Are we under cyber attack with failing grids

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pratikb

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I suspect we are under cyberattack.
Why their is no redundancy in system and why it is collapsing like this ??

What is our commands and control if war breaks out in this kind of country wide shutdown?

how we will sustain our economic growth with such great level of preparedness.

I suspect we are under penetration testing and it's showing our preparedness.
Not good sign for so called Asian super power.
 
are our grids even online in the first place? cyber attacks can happen only if they are connected online. possibly the grid infrastructure is too old and not maintained properly, hence we're having these hours long grid and power failures everywhere.
 
no bosses not too much movies,
maharashtra electricity board is very much online and i believe its same for other states as well.
I had fortune to visit couple of hydro power plants and they are very much connected.

even rural most electricity sub station is online for that matter.

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for matter of billing and control,you can check any account in matter of minute.
its very much online with all databases .

each and every sub station is inline with all stuff connected is what i was told by chief engineer .
and this was 3 yrs ago.
 
I doubt that its a cyber attack but its possible from your info. But I think that its due to over draw and the fact that a useless guy is sitting as the power min.
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Metalspree said:
I really doubt if our electricity board is even online for a cyber attack.
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I am not sure about others but Northern and the north eastern grids are very much online cotnrolled by PowerGrid Corp India.

I also find something fishy with these grids failing. There is surely something i feel is going on.
 
if they can publish feeder hourly data,
that does not come from average clerk sitting on 9to5 job.
system is very much online.
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this is nothing but penetration testing of our networks,just to see our response and preparedness for these kind of eventuality.

also just imagine same kind of ordeal on telecommunication lines.
loads of Chinese equipment in our networks.
just imagine what can happen.

their is no wonder many western countries have banned Chinese networking gear in their telecom industry.

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also if you may know,we have built separate fiber optic network for military purposes to get military vacate our so beloved 3G spectrum.

its contracts are with bsnl and I pray that we have not a single Chinese component on that network.

I had meeting with senior bsnl officers sometime ago,they agreed to my fear about Chinese networking gear in our bsnl state owned network,
they said its huge risk and they cant do much as all those tenders are cleared at ministry level and we know our government.
they are forced to use this chinese networking equipment against ericsson alcatel and all other better equipments.

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in America,their is blanket ban on Chinese networking equipment.
their also chinese companies are trying best lobbying to lift that ban but luckily not succeeding.
in Britain also,huawei offered to build underground HSPA network for free as part of CSR for olympics games.
britain refused it.

why all this?
whats reason behind this?
 
this looks planned. did visit power grid corp. once. they are almost online. the place I visited used GE system for monitoring. recently, infamous and planned attacks were heard to be implemented against Siemens systems.

by the way, if India is using SCADA, it is pretty much reported to be hackable.
 
In India, there might be a lot of reasons for such a situation, mostly would be due to negligence or incompetency, but IMO cyber attack might be a bit impractical.
 
Prole73 said:
this looks planned. did visit power grid corp. once. they are almost online. the place I visited used GE system for monitoring. recently, infamous and planned attacks were heard to be implemented against Siemens systems.

by the way, if India is using SCADA, it is pretty much reported to be hackable.
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india is indeed using SCADA still.
we had instances of that being targeted and still we dont believe it.
we had attacks during same time frame as iran attacks.

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and amongst us,those who believe its too much of movies,
you all are mistaken .
I am sorry .

this cyber warfare is very much their and very much alive.

this is not fantasy and its well confirmed and beyond proof of concept attacks.

even during common wealth games,we had lots of attacks.

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Power Grid Corporation of India Ltd chairman R K Nayak has said that the problem is difficult to be located as it is a complex network.

what does this tell you guys?
 
pratikb said:
those are same guys who designed and implemented system so I doubt they lack expertise.
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expertise now-a-days belong to GE, Siemens, etc. basically, most of these things are outsourced through contracts. the suppliers are fined enormously which they won't mind as product cost may have already accounted such expenses.
 
Prole73 said:
by the way, if India is using SCADA, it is pretty much reported to be hackable.
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Do you even know what lead to hacking the nuclear facility in iran? its funny when you say SCADA is hackable... Read about stuxnet.
 
everything is made in china.the rack for the scada terminals for scada at the receiving station in my city are all emblazoned,rather proudly-made in china.
AND,IIRC,everything is controlled at one center for a region.so,take one down and you can shut off a state/part of it.
Infact,it was simulated once by an govt organization and they powered off the whole of Karnataka for like 10 minutes.some substations are totally controlled by scada,meaning unless the central authority gives the say-so,the ground staff dont touch the gear.cut off communications,and there is chaos,as the substation people cant do a thing without orders and the command center cant reach the linemen

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die hard 4.0?no way.whats next?:blink:
 
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