Any good high lumen torch ?

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Dude please please suggest me one such torch. Thrower spreader whatever works best for this purpose alone

The first one I posted is the minimum required.

Nitecore MT1A Pro

It's multifunctional.

Others are more powerful and specialised for tactical but cost more

Interesting thing with edc33 is it can do both spot and flood. The only downside is the battery is built in and not replaceable

Nitecore EDC33 - Compact EDC Flashlight, Lumin Shield Instant Defense, Rapid Lock, USB-C Rechargeable (4000 Lumens, 450 mts)

Nitecore EDC33 - Compact EDC Flashlight boasting 4000 Lumens Instant Self Defense Mode (Lumin Sheild), USB-C Rechargeable Tactical EDC Flashlight with Excellent flood and throw, 450mts exceptional throw, 4000mah built-in battery) - The EDC33 is purpose designed and built for EDC (Every Day Carry),

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At 4,000 lumens and 400m throw you can use it to immobilise intruders let alone dogs

 

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Thanks. It's out of my budget at 8k. Will look at the cheaper one.

 

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Thanks. It's out of my budget at 8k. Will look at the cheaper one.

Above video is with the Fenix TK16V2

An Indian youtuber left a comment under this video saying that it doesn't work with dogs in his area and that's with the below torch (TK20RV2) that puts out 56k candelas. Or a good 20k more than the above video

Fenix TK20R V2 Torch

Fenix TK20R V2 Torch India, LED rechargeable torchlight with output of 3000 lumens & free laser engraving

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These torches are law enforcement grade. So I don't know how strays can be immune to it. One thing to be sure is torches only work with strays at nighttime. They aren't much use in daytime.

He said he'd put out a video with dogs. Here's his channel

Desi Indian Prepper : भारतीय प्रेपर

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Since he plays with generics as well as branded he's the right person to ask for budget torches that aren't totally crap

 

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Thanks left him a message on reddit

 

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Missed a couple of lights that are ideal for this dog deterrence application or any self defense for that matter

There are just two settings. 50 lumens and turbo. Quick and easy one hand operation. Small enough to be pocketed.

You walk along with 50 if any dogs show up one click and its on turbo.

Or from off they start on turbo. Tactical settings.

Nitecore MT1C Pro - Next Generation Compact EDC Flashlight, NEW UHi-LED, USB-C Rechargeable Battery(NL1816R) or 1x CR123 or 1x RCR123 (1000 Lumens, 360mts)

Nitecore MT1C Pro - Next Generation Compact EDC Flashlight, NEW UHi-LED, USB-C Rechargeable Battery (NL1816R) or 1x CR123 or 1x RCR123 (1000 Lumens, 360mts)Please note that Flashlights with smaller head and higher lumens generate heat in High mode and this is normal, there is temperature regulation

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^reaches 360m at 1000 lumens with 32.5k cd intensity

Nitecore MT2C Pro - Next Generation Compact EDC Flashlight powered by 18650, USB-C Rechargeable, NEW UHi-LED (1800 Lumens, 520mts)

Nitecore MT2C Pro - Next Generation Compact EDC Flashlight, NEW UHi-LED, Powered by 18650, USB-C Rechargeable Battery(NL1836R) included or Can also use 2x CR123A or 2x RCR123A (1800 Lumens, 520mts) The Simple single 18650 format is back with a Bang! Please note that Flashlights with smaller

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^reaches 520m at 1,800 lumens with 67k cd intensity. Better one due to bigger battery

If you bought this in the US after tax and shipping it's just Rs.500 less.


Check the reviews for how long it holds on turbo

Nitecore MT2C Pro review | 18650 tacital/EDC flashlight, 1800 lm | 1Lumen

If you want a no frills, bare-bones light whose only special feature is a low mode, this light is for you. I recommend the Nitecore MT2C Pro with 4.5 stars.

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Nitecore MT2C Pro Flashlight Review - ZeroAir Reviews

The Nitecore MT2C Pro flashlight features high output and throw and just two modes! High is first, making this a great handheld tactical weapon light. Read on!

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Both are fairly new having come out less than a year back

 

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Hey @blr_p , if you don't mind, could you share which flashlights you own, and what you use them for?

 

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Two old ones from a decade ago.

1) Fenix LD15

2) Fenix LD01

Keychain lights you have with you always. Random power cuts means streetlights out and if there are open sewers or roadwork you will know where to and not place your feet.

These days people use mobiles for this but the light is quite dim, very floody and more useful indoors than outdoors

On a dimly lit road I dangle the keychain light switched on while walking so oncoming traffic can easily see me. Also great for telling people how to find you at night in a crowded place.

2) got recently replaced with

Nitecore TINI2 500 Lumens, USB-C Rechargeable Keychain Flashlight with OLED Display

Nitecore TINI2 Dual Core 500 Lumens, USB-C Rechargeable Keychain Flashlight - Must have Everyday Carry Keychain light - 500 Lumens, built-in 280mAh rechargeable battery, USB-C port for Recharging - Extremely compact and light weight (18.8gms) - Premium 2x OSRAM P8 LEDs - 2 Lockout modes (Half Lockou

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Headlamps are useful when no power indoors or out as hands free. Also great when doing any close up work or inspections. And I mean indoors during daytime with all lights on. You won't miss a thing.

You will wonder how you managed without it.

Fenix HL30 LED Headlamp

Buy Fenix HL30 LED Headlamp Online in India. Get the best deals on cycle lights from India's Largest Cycling Community & Online Cycle Shop. Free & fast shipping. Value to High-End Brands. Order Now!

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Uses rechargeable AA batteries but the runtime are fairly short unless using with low lumens

Fenix HM60R Headlamp

Fenix HM60R Rechargeable LED Headlamp in India, 1200 Lumens C-Type USB rechargeable Head Torch, Perfect headlamp for EDC work and outdoors, hike, trail run etc., Spot light and flood light LEDS, White, neutral white and red light, super bright headlamp powered by 18650 battery & long run time...

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^18650s means longer runtimes at higher lumens. Has both flood with neutral light which is great for close up work or spot for further but I've used spot at close distance and it worked as well

Thrunite T1

^Great UI with eco or turbo only a click away and ramping light so you can have the light at whatever level you want

Thrunite T1S
^same UI but more throw

These thrunite use 18350 lithiums giving a good runtime for their size.

Notice the belt clips. They are two way so can be attached to a cap and becomes a headlamp. Not as good as a real headlamp but it's an extra use case.

Next torch will be a EDC/tactical with enough candelas to deter dogs. Number of options but finding the right mix of function vs ease of carry is tricky. To get those high lumens without heating quickly means a bigger head bezel but a bigger head is less pocketable than a smaller head.

A couple of accessories create more options

Fenix ALR-01 Torchlight Ring

Fenix ALR-01 torchlight ring

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^tactical grip

Fenix AB02 Belt Clip for LED Torch

Fenix Belt Clip for LED Flashlights, Belt Clip for Torches, Clip for torches, Holster for LED flashlights, LED flashlights india, Buy Pouch for Flashlgihts

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^allows to angle the light while it's on your belt. More useful than a standard holster.

You can see why I prefer branded. All these flashlights deliver and are reliable. The generic stuff is really a waste of money when you can have the real thing. But you have to nail your use case to benefit and that might take more than one attempt.

All Chinese brands. But really good quality. World beating for what they are. Cheaper options and decent exist abroad but not here. And when I check Amazon I notice they are less reliable than brands like Fenix.

 

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Thank you. I asked because I thought you may be living outside India, but you also posted about using flashlights as a means of protecting from dogs.

I really like the idea of using flashlights for protecting from dogs, something kids can also use. Before I saw your post, I was thinking of carrying a expandable baton of some sort, flashlights seems a better approach.

I need to buy at least 4 of these high lumen ones (to gift to family members as well as for my own use), hence I was hesitant to buy Nitecore or Fenix ones (because of higher price). Considering your points, I will buy from one of these brands some time in the near future, since flashlight is something that should work reliably when we need it.

Regarding Philips flashlights: I wasn't aware earlier when I posted about the Philips flashlights, but it looks like Philips is no longer a name one can blindly trust. I was looking for emergency lamps and came across 2 Philips models in Amazon here. Amazon Basics has the exact same models here. So there is a good chance Philips is just rebranding stuff at this point, or may be its not even the Philips company, but someone else using their name (like Blaupunkt, as I learned from here, quoted below).

Blaupunkt is a Chinese brand. Company filed for bankruptcy in 2016 and now the Brand is used by more than 40 companies including Chinese ones.

 

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I really like the idea of using flashlights for protecting from dogs, something kids can also use. Before I saw your post, I was thinking of carrying a expandable baton of some sort, flashlights seems a better approach.

It's always good to have a fallback option and a stick is an excellent choice. Weerapat says in his comments there have been times he has stomped on the ground, waved his hands in the air to appear larger and even shouted back. The difficult part here is not to show fear.

How do you teach that?

The trouble here is the dogs are defending their territory and we are the intruders.



^day time option?

I need to buy at least 4 of these high lumen ones (to gift to family members as well as for my own use), hence I was hesitant to buy Nitecore or Fenix ones (because of higher price). Considering your points, I will buy from one of these brands some time in the near future, since flashlight is something that should work reliably when we need it.

Reliability also factors in when choosing branded flashlights. Some designs are longer lasting or more reliable than others.

You would be better off experimenting on your own before gifting anything.

Unless the torch is of a sufficient lumens with candela it won't be blinding enough.

Where will you get this information from generics?

The only way is to test on yourself.

^he gets a friend to test on himself. Can the flashlight stop him from a car's distance which is ideal or not? Tries various models with varying success.

30k candela isn't enough unless closer than a cars length. The end result is a flashlight that can put out about 40k candela. But also not too high as then the hotspot is smaller

Can't get the one he recommends in India but there's a few suitable models from Fenix or Nitecore that will be good enough.

If you had a proper flashlight that can put out that amount then you have a reference with which to compare cheaper flashlights.

Regarding Philips flashlights: I wasn't aware earlier when I posted about the Philips flashlights, but it looks like Philips is no longer a name one can blindly trust. I was looking for emergency lamps and came across 2 Philips models in Amazon here. Amazon Basics has the exact same models here. So there is a good chance Philips is just rebranding stuff at this point, or may be its not even the Philips company, but someone else using their name (like Blaupunkt, as I learned from here, quoted below).

The Phillips lights are quite bulky for what they put out.
- Are they practical to carry all the time.
- Are they easy to quickly switch on when needed.
- How long can they maintain their top brightness level. This matters because if they cannot hold that for at least a few seconds when used repetitively then the torch is useless. Branded or not.

Those are the parameters you will have to consider.