CPU/Mobo AMD or INTEL?? plz suggest??

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iGo said:
I had 3 HDDs dying on me, I was able to recover data only from one of it. I've never used AMD in my life, this was all on Intel platform. But you won't hear me crying foul on Intel... how can you relate HDD dying on AMD/Intel or for that matter processor?

There could be various reasons, you got bad HDD or your PSU was crappy or your HDD cables were faulty or anything.... but how the heck processor kills your HDD?

Overall by your comments I think, whoever you bought it from must have provided you with old stock. Your mobo ran hot, you blame CPU. Your HDD died, you blame CPU. what next? Your monitor started giving problem, you blame CPU?
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iGo is right. Most probably is your PSU. Same happned to me when my PSU fried the power-pins of my mobo and now I have to short-circuit using reset pins :(
 
I have nothing against AMD, infact, will prefer to take a pro side.

However, there is not denial to the fact that AMD have far more problems than Intel systems.

When you buy AMD CPU, you have to have an AMD compatible m/b, right ? If there is a problem in AMD based mobo, it get automatically attributed to AMD. Then you need to have a highly rated PSU. Then... cooling... oh, thats always to be well taken care on AMD... and much more... At last you always runs out of luck with AMD systems... usually...

In comparison, Intel works like a mule without complaint, in majority of situations... It does not depend on luck, for it to work.

Now, why I recommended /used AMD, even after knowing about it well ? Hmm... I have nothing against AMD and it gives a cost effective solution, if everything goes right... I must feel lucky.

But, now when someone asks for a recommendation, everything must be told. I learned it the hard way, so I aired it.
 
When you buy AMD CPU, you have to have an AMD compatible m/b, right ? If there is a problem in AMD based mobo, it get automatically attributed to AMD. Then you need to have a highly rated PSU. Then... cooling... oh, thats always to be well taken care on AMD... and much more... At last you always runs out of luck with AMD systems... usually...
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Now were you thinking on plugging in an AMD CPU in Intel mobo :rofl: For every different CPU you need a company certified Mb .. Its not like you can plug VIA processor in AMD or Intel Mb :P and the matter of fact AMD has lesser chipset then Intel and most of the processors are backward compatible.. like AM3 will run in AM2+ ... not like you have invested in P45 and brought a Core i7 and now you have to get an X58 to get that Intel i7 working :P

PSU.. It depends on the whole system power usage not only on processor..you can run AMD based rig on any PSU :P

Seriously you look like an informed Indian dealer .. People still have misconception that AMD runs hotter than Intel :P Its not , AMD Athlon runs even cooler than Intel P4 :P
 
Prole73 said:
I have nothing against AMD, infact, will prefer to take a pro side.

However, there is not denial to the fact that AMD have far more problems than Intel systems.

When you buy AMD CPU, you have to have an AMD compatible m/b, right ? If there is a problem in AMD based mobo, it get automatically attributed to AMD. Then you need to have a highly rated PSU. Then... cooling... oh, thats always to be well taken care on AMD... and much more... At last you always runs out of luck with AMD systems... usually...

In comparison, Intel works like a mule without complaint, in majority of situations... It does not depend on luck, for it to work.

Now, why I recommended /used AMD, even after knowing about it well ? Hmm... I have nothing against AMD and it gives a cost effective solution, if everything goes right... I must feel lucky.

But, now when someone asks for a recommendation, everything must be told. I learned it the hard way, so I aired it.
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You must be kiddin now..dude:ohyeah:
 
Dark Star said:
Now were you thinking on plugging in an AMD CPU in Intel mobo :rofl: For every different CPU you need a company certified Mb .. Its not like you can plug VIA processor in AMD or Intel Mb :P and the matter of fact AMD has lesser chipset then Intel and most of the processors are backward compatible.. like AM3 will run in AM2+ ... not like you have invested in P45 and brought a Core i7 and now you have to get an X58 to get that Intel i7 working :P

PSU.. It depends on the whole system power usage not only on processor..you can run AMD based rig on any PSU :P

Seriously you look like an informed Indian dealer .. People still have misconception that AMD runs hotter than Intel :P Its not , AMD Athlon runs even cooler than Intel P4 :P
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DarkStar,

"Now were you thinking on plugging in an AMD CPU in Intel mobo :rofl: For every different CPU you need a company certified Mb .. Its not like you can plug VIA processor in AMD or Intel Mb :P and the matter of fact AMD has lesser chipset then Intel and most of the processors are backward compatible.. "

Great tongue in cheek dialogs.. , you are arguing like a kid...

Man, I do consulting for MNCs in IT field for years... So, pls...

Oh, I might have wound up... Sorry...

Oops... Incidentally I found this post on TE:

http://www.techenclave.com/general-talk/why-lot-of-amd-compare-intel-129555.html

Best of luck...
 
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Prole73 said:
When you buy AMD CPU, you have to have an AMD compatible m/b, right ?
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If there is a problem in AMD based mobo, it get automatically attributed to AMD.
Happens with intel. Infact I fell usually there are South bridge geting hot kind of problems cos of IGP AMD tries to incorporate in there boards. 780G shows this (Correct me if I am wrong).

Then you need to have a highly rated PSU.
That should be slghtly high not highly and BTW What generations are u comparing here 45nms of AMD are very comparable to 45nms of intel. Similar case with 65nms.

Then... cooling... oh, thats always to be well taken care on AMD.
At stock speeds stock coolers are gud enough. U dont need extra ventilation or big coolers.

... and much more... At last you always runs out of luck with AMD systems...usually...
It seems u have had some bad experience with AMD in past. But that can happen with any Mobo based on any Chipset. Its like saying if ur maruti car (any model, may be 800) is not running gud u'll never buy any maruti car. By having a bad image for a brand we tend to overlook the gud aspects available with the brand. Smthing like the new Phenom II series

In comparison, Intel works like a mule without complaint, in majority of situations... It does not depend on luck, for it to work.
hmmmmmmmm
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Prole73 said:
Consider AMD as an adventure...

I recently recommended Gigabyte 780G m/b. to my friend, who bought it with 5200+ cpu. The combo ran so hot that he was forced to use the PC with cabinet open. No one have time to run behind gigabyte for replacements.

After few days, his brand new Seagate 500GB HDD died a slow death with 10GB personal data lost.

Now, I am not even going near his house ;)

Never had similar issues with Intel.
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sir ,

Beg Your Pardon ,Board Was Hot Or The CPU
 
w1nD said:
@ Prole73 : can you explain me how hdd's failure is related to proccy ??
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Dont you get it, AMD is evil.

I have had an analogous experience with cars ... after switching from a Maruti(Alto) to a Chevy spark I have had 4 flat tyres in 2 months. I swear I'll never think of a Chevy again :P.
 
This thread must be nominated ..hilarious thread of the ... or something..
:bleh: :bleh:
anyways the intel fanboy must understand that the issues due to the motherboard is not to be attributed to the poor processor..
How will the poor processor know abt the shitty mb..
given that intel is the better of the two in performance and technology..
u just cant beat the value of amd and the obviously sensible move to make its chipsets backward compatible..
(though not fully)..
 
zhopudey said:
@prole73, was that hdd a 7200.11? Those have lots of problems of their own :)
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nope, it was AMD for sure...he has been a consultant for MNCs in IT field for years..he has made sure it was AMD...dont u get it??!! :tongue:
 
dude this thread had gone from bad to worse..
the previous post only shows the frustration we have meted out to the thread starter...
i guess fanaticism is everywhere....
 
I stopped posting since I found teenage headless chicken fanboys are here mainly...

Fact remains fact and no one can refute it...

Now, to those who are bashing others sitting there in their boroughs, think why AMD is never taking ahead of intel... Recently, there were severe doubts that their shop will close out.

They played it right once or twice with 64bit tech and 939 opterons. At that time, industry supported them by purchasing their tech. Now, very few people support them.

Have anyone of these enthusiastic crowd entered in to data centers of banks and MNCs ? Go and see for yourselves. I have to, almost everyday, for my livelyhood. There you will see what I am taking about. No one touches AMD cpu based systems, in normal cases. There you will find several dozens of heavy intel systems from HP /Dell /IBM. Rarely you will find AMD.

They do things after going through facts, for they spend millions for their infrastructure...

Fanboyism is only for retards... If AMD solutions are that great, you will find corporates using them in great percentage... But they are not...
 
Prole73 said:
I stopped posting since I found teenage headless chicken fanboys are here mainly...

Fact remains fact and no one can refute it...

Now, to those who are bashing others sitting there in their boroughs, think why AMD is never taking ahead of intel... Recently, there were severe doubts that their shop will close out.

They played it right once or twice with 64bit tech and 939 opterons. At that time, industry supported them by purchasing their tech. Now, very few people support them.

Have anyone of these enthusiastic crowd entered in to data centers of banks and MNCs ? Go and see for yourselves. I have to, almost everyday, for my livelyhood. There you will see what I am taking about. No one touches AMD cpu based systems, in normal cases. There you will find several dozens of heavy intel systems from HP /Dell /IBM. Rarely you will find AMD.

They do things after going through facts, for they spend millions for their infrastructure...

Fanboyism is only for retards... If AMD solutions are that great, you will find corporates using them in great percentage... But they are not...
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you r so blinded by ur own fanboism that you dont even realise that ppl r bashing u for stating that AMD(cpu) caused the hdd crash...n similar bullcrap.

no1 is praising amd here..neither is any1 preaching amd is bettr than intel...its u wid ur unsupported theories n so called fact which do not even relate to what u posted in that mobo post.

plz explain us how n what that thesis was based on n then talk abt fanboism here.
 
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