Bombay HC okays culling of stray dogs

[Arya]

I like dogs. Had a couple of boxers back home. Strays from my street used to hangout all day outside my home, and my dogs were cool with it.

My only problem is when you're going on bike....late at night, them jumping out of nowhere. Sometimes I chase these dogs for over a km on my bike. At least it wont dare to do that again to someone else in that night.

Some little children were killed by these strays within span of few weeks at bangalore. This brought some action, culling started. Nobody from around was ready to take the job hence Bangalore Mahanagara Palike got some professional killers from Kerala.

Couple of days later, there were pictures of dogs with metal wire around their neck, being dragged in the streets. Many people drove these guys away from their locality. This is what saddens me. people jump to kill 'em thing.

I don't have any problem with that. But at least don't torture them. Its better to leave them alone if sterilization or killing them without much pain is not possible.

 

[..:: Free Radical ::..]

cull them terrorists first...don't wait for them to bite you back!

They are a bigger threat to humanity than dogs.

 

[Darthcoder]

Human Life > *

The idea of KILLING dogs because they BARK at night isn't really sensible !If you personally can't stand the dogs barking at night,just shoo them away! Or contact the concerned authorities to take them away if the problem is that serious!

Yes, you expect me to get up at 3 and shoo them away every night :|.

If a dog disturbs my sleep am willing to shoot it myself, no one has the right to take away my sleep.All the "dog lovers" should have strays barking outside their home for an year, then we'll see their "Puppy love" come out :|.

 

[kippu]

when i was in bombay last year i was up in 8th floor and there were some dogs barking ...annoying as f**k... got up and went to the terrace ....let out a big yell...that stopped the barking ...went down and slept

 

[Safin]

I can only think that government will have this to say

1) Dogs do attack on their own and i have seen it especially during their mating season. They are openly aggressive and many kids(and elders included) have been bitten by the stray dogs.

2) The solution is that they should not be on the streets at all. So build shelters for stray dogs. Building good shelters costs money. At a time when we have problems with old aged people not getting proper shelters and living on the streets, whats the priority?

Agreed some have behavioral issues but there's always the option of treatment or 'moving' them to a remote area...

Sterilizing dogs help in controlling the population to an extent ...

But do these ppl even do it consistently ???!

What is remote in India? People live in villages also, right? You can't look for solutions for Mumbai. You are transferring the problems to some other place and as it is, a dog accustomed to one environment will have even more behavioral issues when his environment is changed.

Sterilizing is a good alternative. But i have seen that op at close quarters in a closed estate area and found that it's not as easy as it seems. There are first just too many dogs around, then there are even more ill-equipped guys handling them and the way they handle is ghastly to say the least. Plus it will require funds. I am not sure how much but am guessing its significant amount.

If you personally can't stand the dogs barking at night,just shoo them away! Or contact the concerned authorities to take them away if the problem is that serious!

Take them away to where? To someone else's backyard? Do we have so many dog shelters to take them to? Maybe others won't share your enthusiasm of calling "authorities" (and don't we know how willing they are anyway) every night to take the dogs away. Maybe you will, but how many others will?

 

[Shripad]

There is 1 very critical point many people who start comparing dogs to chicken miss.

Dogs are self aware. Almost all medium size to big size mammals are self aware. They have basic intelligence to understand even human conversations and commands, they have moods, emotions. They can be happy or unhappy, and they will show it, they get jealous, they mourn. And this is precisely why I am against killing dogs even for our safety or convenience.

I am non vegetarian. But for the same reason mentioned above, I do not touch any red meat. I will never do.

I still dont go around telling people not to eat red meat as its their choice, but at least in those cases its for food and not because you dont like the noise they make or because they bite. ( people bite, young kids bite, and if you are soo afraid of fatal disease transmission, we as a people even do that, many times on purpose. )

 

[Safin]

Umm Shripad, Do you mean to say a chicken is not self aware or intelligent? Doesn't it value its own life? What bigger awareness are you looking for.

And i think the reasoning of what level of intelligence makes one "not fit to be killed" is purely subjective. Your level might not be another person's level.

 

[vishalrao]

Why stop at chickens? How do we know plants are not self aware? Just because they don't move around with speed showing signs of life, doesn't mean we should kill plants to make that aloo-paalak bhaaji, does it??? We still kill helpless plants to feed ourselves, don't we?

 

[cricfan]

when i was in bombay last year i was up in 8th floor and there were some dogs barking ...annoying as f**k... got up and went to the terrace ....let out a big yell...that stopped the barking ...went down and slept

lol......that was a funny post...

 

[Safin]

Why stop at chickens? How do we know plants are not self aware? Just because they don't move around with speed showing signs of life, doesn't mean we should kill plants to make that aloo-paalak bhaaji, does it??? We still kill helpless plants to feed ourselves, don't we?

:lol: Then decide whether you want to live at all or not?

Obviously in nature you are going to kill someone else below your food chain to survive.

As human's we are now at a level in food chain where we can make choices. The question here is not about eating choices, but about tackling a problem thats a growing nuisance in almost every city/village. If we can do it humanely, good enough; if not, it has to be done some other way.

 

[cool_cat]

Make it a compulsory law all over India and especially kerala.I am afraid of these creatures which chases with the sound of my bullet heard ! :x

and please lock maneka gandhi and pita ,daya etc into some asylum.

 

[thetoxicmind]

Agreed some have behavioral issues but there's always the option of treatment or 'moving' them to a remote area...

By remote i meant unhabited...

Or like someone suggested,a dog farm/pound...

Yeah,everything costs money but when they spend here ,they save the same elsewhere...

and possibly control the problem.

If you personally can't stand the dogs barking at night,just shoo them away! Or contact the concerned authorities to take them away if the problem is that serious!

Shoo them away by throwing some stones in their direction!? (not at them!)

They'd rather call the authorities(whether they are willing or not is not my prob,complain bout them!) to pick up the lot than allowing for some rule to SHOOT them!?

@Darthcoder

Quote what i had to say and comment on that !

Keep the crappy NiCknaMes to yourself...

 

[Darthcoder]

^^ Hey hey, My bad , Post edited .

 

[Darthcoder]

Why stop at chickens? How do we know plants are not self aware? Just because they don't move around with speed showing signs of life, doesn't mean we should kill plants to make that aloo-paalak bhaaji, does it??? We still kill helpless plants to feed ourselves, don't we?

We do not **KILL** plants, we pluck their fruits/flowers which regrow soon.
See the difference, no?

 

[The Sorcerer]

Putting the dog to sleep is as silly as relocating them. You dont solve a problem by sweeping the problem to somebody's places. This isnt garbage we talking about. Just because we are the dominating species in the world, does it gives us the right to play with other living things? What happened to the idea of promoting and encouraging people to adopt strays- that wont solve the problem but putting down to sleep can be considered as a last resort and many dogs can be saved. I dont like dogs- but killing dogs is not the answer.

 

[rahul1059]

Human is so selfish , it will not leave any species by the very end and will give excuses till last day.....Killing of dogs is one of the trailor of bigger picture , no land (forest) is left for the unspoken animals for eg tigers which were like 40k 100yrs ago in India is now 1.4k only....

I have seen dogs in almost all villages and cities also but difference is that in rural areas no conflict between them and human but in metro cities not all but quite a majority dont like them ...

It brings tears in my eyes when i saw torture on animals ...

 

[Ambar]

All the "dog lovers" should have strays barking outside their home for an year, then we'll see their "Puppy love" come out :|.

I have a dog that barks almost ever night at hearing even the remotest of sounds outside. Never felt like killing it :hap5:

 

[..:: Free Radical ::..]

I say sell them to a neighboring country. they eat dog meat.

 

[Shripad]

Umm Shripad, Do you mean to say a chicken is not self aware or intelligent? Doesn't it value its own life? What bigger awareness are you looking for.
And i think the reasoning of what level of intelligence makes one "not fit to be killed" is purely subjective. Your level might not be another person's level.

lol those links are useless.

Every animal that has survived evolution has basic intelligence, self control and ability to adjust. Even ants and honeybees communicate with each other.

But medium to large size mammals are self aware and conscious. And self awareness does not mean ability to think ahead.

Dogs, cats, most other mammals, some big reptiles and also some birds with larger brain have capacity to develop complex social relationship with their own species as well as humans and understand each other as well as people. And not it does not mean ability to train these animals, but much more than that.

Every dog or cat owner will know what I am talking. These animals are even able to sense your mood and behave accordingly. Thats what self awareness is. Dont try to sell awareness and self control as self awareness and ability to sense danger and protect oneself. Those are instincts and all animals have them be it chicken or cockroach.

We all have to kill another lifeform to survive, there is no running away from that. But we can atleast try to develop ability to live with these animals and not harm them because we cant learn to sleep with their noises. ( put the damn earplugs if you have to ). If you can get used to all traffic noise around you, and sleep till 12 noon on weekend when whole world around you is making noise and passing by, you can learn to live with the barking noise. Your brain does eventually learn to filter that out and go to sleep.
Also most of the people who complain of sudden dog barking actually get up out of curiosity to go and take a peek and try to see why they are barking. :bleh:

Its more of a human reaction than nuisance

If you have neighbor's dog always barking at neight, you will eventually learn to filter its noise:bleh:

ANd if you have to complain, dont file a complain to take the dog away, most pet dogs keep barking because they are either tied down or left outside home. They dont like that and keep barking. File a complain against owner telling him to take dog in with him when he goes to sleep.

ANd to the owners who dont like to take that responsibility, well they dont deserve that dog.

 

[GameNome]

I have a dog that barks almost ever night at hearing even the remotest of sounds outside. Never felt like killing it :hap5:

The difference is that you chose to have the dog in your house,nobody chooses to have strays barking outside thier house.

Stray dogs aren't worth discussing really there are bigger problems in India.Should they kill these stray dogs without torturing them i would have no problem.