Belgian GP 2008
- Thread starter Nikhil
- Start date
- Status
i find the punishment justified. He gained an advantage as much as Mclaren would like to claim otherwise. How? its simple and just as a few straight reports have clearly analysed, had LH backed off and gone around the chicane properly once it was clear kimi was ahead enough to close the door on him as he did, the difference in speed and lost momentum would have been much more than a mere 6kmph as Mclaren claimed it was at the crossing of the start line.
Rather, by opting to cut the chicane (which is interesting in the first place because if you watch the footage carefully and see how he managed to slow down so rapidly and perfectly use the run off area, he could have easily managed to slow to the same extent and actually take the on track route) he came out well ahead of Kimi and had enough time to "position/reposition" his car waiting for Kimi to go past. That in itself is an advantage because when you look carefully its almost like he used it as a "rolling start" resuming his challenge almost alongside kimi and not from behind him even if he was just 6kmph slower across the line the point being he did not return enough of the lead.
You cannot cut a chicane and resume an attack alongside the car that was ahead of you in the first place at the previous chicane and had he done the normal racing practice of going around the chicane on track he would have been much further behind at the resumption of the challenge. There would have been a significant difference had it been done right.
That is the point a lot of people seem to miss.
Rather, by opting to cut the chicane (which is interesting in the first place because if you watch the footage carefully and see how he managed to slow down so rapidly and perfectly use the run off area, he could have easily managed to slow to the same extent and actually take the on track route) he came out well ahead of Kimi and had enough time to "position/reposition" his car waiting for Kimi to go past. That in itself is an advantage because when you look carefully its almost like he used it as a "rolling start" resuming his challenge almost alongside kimi and not from behind him even if he was just 6kmph slower across the line the point being he did not return enough of the lead.
You cannot cut a chicane and resume an attack alongside the car that was ahead of you in the first place at the previous chicane and had he done the normal racing practice of going around the chicane on track he would have been much further behind at the resumption of the challenge. There would have been a significant difference had it been done right.
That is the point a lot of people seem to miss.
mach9 said:
BS :bleh:
If you have watched the race .. hamilton erased the gap between him and kimi in that very lap ... they were close at the last corner... lewis tried to overtake kimi at the final corner .. but since kimi shut the door (fair enough by kimi) , Lewis had to brake late and he ended up overshooting the chicane. He joined ahead of Kimi ... let Kimi pass him ...overtakes kimi by tucking in his slip stream ...kimi tries to defend his position ...but it was just not enough since the ferrari was struggling BIG time in the wet ... and that is how Lewis managed to erase the 5 second gap between him and Kimi ....race control confirms (twice) that everything is within the Rules ... and the race progresses for two more laps.
How about a petition to stop Hamilton from trying to gain unfair advantage in future races? That will make more sense. :lol:
Race control = Charlie and whatever he said at that stage was his personal opinion and can't be held as the official verdict, I think. There were doubts if at all the appeal was admissible since one can't appeal against a drive through penalty.
Race control = Charlie and whatever he said at that stage was his personal opinion and can't be held as the official verdict, I think. There were doubts if at all the appeal was admissible since one can't appeal against a drive through penalty.
hyeah:
abhisheksahas said:
1. I did watch the race
2. Im aware of the sequence of events that you described.
3. Its not about hamilton erasing the gap, its about the sequence of events from cutting the chicane to his resumption of challenge past the start line.
4. If you understood my post, you'd realise that the manner in which he did it was wrong.
I quote myself again :
5. If you must debate, dont debate Hamilton was faster, kimi was caught or EVENTUALLY he would have overtaken. Please focus your attention on the event that is under investigation and in direct relation to which hamilton was penalised. As everyone says, NOT ENOUGH was given back from the gain. Had he done it right there was NO WAY he would have able to mount a challenge from where he did which was just alongside and in clean air and not from behind the ferrari.
6. Race Control could have said what they wanted. Charlie himself could have said what he wanted. It wasnt their jurisdiction from what i understand IMO, the stewards have the power to make a ruling and thats what they did. Job well done too IMO.
abhisheksahas said:
The Official Formula 1 Website
Read what the other f1 drivers told, all of them agree he had an advantage... and that he had done the same thing in france.. lewis caught kimi so fast cause kimi was in front and had to be cautious lewis could see what he is doing and then race accordingly.. the driver in front is always more cautious in conditions like that..
here we go... read this
BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula One | Hamilton finds little support
and this settles everything...
BBC SPORT | Motorsport | Formula One | Hamilton finds little support
and this settles everything...
- Status