Graphic Cards ATI readies OEM special: SuperRV770 to challenge GeForce GTX 260, 280

[abbY]

Mountain House (CA) – AMD’s Radeon 4850 and 4870 have been widely praised in the media and put the ATI team back on the map. But it appears that we have just seen a small portion of what the ATI guys have in space for users. The new boards are actually running at well below the clock speed they can support and there is every reason to believe that these cards will be challenging Nvidia’s very best.

The ATI Radeon 4870 ships with two six-pin power connectors, which support a maximum thermal design power (TDP) 225 watts (75 watts +75 watts and an additional 75 watts from the motherboard), while the board will never consume more than 160 – 170 watts at stock speed, we are told. That means that there is at least 55 watts of room for overclocking and enough space to find out what these GPUs are capable of.

AMD GPG (ex-ATI) is binning the parts to a lowest denominator required for good yields and a level of performance that reaches or sometimes overtakes Nvidia’s GTX 260. But this time around, the company developed an AIB/OEM-only product codenamed "Super RV770", which will be much more powerful.

The "Super RV770" will arrive with pre-installed water-cooling and features unlocked BIOS, which enables the GPU to be pushed all the way to 950 MHz, while the memory can be pushed to 4.8 GT/s (1.2 GHz QDR). According to our sources, you may be able to push the GPU even beyond 1 GHz, if you use TEC elements, and keep the temperature of GPU low.

At 4.8 GT/s, the "Super RV770" can achieve a bandwidth of 150 GB/s, taking the crown from the GeForce GTX 280. The RV770 chip has a 256-bit (32-byte) interface, which means we can calculate the bandwidth in the following way:

ATI RV770: 32-byte x 4.8 Billion Transfers/sec = 150 GB/s

Nvidia GT200: 64-byte x 2.2 Billion Transfers/sec = 138.37 GB/s

Not surprisingly, the first "Super RV770" product is already out. Diamond Multimedia teamed up with Danger Den and Smooth Creations to launch the "ATI Radeon HD 4870 XOC Black Edition".

Diamond clocked the core of its Super RV770 at 800 MHz and the memory at 4.4 GT/s (1100 MHz QDR). There is some room for overclocking left, as Diamond its own version of an unlocked BIOS and the board can be propelled up to 950 MHz for the GPU and 1200 MHz for the memory.

Mario Gastelum, director of product development & engineering stated that the “The Diamond Radeon HD 4870 XOC Black Edition was clocked to kick some ass. We wanted the fastest card that could kick the living daylights and bust some performance records".

Diamond's version of the Super RV770 is available in systems from Smoothcreations. Expect more announcements from other AMD/ATI partners, including Asus, Sapphire and GeCube.

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This is where DAMMIT is doing better than Nvidia (the 9800GTX+ is what i am referring to), the Super RV770 does have some major enhancements.

 

[fangface]

Good move by AMD :hap2: If these special cards perform upto the expectations they will be big successes and will gain AMD a lot of respect in the enthusiast market space, well done! :clap:

 

[gamepagol]

^ probably this card gonna be in sub $400 region and might catch GTX 280 in all around performance... if so then i must say AMD think good and done a good job really :hap2: :hap2: ... but news tells us its not gonna sell down the market rather their own system builder...

Availability
Diamond Multimedia’s ATI Radeon HD 4870 XOC Black Edition will be available for purchase starting July 01, 2008 and will be available Exclusively at Premier Boutique System Builder Smoothcreations.

 

[Sudarshan_SMD]

4850 will be a big HIT .

it will go in hand to hand with 8800GT hyeah:
and if anybody want a dual GPU setup then it is not other than 4870 CROSSFIRE .

 

[Anish]

Specs look good! I'm sure this will edge a 280 but where does this fit in the big picture considering the 4870X2 and more importantly the pricing!

4850 will be a big HIT .

it will go in hand to hand with 8800GT hyeah:

Yeah right....

 

[ragsbava]

hyeah: when are ASUS MSI Sapphire...etc etc launching..there OC versios......:hap2:

 

[techster]

hyeah: when are ASUS MSI Sapphire...etc etc launching..there OC versios......:hap2:

Are you talking about the 4850? I think those are releasing around July 11 (9800 GTX+ release date) hyeah:

 

[n00b]

Its funny how ATI is outright ignoring the 9800gtx+. And nVidia has its head so up its @r$e that its losing focus. Not to create a flame war or anything, but 500-600 bucks on the "next gen" graphic cards seems a bit far fethched. Esp now when we read stuff about the "super RV770" and that to at a cheaper price. Geeee. But ill just head back into my cave and wait till the results show up.

P.S ^^ 4850's are out. 4870's are out. 4870x2 are the one's releasing in July. and th OC editions (Super RV770 <= sounds like some japanese robot's name,sheesh) no confirmed release date.

 

[muzux2]

So if we do sme math, core clock increases by 26.6%. Memory by 33.3%.. Since, GTX 280 is only 12-15% faster over 4870. From above overckng result, i believe 4870 must easily win..:clap:
Even, $450, would be sweet spot for this ATI masterpiece..:

 

[techster]

P.S ^^ 4850's are out. 4870's are out.

I was talking about the overclocked 4850s, set to compete with the 9800 GTX+

 

[muzux2]

I was talking about the overclocked 4850s, set to compete with the 9800 GTX+

yeh, 4850 OC are also coming up. expect core clock to touch 750 MHZ & memory 2300-2400 Mhz.. this would be more than sufficient to beat any OC 9800GTX+

:clap:

 

[hatter]

I was talking about the overclocked 4850s, set to compete with the 9800 GTX+

4850 already competes with 9800GTX+. In most cases these cards trade blows and when AA is applied, 4850 pulls ahead slightly. With $199 price, 4850 is a better card.

 

[SidhuScorpion]

I need special cooling too, It would be wonderful if some ATI partner launch 4850 with Zalman fan/heatsink.

 

[muzux2]

I need special cooling too, It would be wonderful if some ATI partner launch 4850 with Zalman fan/heatsink.

Yeh, it would be intresting to see, IceQ from HIS..

 

[Supra]

LOL all AIB partners will launch cards will launch HD 4850 with better cooling by arnd 2nd-3rd week of July. Though with the stock cooler if u put the fan to 50-60% its enough and good enough till OC of 700~720 Mhz on the core on stock volts

Those will be the HD 4850 + or whatever and arnd 229$ MSRP.

HD 4870 X2 is 499$ MSRP card...whereas HD 4870 OC ones are to be arnd 349$-399$ ( 399$ ones will be with water cooling, special gadgets )

But all these are MSRP and lot of HD 4850s are already available for 150~160 after rebate on newegg. So we can be sure that AMD / parters have quite good margins and even the overclocked RV 770s will hit arnd the normal 199$/299$ price very soon enough. Days are nt far for a 250$ stock HD 4870

 

[vijaysurendran]

while they at it i hope they relase a liquid nitrogen cooling system too that would push the clocks to insane limits!!

 

[muzux2]

Yeh, liquid nitrogen wd b nice..but i wonder didnt liquid nitrogen gets evaporated?
Or isnt it danger to have liquid nitrogen in our system..?

 

[abbY]

the best part of the HD 4870 is the DDR5 rams ... they OC like nothing you might have seen and the extra $100 imo is worth it.