Car & Bike Bike Advice, n00b, 65k

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hellgate said:
Sorry have to disagree on this. I own a Discover 125 DTS-i which I used to used during my college days. She has done 28k on the odo till date. The bike has lots of issues. During the first 2 years things were good but then problems started to appear. Fuel efficiency dropped. Also the bike is just not meant for highway riding.

Now i own a R15 v2 and the difference is quality (both build and ride) are worlds apart. Its returning great <acronym title='FunEnclave' class='bbc ipSeoAcronym'>FE</acronym> too (45kmpl avg) I have also driven a Fazer and its worth its price.

So I would suggest you to avoid Bajaj and bet Yamaha or Honda.
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thank you very much sir.. someone who does not approve of a bloody discover for long distance riding .. or even general riding as a matter of fact due to bajaj issues.. I find it very hard to understand why people are just pushing the discover and the pulsar 135 again and again.. theres nothing great about these bikes.. i cant even understand why they have to come out with a pulsar 135.. its idiotic to just come out with bikes with a difference 15 to 20 cc all the time.. i'd rather have a three variants in 150, 200, 250 rather than having 135, 150, 180, 200, 220.

if anyone wants something in 150, i cant see why they are not more inclined towards the yamaha's..

and i think yamaha is even more sensible in their product lineup.. atleast they havent foolishly just filled their production lines with engines differing by a few 10 15 cc.. and yamaha has done the most impressive and decent job in bringing downsized versions of their litre class superbikes and naked streetbikes .... if anyone doesnt agree with me, have a look at the FZ-S and the FZ-1. the FZ-1 being the naked 1000cc bike. and compare the Yamaha R15 v2 and the Yamaha R1, or even the yamaha R125 ..

bajaj just keeps throwing bones at us in small pieces and people lick it all up.. first they come up with a decent bike of its time, the Pulsar 150cc (now termed as the classic 150), then the 180, then 220 and 200 Fuel Injection, then discontinue 200, and finally come out with the pulsar 135 and call it a sportsbike..
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??? doesnt make sense. first launch a 220, call it the fastest indian, and then launch a 135, and call it a true sportsbike??? where the **** are they getting at???

I say please be sensible, stick with yamahas.... theres no point wasting money on a bajaj...go straight for either a 150, or a 250.. why waste time on deciding 135 or 150 or 180!!!! 15 to 30cc .. whats the big deal..
 
I believe you know more than all the people who test vehicles for a living don't you? Do spare some of your precious time to google why the P135 is so highly regarded by us lesser mortals. Its not a sports bike agreed but its more fun than an overpriced insipid honda unicorn or yamaha fz/fazer. Go on to Xbhp or some other auto forum and read a bit.

Your words in those forums would brand you as a pompous fool!

One more thing - cubic capacity is not the measure for performance by any standards - its the same for cars - the mitsubishi evo has a tiny engine compared to the american muscle cars but on any day and in any given situation, the mitsubishi evo will thrash the best of the sports cars out there (not super cars or hyper cars). Remember its always power to weight ratio which dictate performance.
 
^^^^^listen.. whatever said above, is my opinion alright???? i never claimed i know more than the experts .. and boss, i am not trying to insult anyone over here.. and quite frankly, i dont rely much on the reviews given by such websites and magazines.. they do give us a lot of insight about the vehicle, but, i have always felt that many times they try to push impressions brand wise.... and i am sure you will even find many places which will call you the pompous fool for loving the pulsar 135.. ..

second thing, its true that power to weight ratio dictates performance, but a higher capacity engine always holds for longer distances and runs more relaxed... eg.. you can compare the duke 200, and honda cbr 250, quite close performance figures, duke gets the advantage due to weight, but for longer endurance and ultimate performance, anyones gonna agree the honda's gonna do better because of a larger displacement.. the exception over here being the price difference...

second, the thread starter wants something for long distance daily riding and hence i am personally not advising for a lighter bike.. you guys keep blabbing about lightweight, power to weight ratio and all that.. but the practical thing here is the user is not trying to get the best times on some track .. he wants something to travel the long city distances and quite some bit of daily highway riding.. hence, a heavier bike is always gonna be a better option.. if you dont believe that, you gotta check your own preferences.. a heavier bike is going to provide more stability, in every case, high wind conditions, braking and an overall less fatigue driving experience.. .

please dont keep talking about power to weight ratio all the time..although a lower displacement engine might give out same time figures on the track due to a lighter weight of the vehicle, but a higher displacement engine is always gonna be more relaxed and have the ability to keep riding at lower rpms and have much better endurance than the smaller engines..
 
Op- both CBZ extreme and Unicorn are best suited to you. Both are great bikes in this segment. Take a trial of both and buy whichever you like. You shouldn't be disappointed.
 
Dont go for a bike below 150cc as the light weight bikes would be prone to crosswinds on the highway and this is very bad.
 
Ofc the discover is not suited for long drives.. sorry that i forgot about that... and definitely you should look for comfort driving positions because some bikes like apache are not suited for long drives you get back aches
 
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