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Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Another thread about our glorious dealer, nothing new!
@Nash: Almost everyone knows about Amarbir here. If you want to buy from him, you need lots and lots of patience
(Did I missed anything? )
Another thread about our glorious dealer, nothing new!
@Nash: Almost everyone knows about Amarbir here. If you want to buy from him, you need lots and lots of patience
(Did I missed anything? )Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Welcome to the nightmare that is "Dealing With Amarbir". Since he seemed a reputed dealer in TE, I went by some suggestions for a GC purchase and ordered it from his site. Initially till I made the payment everything was ok. But after that till I received the product, which took 25 days from date of payment, it was a nightmare dealing with him.
Just to give you an idea, see the screen-shot of my conversation with him. Be assured that you will get the product that you paid for. But after getting it, you will swear to yourself that you will never deal with him.
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Welcome to the nightmare that is "Dealing With Amarbir". Since he seemed a reputed dealer in TE, I went by some suggestions for a GC purchase and ordered it from his site. Initially till I made the payment everything was ok. But after that till I received the product, which took 25 days from date of payment, it was a nightmare dealing with him.
Just to give you an idea, see the screen-shot of my conversation with him. Be assured that you will get the product that you paid for. But after getting it, you will swear to yourself that you will never deal with him.
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Its high time Amarbir learns what is customer service!!.Never give a time line to customer when you can not achieve it.I am sure he has a reason for talking like that ,he might say he is busy with something else my products are stuck in customs.This is not how business is done .No one is interested what are your problems when you give a time line try to make sure you reach it in case you cannot mail the customer or call him up.Be polite while talking,have a smile on your face when you talk.
There is no use of having chat systems embedded to you website and giving your numbers when you are not professional enough .
I wonder how even he manages to do business even without a pinch of customer service in his records.
I have written the above because i have seen enough rants about Amarbir.He is a great dealer,i did have a couple of deals with him when i was in India but the biggest problem i used to face is he used to call and talk for hours together which is no way related to deal
Amarbir Sir do not take it to heart try to improve your customer service and you will rock in business.
Its high time Amarbir learns what is customer service!!.Never give a time line to customer when you can not achieve it.I am sure he has a reason for talking like that ,he might say he is busy with something else my products are stuck in customs.This is not how business is done .No one is interested what are your problems when you give a time line try to make sure you reach it in case you cannot mail the customer or call him up.Be polite while talking,have a smile on your face when you talk.
There is no use of having chat systems embedded to you website and giving your numbers when you are not professional enough .
I wonder how even he manages to do business even without a pinch of customer service in his records.
I have written the above because i have seen enough rants about Amarbir.He is a great dealer,i did have a couple of deals with him when i was in India but the biggest problem i used to face is he used to call and talk for hours together which is no way related to deal
Amarbir Sir do not take it to heart try to improve your customer service and you will rock in business.
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
for everybodies info>
Amarbir is a great dealer, and as said above, you will have to learn a new level of patience. And if you are patient enough, there is no better dealer. He even ships before payment, or could ship a better and expensive product than we asked for after informing us beforehand even if thats not what we want sometimes. But that says> he not upto double crossing anybody. Maybe there is spome other source of great mental stress for him, seriously affecting his business.
there were times i had waited for weeks for a confirmation, and months for shipments
but its worth it. After all he one of the best audiophile dealer here.
btw, i learned it the hard way. Just remember the above, and everything ll be fine.
[i had even waite3d 2 months for some logisys fan orders> and finally got the answer that it was out of stock. And when i asked why he made the order "paymend pending", he said it was in stock at that time. i make payment after two days and it was sold off. He was delaying and was non resposive coz, he was anticipating another shipments of fresh stock of same.......(and i waited 2 months). Finally changed order. I had made similar thread here before on this. But i learned it the hard way, that u should go with a different strategy with lynx. You can improve patience and mental control, and its a nice test for the same. Thats what i think]
cheers
no offense to anybody, and @ Amarbir sir : i respect you. But still if you could be more of a ...... oops leave it. have seen this before
for everybodies info>
Amarbir is a great dealer, and as said above, you will have to learn a new level of patience. And if you are patient enough, there is no better dealer. He even ships before payment, or could ship a better and expensive product than we asked for after informing us beforehand even if thats not what we want sometimes. But that says> he not upto double crossing anybody. Maybe there is spome other source of great mental stress for him, seriously affecting his business.
there were times i had waited for weeks for a confirmation, and months for shipments
but its worth it. After all he one of the best audiophile dealer here.btw, i learned it the hard way. Just remember the above, and everything ll be fine.
[i had even waite3d 2 months for some logisys fan orders> and finally got the answer that it was out of stock. And when i asked why he made the order "paymend pending", he said it was in stock at that time. i make payment after two days and it was sold off. He was delaying and was non resposive coz, he was anticipating another shipments of fresh stock of same.......(and i waited 2 months). Finally changed order. I had made similar thread here before on this. But i learned it the hard way, that u should go with a different strategy with lynx. You can improve patience and mental control, and its a nice test for the same. Thats what i think
]cheers
no offense to anybody, and @ Amarbir sir : i respect you. But still if you could be more of a ...... oops leave it. have seen this before
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Before we have the lynx india fanboys trashing the thread, do realize we have atleast 3 threads opened on the first page in the market feedback against lynx India. People will not wait for 25 days, especially after making the payments. There are some who will ignore such antics and give positive feedbacks after getting the products, whereas there are some who find it extremely irritating. Its not a question of refunding money but its about getting the product properly.
I said it before and will say it again, if a product did not arrive in the time frame given, was not informed about the delay or any other problems given- why do people eventually accept the product and end up giving positive feedback? I don't see many neutral or even negative feedback. Out of bunch of them, there's only one. The more people will do this the more the dealers will take advantage. Forums is for the people and if people don't give honest feedbacks, you're simply giving the dealers the temptation to take advantage of it.
Why do people dealing via TE have to register on his (lynx's) forum? Why do people have to post over there when people who dealt via TE has such problems? Pretty simply, amarbir can remove all the threads and posts that display the negative feedback, whereas in TE, one can't remove it unless mods/admins delete the thread, which they will not do it.
If he can't handle the pressure why does he have so many threads in the trade section?
I remember renegade said the following: http://www.techenclave.com/1404554-post57.html
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Before we have the lynx india fanboys trashing the thread, do realize we have atleast 3 threads opened on the first page in the market feedback against lynx India. People will not wait for 25 days, especially after making the payments. There are some who will ignore such antics and give positive feedbacks after getting the products, whereas there are some who find it extremely irritating. Its not a question of refunding money but its about getting the product properly.
I said it before and will say it again, if a product did not arrive in the time frame given, was not informed about the delay or any other problems given- why do people eventually accept the product and end up giving positive feedback? I don't see many neutral or even negative feedback. Out of bunch of them, there's only one. The more people will do this the more the dealers will take advantage. Forums is for the people and if people don't give honest feedbacks, you're simply giving the dealers the temptation to take advantage of it.
nash8789 said:
Why do people dealing via TE have to register on his (lynx's) forum? Why do people have to post over there when people who dealt via TE has such problems? Pretty simply, amarbir can remove all the threads and posts that display the negative feedback, whereas in TE, one can't remove it unless mods/admins delete the thread, which they will not do it.
If he can't handle the pressure why does he have so many threads in the trade section?
I remember renegade said the following: http://www.techenclave.com/1404554-post57.html
And I quote:
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Trusted, well yeah he is trustworthy but that is only valid if you can trust what he says to begin with which is false in all the cases
Lets cut the crap, this is not the first time Amarbir has done this and certainly not the last. It is one of the reason why I only ever had 1 deal with Amarbir and that didnt turn out fruitful and I am in mood of discussing it. Just think of it as a sour fruit.
Anyways to all the trustworthyness, l33tness and greatness, Amarbir is just another dealer who is like far far away and takes his own sweet time to do things. Amarbir, why dont you sometime try to send the product to us first and take the money later. Feel how it feels to be us. Just try it once, I bet you wont even be able to sleep at nights.
Lets end this here, we know how Amarbir works and its ugly and its not trustworthy at all.
Anubis said:
Trusted, well yeah he is trustworthy but that is only valid if you can trust what he says to begin with which is false in all the cases
dOm1naTOr said:for everybodies info>
Amarbir is a great dealer, and as said above, you will have to learn a new level of patience. And if you are patient enough, there is no better dealer. He even ships before payment, or could ship a better and expensive product than we asked for after informing us beforehand even if thats not what we want sometimes. But that says> he not upto double crossing anybody. Maybe there is spome other source of great mental stress for him, seriously affecting his business.
there were times i had waited for weeks for a confirmation, and months for shipments
btw, i learned it the hard way. Just remember the above, and everything ll be fine.
[i had even waite3d 2 months for some logisys fan orders> and finally got the answer that it was out of stock. And when i asked why he made the order "paymend pending", he said it was in stock at that time. i make payment after two days and it was sold off. He was delaying and was non resposive coz, he was anticipating another shipments of fresh stock of same.......(and i waited 2 months). Finally changed order. I had made similar thread here before on this. But i learned it the hard way, that u should go with a different strategy with lynx. You can improve patience and mental control, and its a nice test for the same. Thats what i think
cheers
no offense to anybody, and @ Amarbir sir : i respect you. But still if you could be more of a ...... oops leave it. have seen this before
Lets cut the crap, this is not the first time Amarbir has done this and certainly not the last. It is one of the reason why I only ever had 1 deal with Amarbir and that didnt turn out fruitful and I am in mood of discussing it. Just think of it as a sour fruit.
Anyways to all the trustworthyness, l33tness and greatness, Amarbir is just another dealer who is like far far away and takes his own sweet time to do things. Amarbir, why dont you sometime try to send the product to us first and take the money later. Feel how it feels to be us. Just try it once, I bet you wont even be able to sleep at nights.
Lets end this here, we know how Amarbir works and its ugly and its not trustworthy at all.
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
I just don't see how the TE staff is allowing the person to divert all the population and so huge of a traffic to his site and that too only for what.. 2-3000 per month??? I would pay like 5 times this money for allowing me to be able to send messages to people (over TE) to join or visit a particular site. If Amarbir is allowed to ,in a way, advertise his site and forums, then I'm confused on why even the word e-r-o-d-0-v was banned from the site.
I request the moderators to look into this as this is high-time that a concrete action is to be taken. We can not afford to have so many issues with a dealer (which, by having the "Registered dealer" status represents the TE). Please take some action over this person. I have tried dealing this person once but the rudeness he showed was simply unacceptable and I ditched the idea of ordering from him.
And to those who think patience means waiting for 2 months or 25 days for an order, GO GET A LIFE!
I just don't see how the TE staff is allowing the person to divert all the population and so huge of a traffic to his site and that too only for what.. 2-3000 per month??? I would pay like 5 times this money for allowing me to be able to send messages to people (over TE) to join or visit a particular site. If Amarbir is allowed to ,in a way, advertise his site and forums, then I'm confused on why even the word e-r-o-d-0-v was banned from the site.
I request the moderators to look into this as this is high-time that a concrete action is to be taken. We can not afford to have so many issues with a dealer (which, by having the "Registered dealer" status represents the TE). Please take some action over this person. I have tried dealing this person once but the rudeness he showed was simply unacceptable and I ditched the idea of ordering from him.
And to those who think patience means waiting for 2 months or 25 days for an order, GO GET A LIFE!
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
My only and long past order with him.
Before making the payment, he will call any number of times and talk in a very polite way.
Once the payment is done,............. everybody knows. And in my case too, after payment (for a single latter 250GB which had become very common by then) he told that order has been placed and I will have to wait. In comparison, I have had pleasant deals with dealers both here and there too. A tail piece:- when I requested to return the trader rating, he was angry and said "why do you need it as long as you are not a seller"?
My only and long past order with him.
Before making the payment, he will call any number of times and talk in a very polite way.
Once the payment is done,............. everybody knows. And in my case too, after payment (for a single latter 250GB which had become very common by then) he told that order has been placed and I will have to wait. In comparison, I have had pleasant deals with dealers both here and there too. A tail piece:- when I requested to return the trader rating, he was angry and said "why do you need it as long as you are not a seller"?
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Agree with Sorcerer, if people are not satisfied dealing with him, then why do people give him positive rating. We have the power in hand, and if we are not satisfied then we can do leave negative feedback. Even after all this if people leave positive feedback, then its
Agree with Sorcerer, if people are not satisfied dealing with him, then why do people give him positive rating. We have the power in hand, and if we are not satisfied then we can do leave negative feedback. Even after all this if people leave positive feedback, then its
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
I guess its time for the Mods to invoke his dealer status .I just feel people like him are taking advantage of TE and in turn scr**ing up TE's name .
I guess its time for the Mods to invoke his dealer status .I just feel people like him are taking advantage of TE and in turn scr**ing up TE's name
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Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
btw, as he is a reputed TE member, we are kinda assured he doesn't go off the limit too much at times, coz we can always start a case against any dealers and they gotta fix it before its affects his reps. W/O this assurance, how anyones gonna rely one a dealer, say the above dealer.
btw, as he is a reputed TE member, we are kinda assured he doesn't go off the limit too much at times, coz we can always start a case against any dealers and they gotta fix it before its affects his reps. W/O this assurance, how anyones gonna rely one a dealer, say the above dealer.
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Don't you get there are enough cases against him where he has failed to delivery items as promised ,no to mention again about the customer service and his stupid rules like join my forum create thread and all ??
dOm1naTOr said:btw, as he is a reputed TE member, we are kinda assured he doesn't go off the limit too much at times, coz we can always start a case against any dealers and they gotta fix it before its affects his reps. W/O this assurance, how anyones gonna rely one a dealer, say the above dealer.
Don't you get there are enough cases against him where he has failed to delivery items as promised ,no to mention again about the customer service and his stupid rules like join my forum create thread and all ??
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
If he is asking you to register on his forum for support then you can clearly say no and report back to us. If you are buying something which has been advertised on TE, currently audio products, then you are supposed to get reply to PM and threads here on TE.
If he is asking you to register on his forum for support then you can clearly say no and report back to us. If you are buying something which has been advertised on TE, currently audio products, then you are supposed to get reply to PM and threads here on TE.
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Guys....want to mention something. This is about stuff I got from Amarbir external to TE.
I remember a forum member mentioning here, that Amarbir at times give hand written invoices which have the equipment: name/quantity/price/model. BUT not part number/ serial number. This thread got me thinking. So I pulled out my two invoices, from Lynx-India. Voila..!. The first one for like 50K has no serial/part numbers. The second one for some ~15K has a part number. What the heck...! YES, this is my mistake, I should have verified it upon receiving the equipment. Could you guys, pull out your receipts and check. By the way, not having part numbers and trying to re-sell the equipment will be really difficult..right..?
Will contact Mr. Dhillon tomorrow and get this sorted out. Hope he gives a duplicate bill, with parts numbers.
Guys....want to mention something. This is about stuff I got from Amarbir external to TE.
I remember a forum member mentioning here, that Amarbir at times give hand written invoices which have the equipment: name/quantity/price/model. BUT not part number/ serial number. This thread got me thinking. So I pulled out my two invoices, from Lynx-India. Voila..!. The first one for like 50K has no serial/part numbers. The second one for some ~15K has a part number. What the heck...! YES, this is my mistake, I should have verified it upon receiving the equipment. Could you guys, pull out your receipts and check. By the way, not having part numbers and trying to re-sell the equipment will be really difficult..right..?
Will contact Mr. Dhillon tomorrow and get this sorted out. Hope he gives a duplicate bill, with parts numbers.
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
Selling it is fine but getting it replaced can be a pain.
asingh said:
Selling it is fine but getting it replaced can be a pain.
Re: agonizing and nerve racking experience with lynx-india
I guess this is what has been happening from many days.The mods have been overlooking him from quite few days.All he does is comes and replies here saying I was busy ,i had been there i had been here and the thread is closed .I guess he is using TE like a newspaper just advertise here and ask members to register in his forum to avoid ratings
Its high time you guys have a word with him and correct his way of dealing or invoke his dealer status.
Renegade said:
I guess this is what has been happening from many days.The mods have been overlooking him from quite few days.All he does is comes and replies here saying I was busy ,i had been there i had been here and the thread is closed .I guess he is using TE like a newspaper just advertise here and ask members to register in his forum to avoid ratings
Its high time you guys have a word with him and correct his way of dealing or invoke his dealer status.
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