Forum Feedback Allowing only thumbnail images in show-off n mkt section!!!

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I have always been a non-conformist at heart.

I do believe there should be rules but not for every little thing.

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Full Size Image (optimized = 200kb approx.)

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Thumbnail (links to unoptimized full detail jpeg. I suggest you don't click this. Its >8 MB in size)



You should encourage people to optimize their pics for bandwidth instead of imposing rules on posting content. :)

I for one would want people to upload more pics of their stuff in greater detail, especially in the show off section.
 
This thread isnt about controlling content itself, just the bandwidth consideration for other users, same as what you are thinking I believe...
 
Quiet frankly this all bw issue is getting old.

Some people even complained about 100x100 avatars and stupid sigs.

Now this. Its 21 century and even in country like india, 56k is almost gone from most cities and towns.

Pics are used only where pics make sense. Noone is using pics at random. When you are interested in seeing those section, why complain about bandwidth??

And how many pics are there in 1 thread usually, 2/3/4??

Most users who are posting too many HQ pics do add 56k warning in thread title, or we edit the title to include that. That should be more than enough.

We already have heavy restrictions on avatars and siggies and smilies.

A polite request to someone to resize the pics will usually do the trick. I honestly dont think there is any need to force the same. Just infracting people for every small rule violation all day long is no fun...
 
the "auto infract" comment was in jest. even though i have a 512 kbps UL connection it still annoys me no end when a few hi-res large size pics are posted... for people with bandwidth restrictions its a real problem beyond just annoyances... for example in the game screenshots thread you post 10 shots and i might only be interested in looking at a couple in detail... thumbnails help here
 
i think that auto image resize simply resizes the image AFTER downloading the whole thing :) i think people posting large images without image hosting should be dealt in the same way as people doing hotlinking... a polite reminder/warning should suffice so it repeats less often...
 
Gannu said:
^Amen to that. Someone had posted a friggin' 8MP image for a tube of MX2 on the Everyday Show-off thread. God damn it, the thing brought down my bandwidth to its knees. :@
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i guess that would be me :ashamed:

anyways i support the cause :D

it is really irritating even in post your screen shot thread those things should carry a huge b**ch of a 56K warning :P
 
Its ridiculous how some people put in the full size images and expect everyone to waste their bandwidth. I removed all images from two FS threads yesterday and closed the trade. How difficult is it to post a petty thumbnail and interested people to click on it if they are desperate enough to see the full sized images. :@ :@ :@

I say it should be made mandatory to post the thumbnails ONLY. There are still people who are not on an unlimited 2Mbps connection. They would want to use their BW wisely and yet be able to check out the threads even if it has a 'BW Warning' attached to it.

Educating them to post the optimized version is like teaching them how to search on google. Impossible! However every image upload site gives you the link to the thumbnail, so its very easy.
 
^^+1 .. In-spite people getting fast connection doesn't mean they like to load each and every bit of those HQ images..Specially in market section, people post ultra HQ images which make loading PITA...

The auto resize is nothing but to avoid the vertical scroll bar nothing fancy, its a crap plugin which 1'st download the whole stuff then resize .. I still didn't get why people prioritize that thing :|

Posting thumbnails is pretty easy. All the hosting websites now has easy to generate and use Bulletin Board codes.. and if you still don't know to use them, please learn it cause it is creating a lot of trouble for others...

I still don't believe people fail to resize and optimize images !! Its easier than clicking images :P

Kindly read this http://www.techenclave.com/site-announcements/image-hosting-guidlines-a-must-read-136550.html | http://www.techenclave.com/guides-and-tutorials/image-posting-guidelines-a-must-read-130545.html
 
Actually in market it does make a difference :P

If you open a thread and you are welcomed to shiny good looking item it does influence buyers decision. That is why you see those big posters, shiny pics in stores as well :P

Many times someone does not really want to buy something, but they come in, see the condition of item without needing one more click on thumbnail to open big pic ( yeah people are that lazy sometimes ;) ) and they make decision right there.

But yeah, optimising image is not that difficult. If you use simple paint and save it as jpeg, it saves the image to 70% quality by default which are not that large in terms of KB.

Personally I would want probable buyers to see whole images upfront in market. It does make a difference as thats the first impression they get of product.

Same goes to showoff. People want to showoff their new stuff.

Its both ways. You are expecting someone to show restraint for your convenience. But then shouldnt you also be ready to sacrifice something for other person's wishes / convenience?

SHowoff and market are for OP and probable buyers, it should be left to them how they want to represent their items within our market rules...

Everywhere else, make thumbs mandatory (except maybe screenshot thread ), noone will care.
 
Actually even screenshot threads should be thumbnailed... even though we go in there with the intent of looking at the shots we still don't want to wait for all of them to download just to find one or two good ones...

A good example of things done right are the few 1080p wallpaper threads, people are posting all thumbnails and if we like one we click that to view the detailed version...
 
Am just curious... how many of you like to scroll the window to see an image in full...?? I would prefer to be able to see an image that fills the screen, rather than seeing the left 2/3rds first, scroll and then see the remaining right 1/3rd... :P

My point is, I'd prefer if inline images are restricted to a maximum of 1024px width or something of the sort... This would be a better option for those who do not want to use the small thumbnails.. :D
 
hp-india said:
Am just curious... how many of you like to scroll the window to see an image in full...?? I would prefer to be able to see an image that fills the screen, rather than seeing the left 2/3rds first, scroll and then see the remaining right 1/3rd... :P
My point is, I'd prefer if inline images are restricted to a maximum of 1024px width or something of the sort... This would be a better option for those who do not want to use the small thumbnails.. :D
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That is no longer a problem here. All images are auto resized to fit the screen.
The main problem ( if it is a problem :P) is bandwidth.
 
Shripad said:
Its both ways. You are expecting someone to show restraint for your convenience. But then shouldnt you also be ready to sacrifice something for other person's wishes / convenience?
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But Shripad someone else is paying for someone else' convenience. A person on a bandwidth limitation of 2GB/month would stay away from such threads for his own good. He cant be told to buzz off unless he gets a 10GB/month or unlimited connection.

Consider XT, he had all images turned off on forums all the time coz he was on a limited connection. Tell me what good a mod is he if he cant even see whats happening on the forum :bleh:

As for product display, I dont agree to what you have said on impulse buying, maybe I am wrong. I do agree that people will not click on all the images (in market or showoff) unless they really want to see it. But thats like giving them the choice. Also you dont need to see the product image in 1600X1200 dimension or above to appreciate it. I agree with what hp-india said.

Let me suggest a compromise instead. Post only thumbnails of all images BUT you can post one single full size image of your choice out of those. That limits the load that it will have on the connection. The image resize hack will kick in quickly as it has only one full size image to load. And the exposure of the product is still maintained for others to appreciate in showoff and splurge in market.

:)
 
Well, it will be headache for us to check all threads if there is any restriction placed on images. And mind you people wont be happy with it. Too many restriction for whatever reason is never a good thing.

Personally I resize all my images, but not many prefer to do that ( and even I prefer them to be big enough to see product details like scratches, rust, damage if any etc etc ). And there are only handful of people who have posted too many big pics in their market threads.

Most are posting 800x600 or 102x76x images only. Just few people post big images once a while.

And about impulse purchases because of good condition of products and images is not a theory, I have sold many items bcoz of this :P

If product is in immaculate condition, you want everyone to see it and most of the times you get a buyer because of that.

A person with better pics is more likely to get the buyer than person posting crappy pics of products where one cant tell the condition of the product.

This is more relevant when you are selling something like mobile, MP3 player etc than PC hardware.

And with people on limited connection : well frankly they need to get better connection :P

I can understand where there is no choice, but thats not the reason to impose blanket restriction for everyone. Even I was forced to just read TE from mobile using GPRS for 4 months and thats the reason I didnt post or even bothered to log in. But that does not mean everyone should suffer.

If there is to be any restriction, let it be on file size. 300-400KB should be ok for most things. And I still think it should be last resort.
 
^^ youre talking about 300Kb for one image. what happens when three or more such images are there in a post? That becomes more than 1mb per page.

I usually dont go to the photography thread cause of this.

people like me on a 256k ul connection have to pause downloads just to be able to see these pics. most of the time only half of the images load. i cant afford to upgrade my connection since there's only bsnl here with a 1gb limit a month.
 
I'd say post a pic of each product @ 1024*768. Rest of the pics can be in thumbnail. This way everyone gets to see what the product is and also view it in high resolution. I don't understand how hard is it to resize a picture. If you are on XP you can download the powertoy which can resize a pictures in just 2 or 3 clicks. If a members feels lazy to resize a picture i don't have anything to say.
 
Aare thats the problem. Spatial resolution means nothing. 1024x768 image can be 500-600 kb big if someone decides to save it as tiff or bmp :P

Like free radical said, let there be restriction on image data size. Thats what matters if people are concerned about bandwidth.

@6pack : BSNL in mumbai? :S :S

In fact bsnl currently have best unlimited plans in the country.

Those who are really wary of images, there are multiple ways to block all images and multiple addons which allow you to load only those images which you want to see by right clicking them. Available for both FF and Opera ( dont know about IE, but something similar should be there. )

Then you can selectively load thumbs or big pics as you wish ( opera leaves empty frame in place of image so you know if its thumb or image ).

If you want to save your bw, there are plenty of ways to do so. There is no point in restricting use of images / pics, charts in technology forum. There are plenty of threads where users post images of new launches, their specification charts, leaked screenshots.

If thumbs is made compulsory everything will have to change and news threads will not be the same again. Still it can be managed, but do consider all this before implementing thumb restrictions as there are countless possibilities where use of thumbs will be counter-productive.

And even we as mods cant go around checking every thread to decide if use of full images in particular thread is valid or not.

If we do decide I am sure after the restrictions are in place another 10 people will turn up in this section complaining about images removed from their thread but not from someone else's :P
 
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