Bombay HC okays culling of stray dogs

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Darthcoder said:
It isnt really about the dog attacks but the barking by dogs throughout the night that pi$$e$ me off. I am a dog lover too but I love my sleep more than I love stray dogs :|
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barking of dogs justifies killin them ???

to me the biggest problem is a marriage ceremony hall next to my house...
they freakin keep on bajaoing those banjos day and night...

they dont care if someone has died in our society or someone is dying....

very next to the day mumbai was attacked, there was a huge reception with full loud speakrs etc when the nation is standing on the graves of the martyrs and the innocent victims..

i wonder i can ask for culling of those involved @ such acts... where even repeated complaints to police have failed..
 
Darthcoder said:
Yes, equate humans to dogs and cull them humans.

What next, equate humans to chicken and eat their meat? :|
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buddy u are missin my point...

humans have got a natural attribute to THINK (+/-) of any aspect... yet they do engage in loads of wrong doings... ( human rites are still applied to them )

animals dont...
 
Well i was curious to examine that 'thinking' part but cant find any link to this

It then came out with its 156-page judgment, which finally went against the dog lovers' arguments.
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Dinesh_Malhotra said:
i dont understand wat grudges ppl have against dogs...
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That's often the case with proponents of dog rights. I personally feel that dog lovers tend to mix their happy emotions(from childhood or wherever) towards their pets and perceive any action on the stray menace as a personal attack. Not every dog is like your pet dog :cool2: . I'm sure even dog lovers would agree. Everytime, I hear them telling me that each dog has it's own personality etc etc.

i for one have been bitten by dogs twice.. yet i dont find them my enemy..
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Well, not everyone is at tolerant...or as lucky to have minor injuries. Imagine a mother finding out that a child has been bitten or even killed by a stray. Try telling her about animal rights or that the dog did not know what it was doing(or whatever excuse one can come up with to justify why a 2-5 year old was at fault.)

when we dont expect humans to behave rationally.... y animals ?
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Well, this is debatable. You don't expect a human to come and bite you in the foot early in the morning do you :P ? Also, is there any kind of doggy jail for irrational animals ;). Humans are held responsible for their actions. Not the case with dogs.

Dinesh_Malhotra said:
barking of dogs justifies killin them ???

to me the biggest problem is a marriage ceremony hall next to my house...

they freakin keep on bajaoing those banjos day and night...

they dont care if someone has died in our society or someone is dying....

very next to the day mumbai was attacked, there was a huge reception with full loud speakrs etc when the nation is standing on the graves of the martyrs and the innocent victims..

i wonder i can ask for culling of those involved @ such acts... where even repeated complaints to police have failed..
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Well, both are issues and deserve solutions. I understand the problem of noise that you are facing(I have also faced this). I think the people who are suffering from incessant barking of dogs at night also deserve similar understanding.

The problem with barking of dogs is that it's not restricted to strays but pets too. But strays are a much bigger menace as dogs are territorial and strays have fights almost every night.
 
Well, not everyone is at tolerant...or as lucky to have minor injuries. Imagine a mother finding out that a child has been bitten or even killed by a stray. Try telling her about animal rights or that the dog did not know what it was doing(or whatever excuse one can come up with to justify why a 2-5 year old was at fault.)
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nope i dint had a minor injury....
i was hospitalised for the same for 22 days with several stitches..
 
Shripad said:
Honestly 90% of the times, its humans who are directly responsible for attack by dogs on them.

Dogds dont bite for the fun of it, most of the bite cases happen either when these strays are harassed by kids, abnormal idiots, drunks and then they retaliate or by panic response( screaming, sudden movement etc ) of people which confuses the dogs and they end up biting people.
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I agree that there might be cases where strays are taunted. However, I disagree that people are out there just looking to pick a fight with strays. Often, defenceless small children have been the victims of attacks. It is often animal tendency to attack smaller animals and height of the victims plays an important role in such attacks. That is why so many children are attacked. Also, children unwittingly run after such strays thereby getting into trouble.

I hope someone files a case against this in SC. I am totally against this. If HC is serious about this, then they must make sure the people who are suppose to capture these dogs are properly trained to spot the trouble makers. Otherwise these idiots will just round up dogs randomly and start killing them ( there is money to be made even out of that :|, its a cold fact ).

And there are plenty of people just waiting for decision like this which is taken without thinking it through.
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I've my doubts with the sterlization program also. I'm quite sure it's not that transparent too given the vast amount of money and human resource necessary to achieve some success.

Shripad said:
sterilization is not quick fix, it takes generations of dogs to finally achieve manageable numbers. It happens gradually and honestly I can see the results here.

Killing is not a solution and neither its ethical. Its easy, but its not right.
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Well, IMO, the amount of money and human effort that is spent on sterilization can be put to other good use. Strays are like any other menace. (You don't sterilize every cockroach in your house do you :P. )

I personally feel very bad at the amount of time and resource wasted on such an activity in a nation like ours because I know it won't be done right. Even culling (which is so much more easier vs sterlization) has to be done periodically to keep the numbers down so I find it hard to believe that sterlization will have an impact.
 
If ppl have sentiments towards killing dogs...den killing of ALL types of animals shud be banned...

I dont undertand wats d difference between a Dog & a Chicken. Ppl can eat chicken, but wen it comes to Dogs, they "CHICKEN" out.

IF you'll stop the EATING, the KILLING stops automatically. Personally, I have no sympathy for killing of Dogs. Coz if anybody does, they shud protest killing of ALL sorts of animals (Goats, Pigs, Cows, etc.)
 
I dont undertand wats d difference between a Dog & a Chicken. Ppl can eat chicken, but wen it comes to Dogs, they "CHICKEN" out.
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oh really...go look into the history for the kind of bonding that exists between man and canines....

how many in india breed dogs to eat their meat...
 
I am wondering.. when the population grows too large.. will they start killing drunks or roadside beggars as well??

The decision cannot be totally justified but then man's always been on the selfish side...
 
dj_faithless said:
If ppl have sentiments towards killing dogs...den killing of ALL types of animals shud be banned...

I dont undertand wats d difference between a Dog & a Chicken. Ppl can eat chicken, but wen it comes to Dogs, they "CHICKEN" out.

IF you'll stop the EATING, the KILLING stops automatically. Personally, I have no sympathy for killing of Dogs. Coz if anybody does, they shud protest killing of ALL sorts of animals (Goats, Pigs, Cows, etc.)
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what great views u have sire..

hats off ...

cockroach = dog !!
i prefer callin Human = dog
 
Add mosquitoes and virus to the list. Not every life form is valued the same way. There are people who wont take non veg just coz they value their life. Then there are ones who are capable of killing fellow humans. It just depends on how barbaric the individual is. But when a national institute of this calibre makes such statements its a shame.
animal shelters are the solution to stray ones. But their numbers will make it difficult. So they have to be sterlised(some ngo's are against this) to bring them under control. Instead choosing such methods are pathetic. Whats next, nuke kashmir to kill terrorists? Its an easy way out as well.
 
Ambar said:
What exactly gives us humans the right to start killing living things? Who are we to decide :S
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Survival of the fittest and evolution :)
I totally agree with sydras's viewpoint.
 
Ambar said:
What exactly gives us humans the right to start killing living things? Who are we to decide :S
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Our own safety , who are we to then cull poultry with bird flu?
 
Kill people in the third world. . . They are weaker . . .Will get rid of shortage of resources
Hacker said:
Survival of the fittest and evolution :)
I totally agree with sydras's viewpoint.
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Shripad said:
Honestly 90% of the times, its humans who are directly responsible for attack by dogs on them.

Dogs dont bite for the fun of it, most of the bite cases happen either when these strays are harassed by kids, abnormal idiots, drunks and then they retaliate or by panic response( screaming, sudden movement etc ) of people which confuses the dogs and they end up biting people.

I hope someone files a case against this in SC. I am totally against this. If HC is serious about this, then they must make sure the people who are suppose to capture these dogs are properly trained to spot the trouble makers. Otherwise these idiots will just round up dogs randomly and start killing them ( there is money to be made even out of that :|, its a cold fact ).

And there are plenty of people just waiting for decision like this which is taken without thinking it through.
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+1 to that !

Well said indeed...

Only about 5% (or lesser)of the stray dogs all over actually end up having Rabies,the rest being provoked into biting!

Agreed some have behavioral issues but there's always the option of treatment or 'moving' them to a remote area...

Sterilizing dogs help in controlling the population to an extent ...

But do these ppl even do it consistently ???!

The idea of KILLING dogs because they BARK at night isn't really sensible !

If you personally can't stand the dogs barking at night,just shoo them away! Or contact the concerned authorities to take them away if the problem is that serious!

IF ONE IS SURE THAT A STRAY HE/SHE HAS SEEN HAS RABIES,THEN IT'S TIME TO PUT DOWN THE DOG !

So please do consider the above before ranting about killing them altogether !

Nobody trained these dogs, but if you are good to them, they automatically develop sense of loyalty towards people in the area.

Killing is not a solution and neither its ethical. Its easy, but its not right.
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^^^ That's right !

And to those who don't agree that injured/troubled stray dogs can be rehabilitated,visit the nearest BLUE CROSS !
 
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