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The intel 2.8GHz dual core is a joke. The amount of performance loss in games is simply not acceptable. If you think that intel will be better at games once games go multithreaded, u must be in dreamland. That is not going to happen. By the time games actually do go multithreaded, amd sure will have cheaper dual cores. Vanderpool wont be present in the current pentium-d chips. It'll come at a later stage and going by intel's ways I guess it'll require another mobo replacement :P. About DDR2 currently available, the best you can get is DDR667 at 4-4-4-12... that too at insane prices. Now tell me which is better... 300$/GB for that RAM or 200$ for TCCD that'll do 600MHz at 2.5-4-3-7 latencies :P. BTW I've never sold a comp of mine to a 'kabadiwalla' or whatever :P. I'd rather keep it as a firewall.
 
Its same. the dealers too wont offer much more than that even for intel. And AMD 64 bit will be sold easily here in forums where members are knowledgable ;)

And yeah if games do start to take advantage of multiprocessing then AMD dual core will pull out even more lead.
AMD has priced their dual core at premium at the moment bcoz they are targetting them exclusively for performance market and they feel that their single core CPUs are enough to compete against even dual core Intel 8xx series which is turning out to be true from the early reviews of dual core P4s.
AMD will slash the prices for dualcore when and if nacessary. Till then thay will enjoy extra income ;)
 
Chaos said:
The intel 2.8GHz dual core is a joke. The amount of performance loss in games is simply not acceptable. If you think that intel will be better at games once games go multithreaded, u must be in dreamland. That is not going to happen. By the time games actually do go multithreaded, amd sure will have cheaper dual cores. Vanderpool wont be present in the current pentium-d chips. It'll come at a later stage and going by intel's ways I guess it'll require another mobo replacement . About DDR2 currently available, the best you can get is DDR667 at 4-4-4-12... that too at insane prices. Now tell me which is better... 300$/GB for that RAM or 200$ for TCCD that'll do 600MHz at 2.5-4-3-7 latencies . BTW I've never sold a comp of mine to a 'kabadiwalla' or whatever . I'd rather keep it as a firewall
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How do you know the performance loss in the games would unacceptable, 'cause there are no *new* games optimized for Dual core available yet.
You can get corsair xms2 ddr2 800 (5-5-5-12) for around $250 and if i'm not mistaken you can run these Rams at lower latencies if u underclock them.So for 50 more bux, u'r gettin a more future proof Ram with similar performance.
And also normal people don't need that kinda protection to have a seprate comp. for firewalls, and neither do they have that kinda space in thier houses :P and are desprately lookin for raisin funds when makin an upgrade.
 
Sheriff said:
How do you know the performance loss in the games would unacceptable, 'cause there are no *new* games optimized for Dual core available yet.
You can get corsair xms2 ddr2 800 (5-5-5-12) for around $250 and if i'm not mistaken you can run these Rams at lower latencies if u underclock them.So for 50 more bux, u'r gettin a more future proof Ram with similar performance.
And also normal people don't need that kinda protection to have a seprate comp. for firewalls, and neither do they have that kinda space in thier houses :P and are desprately lookin for raisin funds when makin an upgrade.
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Hehe you contradicted yourself. I was talking about single threaded games. The performance loss while moving to an intel dual core would be unacceptable in those. Plus single threaded games will still exist for a long time to come. Also look at those latencies... 5-5-5-12 so they won't do better than 4-4-4 at 667Mhz :P. My statement still holds :tongue:
 
Chaos said:
Hehe you contradicted yourself. I was talking about single threaded games. The performance loss while moving to an intel dual core would be unacceptable in those. Plus single threaded games will still exist for a long time to come. Also look at those latencies... 5-5-5-12 so they won't do better than 4-4-4 at 667Mhz . My statement still holds
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I've already have admitted that AMD is better in single core, but still if you compare the FPS difference b/w the 2 similar procc., it'll be hardly ten.
We can put it this way, get AMD dual core for $520 and run u'r games on integrated graphics or get intel dual core+x800xl for $515 :P

As far as Ram goes you're talkin case of extreme overclocking like pushin u'r DDR to 600, there could be stability issues and even if there is not, u'r riskin u'r RAM esp. being an Indian, and if your ram dies, it'll be a costly affair to send it back to US.Also you can get Patriot Extreme Performance DDR2 700 for $208, which claims to do 3-2-2-4 @533 .
 
BTW if you wanna run only games why get Dual cores ? Its not that games are gonna support them in a mth or so. You will be lucky if they support even after a year by then AMD dual cores might have got cheaper...

Infact even after MP's only q3a supported them till date...
 
dont forget about DDRIII RAM lol . it might be introduced to the general public within a year . faster and better . lower power consumption
 
Sheriff said:
We can put it this way, get AMD dual core for $520 and run u'r games on integrated graphics or get intel dual core+x800xl for $515
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Well, the point everyone is trying to make is - a Single core AMD is still better than a dual-core Intel in games. AMD themselves are keeping the Athlon FX single core since it is targetted at games. So why bother getting an AMD Dual core for 520$ for gaming?
A single core AMD will still be cheaper than a dual-core Intel and will do much better.

If and when games are designed for dual-cores, its gonna be quite a long while from now, maybe a year or more and by then quite obviously AMD's dual-cores would be much cheaper.
 
Sheriff dude, the gap in performance in gaming is not small.
Look at the reviews. Its preety big between A64 and P4 as such.
Dual core P4 840 gets outperformed by even Intel's own Intel 640 3.2Ghz model.
And 640 easily gets outperformed by below $170 A64 3200+.
And reality check. Forget the Intel so called pricing. Check out the real world street prices of even single core CPUs.
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$616 - Pentium 4 660 3.6GHz 2MB LGA775
$413 - Pentium 4 650 3.4GHz 2MB LGA775
$281 - Pentium 4 640 3.2GHz 2MB LGA775
$210 - Pentium 4 630 3.0GHz 2MB LGA775
$641 - Pentium 4 570 3.8GHz LGA775
$325 - Pentium 4 560 3.6GHz LGA775
$260 - Pentium 4 550 3.4GHz LGA775
$192 - Pentium 4 540 3.2GHz LGA775
$167 - Pentium 4 530 3.0GHz LGA775
$145 - Pentium 4 520 2.8GHz LGA775
$144 - Pentium 4 515 2.93GHz LGA775
$128 - Pentium 4 505 2.66GHz LGA775
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$481 - Athlon 64 4000
$359 - Athlon 64 3800
$379 - Athlon 64 3800 512K 90nm Rev E
$309 - Athlon 64 3700
$249 - Athlon 64 3500
$249 - Athlon 64 3500 939pin
$249 - Athlon 64 3500 90nm 939pin
$272 - Athlon 64 3500 512K 90nm Rev E
$176 - Athlon 64 3400
$149 - Athlon 64 3200
$169 - Athlon 64 3200 939pin
$169 - Athlon 64 3200 90nm 939pin
$199 - Athlon 64 3200 512K 90nm Rev E
$119 - Athlon 64 3000
$134 - Athlon 64 3000 939pin
$134 - Athlon 64 3000 90nm 939pin
$149 - Athlon 64 3000 512K 90nm Rev E
 
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