with 168 passengers, made an emergency landing in Bengaluru after pilots declared 'mayday' due to "insufficient fuel", said sources.
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Black_Hawk
Juggernaut
Civil Aviation Minister K Rammohan Naidu on Tuesday said the black box of the Air India plane which crashed in Ahmedabad earlier this month was being examined by the Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau, and dismissed speculation that it would be sent abroad for an inquiry.
I hope the AAIB can analyze and extract the needed info.
I hope the AAIB can analyze and extract the needed info.
Stopping plane with worn out tyres from taking off to faded runway central line: DGCA audit finds multiple lapses:
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Stopping plane with worn out tyres from taking off to faded runway central line: DGCA audit finds multiple lapses | India News - Times of India
India News: A DGCA audit of India's aviation sector has revealed safety lapses, including worn aircraft tires, recurring defects due to ineffective repairs, and f
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Black_Hawk
Juggernaut
U.S. National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB) Chair Jennifer Homendy told reporters in Washington on Tuesday that she has had "excellent communication with those within the Indian government, the Ministry of Civil Aviation, also our counterpart at the AAIB."
Asked where or when the recorders will be read or if they would come to the United States or whether officials had any concerns, Homendy declined to comment.
"That is something that has to be worked out," Homendy said. "When it comes to aviation safety, learning information shortly thereafter and obtaining that information is a key part of the investigative process, so clearly that's going to help us glean more information to ensure, 'Is there a safety issue or safety deficiency that needs to be addressed?'"
Homendy also declined to comment on whether either recorder had been damaged.
Source: Link
Asked where or when the recorders will be read or if they would come to the United States or whether officials had any concerns, Homendy declined to comment.
"That is something that has to be worked out," Homendy said. "When it comes to aviation safety, learning information shortly thereafter and obtaining that information is a key part of the investigative process, so clearly that's going to help us glean more information to ensure, 'Is there a safety issue or safety deficiency that needs to be addressed?'"
Homendy also declined to comment on whether either recorder had been damaged.
Source: Link
The other Boeing incidents were also covered in the same briefing.
Boeing failed to provide training to prevent MAX 9 midair emergency: NTSB
The US agency harshly criticised Boeing’s safety culture as well as ineffective oversight by the FAA.
As suspected . Indians will not hand over the black box ?The other Boeing incidents were also covered in the same briefing.
Boeing failed to provide training to prevent MAX 9 midair emergency: NTSB
The US agency harshly criticised Boeing’s safety culture as well as ineffective oversight by the FAA.www.aljazeera.com
We do not have the facility to decode them , yet we will not ship them to Boeing ?
Clear smell of sabotage than anything else .
Like the Egypt case mentioned earlier in this thread, you do get an uneasy feeling when investigation agencies are not delinked from the political setup completely.
However, since this is a joint investigation, we will come to know if the data is not shared with NTSB or the UK AAIB, which would provide a good idea of the investigation is motivated by other factors.
Mostly I think not because India is now too globalised to allow these kind of things to happen.
From the time of crash , every day there is some news or the other about Air India . Seems like some crony desires it and Modi wants to help . When Pahlgam happened , there was so much news against Celebi and then Celebi got taken over by Adani .
Black_Hawk
Juggernaut
I don't know why India didn't send the Black Boxes to the NTSB or some other agency in Europe for analysis and date recovery? They clearly stated their lab here doesn't have the necessary equipment to analyze and retrieve the needed data from the Black Boxes then why are they hanging onto them and delaying the entire process?