Graphic Cards Bad perfomance from AMD HD 4850

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go for windows 7 man

u have such a high config

what r u doing with xp

windows 7 has a virtual pc whcih has xp in it

so no worries if u cant run any software on 7
 
As you had mentioned RAM was giving errors in different slots, I suggest try the RAM sticks in another comp and check for stability issues. And suggested earlier update windows.
 
sabby said:
See the results after disabling Cool n Quiet from BIOS. Observe any difference if any. In some cases, I found the processor was still running on 800MHz where as it should have increased its speed. Didn't try to know what the reason was though.
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i dint observe any change .. same stutters/..

madnav said:
i have almost similar config as OP.
as you have mentioned, catalyst installation crashes when you try to install 9.11

the issue can also be with your OS, which we might be overlooking on to.

have you updated windows?

also, if you can source a good psu for testing from any of friends in your locality then that will certainly clear any issues regarding power. (sounds like an issue with power due to so much variation in 12V rail with and without load...but again, can't be so sure.)
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i just installed 9.12 and it installed fine.... checked out the games no change .. :)
 
Ok...I would advice this:

Do the global changes first:

1. CCC update - done.

2. XP update(s) - pull all from the net. No need to change XP. I ran 4xxx series on XP with those games. no issues. If that is the OS flavor you like. Your choice. XP rocked. :)

3. Update your motherboard BIOS to latest and set it to default. Press the key to make all system defaults, and commit the changes.

Specific Settings:

1. Your GPU-Z screenshot shows the GPU engine running at full. It should ideally power down. Some setting on your CCC setting, for profiles.

2. Get your RAM to JEDEC#1 as per the SPD screenshot of CPU-Z -- with 1.8V. Your timings as of now are 6-6-6-18.
 
asingh said:
Ok...I would advice this:

Do the global changes first:
1. CCC update - done.
2. XP update(s) - pull all from the net. No need to change XP. I ran 4xxx series on XP with those games. no issues. If that is the OS flavor you like. Your choice. XP rocked. :)
3. Update your motherboard BIOS to latest and set it to default. Press the key to make all system defaults, and commit the changes.

Specific Settings:
1. Your GPU-Z screenshot shows the GPU engine running at full. It should ideally power down. Some setting on your CCC setting, for profiles.
2. Get your RAM to JEDEC#1 as per the SPD screenshot of CPU-Z -- with 1.8V. Your timings as of now are 6-6-6-18.
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how do i install updates for xp without running automatic update because my version is non genuine....
 
arjie said:
You could be blue-screening. Some systems restart on a BSOD. Disable that.
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now its ok i successfully installed 9.12 drivers

asingh said:
Ok...I would advice this:

Do the global changes first:
1. CCC update - done.
2. XP update(s) - pull all from the net. No need to change XP. I ran 4xxx series on XP with those games. no issues. If that is the OS flavor you like. Your choice. XP rocked. :)
3. Update your motherboard BIOS to latest and set it to default. Press the key to make all system defaults, and commit the changes.

Specific Settings:
1. Your GPU-Z screenshot shows the GPU engine running at full. It should ideally power down. Some setting on your CCC setting, for profiles.
2. Get your RAM to JEDEC#1 as per the SPD screenshot of CPU-Z -- with 1.8V. Your timings as of now are 6-6-6-18.
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i set the BIOS to load optimal defaults .. and the RAM speed remained same 6-6-6-18-24 .. no change in perfomance ..
 
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I have not run OCCT for long so I am not too sure, but aren't you supposed to have error-free run. You are having 3 errors and I assume those are due to RAM... It was culprit earlier and most likely it is culprit now.

Also, folks can you tell what are the green lines... do they CPU. If yes, is it normal for the CPU go to zero load while running the test?

Ripple on VCore is bad, but that's because of your PSU and is most likely not behind your computer restarts.

Now that you have successfully installed 9.12 catalyst, I suggest you run an half hour or one hour Furmark after remaining Furmark.exe

Also put your 4850 @ default speed (625Mhz) before running the test. The idea is to check for artifacts or GPU errors.

more later...
 
morgoth said:
I have not run OCCT for long so I am not too sure, but aren't you supposed to have error-free run. You are having 3 errors and I assume those are due to RAM... It was culprit earlier and most likely it is culprit now.

Also, folks can you tell what are the green lines... do they CPU. If yes, is it normal for the CPU go to zero load while running the test?

Ripple on VCore is bad, but that's because of your PSU and is most likely not behind your computer restarts.

Now that you have successfully installed 9.12 catalyst, I suggest you run an half hour or one hour Furmark after remaining Furmark.exe

Also put your 4850 @ default speed (925Mhz) before running the test. The idea is to check for artifacts or GPU errors.

more later...
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this test was before i put the RAM in another slot... now i dont get errors..

i ran furmark for 10 minutes and OCCT test for 15 minutes.... the fps was stable... and temperature reached to 72
12v ripple
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^^ I was in hurry, so wrote 925Mhz instead of 625 Mhz... anyways that doesn't matter now. It seems your GPU too is fine.

Are you still having problems of game crash after Catalyst 9.12 or is it just low frame rates now?
 
morgoth said:
^^ I was in hurry, so wrote 925Mhz instead of 625 Mhz... anyways that doesn't matter now. It seems your GPU too is fine.

Are you still having problems of game crash after Catalyst 9.12 or is it just low frame rates now?
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no crahes .. low frames is the prob ....
more important is the fps stability .. in burrnout paradise the fps dips down to 49
from 60 fps at some points in road rage.... burnout paradise is very stable fps wise right... ?
 
^^ that's not a bad dip... I mean 49FPS (minimum) in a modern game at 1440X900 (I suppose everything is at high) doesn't sound too bad.
See this link: Game Benchmarks: Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box - Review Tom's Hardware : Radeon HD 4850 Vs. GeForce GTS 250: Non-Reference Battle

You are getting the results that are quite expected. Similarly, Crysis Warhead and Far Cry 2 can be pretty demanding at every thing max. If you are comparing your card to what 4850 scores in reviews, you will see that your HD4850 is somewhat slower. But that is expected because reviewers often use extreme processors at 3.5Ghz or more with pretty good RAM.

Difference of up to 3 to 5 FPS between your scores and reviewers score is alright.

If you have 3D vantage (or download it), you can do a run. I too have HD4850 and I will test it tonight. Then we can compare the scores. If vantage scores are similar, your computer is fine. (of course, you should still change your SMPS if possible).
 
morgoth said:
^^ that's not a bad dip... I mean 49FPS (minimum) in a modern game at 1440X900 (I suppose everything is at high) doesn't sound too bad.

See this link: Game Benchmarks: Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box - Review Tom's Hardware : Radeon HD 4850 Vs. GeForce GTS 250: Non-Reference Battle

You are getting the results that are quite expected. Similarly, Crysis Warhead and Far Cry 2 can be pretty demanding at every thing max. If you are comparing your card to what 4850 scores in reviews, you will see that your HD4850 is somewhat slower. But that is expected because reviewers often use extreme processors at 3.5Ghz or more with pretty good RAM.

Difference of up to 3 to 5 FPS between your scores and reviewers score is alright.

If you have 3D vantage (or download it), you can do a run. I too have HD4850 and I will test it tonight. Then we can compare the scores. If vantage scores are similar, your computer is fine. (of course, you should still change your SMPS if possible).
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i dont have direct x 10 so cant run vantage please run 3dmark 06 ... i got a score of 11183 in 3dmark 06 ....

morgoth said:
^^ that's not a bad dip... I mean 49FPS (minimum) in a modern game at 1440X900 (I suppose everything is at high) doesn't sound too bad.

See this link: Game Benchmarks: Burnout Paradise: The Ultimate Box - Review Tom's Hardware : Radeon HD 4850 Vs. GeForce GTS 250: Non-Reference Battle

You are getting the results that are quite expected. Similarly, Crysis Warhead and Far Cry 2 can be pretty demanding at every thing max. If you are comparing your card to what 4850 scores in reviews, you will see that your HD4850 is somewhat slower. But that is expected because reviewers often use extreme processors at 3.5Ghz or more with pretty good RAM.

Difference of up to 3 to 5 FPS between your scores and reviewers score is alright.

If you have 3D vantage (or download it), you can do a run. I too have HD4850 and I will test it tonight. Then we can compare the scores. If vantage scores are similar, your computer is fine. (of course, you should still change your SMPS if possible).
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that 49- 60 fps is with ssao off ssao reduce fps to 45 with minimum fps to 35
 
ur scores are pretty much good

whats ur processor? minimum frame rates for certain games depend on processor, and reviewers use Core i7 at 3.5GHz or so, i.e. the scores are not directly comparable.
 
comp@ddict said:
ur scores are pretty much good

whats ur processor? minimum frame rates for certain games depend on processor, and reviewers use Core i7 at 3.5GHz or so, i.e. the scores are not directly comparable.
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my processor is amd Phenom ii x2 550 BE ... in GRID i get 40 - 60 fps.. i should be gettin 65 + fps? at max playable
 
@OP:

You can tell if you have fine FPS once Morgoth posts his 3dMark results. You still getting that stuttering..?
 
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