Bombay HC okays culling of stray dogs

[manu1991]

lol those links are useless.

Every animal that has survived evolution has basic intelligence, self control and ability to adjust. Even ants and honeybees communicate with each other.

But medium to large size mammals are self aware and conscious. And self awareness does not mean ability to think ahead.

Dogs, cats, most other mammals, some big reptiles and also some birds with larger brain have capacity to develop complex social relationship with their own species as well as humans and understand each other as well as people. And not it does not mean ability to train these animals, but much more than that.

Every dog or cat owner will know what I am talking. These animals are even able to sense your mood and behave accordingly. Thats what self awareness is. Dont try to sell awareness and self control as self awareness and ability to sense danger and protect oneself. Those are instincts and all animals have them be it chicken or cockroach.

We all have to kill another lifeform to survive, there is no running away from that. But we can atleast try to develop ability to live with these animals and not harm them because we cant learn to sleep with their noises. ( put the damn earplugs if you have to ). If you can get used to all traffic noise around you, and sleep till 12 noon on weekend when whole world around you is making noise and passing by, you can learn to live with the barking noise. Your brain does eventually learn to filter that out and go to sleep.
Also most of the people who complain of sudden dog barking actually get up out of curiosity to go and take a peek and try to see why they are barking. :bleh:

Its more of a human reaction than nuisance

If you have neighbor's dog always barking at neight, you will eventually learn to filter its noise:bleh:

ANd if you have to complain, dont file a complain to take the dog away, most pet dogs keep barking because they are either tied down or left outside home. They dont like that and keep barking. File a complain against owner telling him to take dog in with him when he goes to sleep.

ANd to the owners who dont like to take that responsibility, well they dont deserve that dog.

Even rats possess metacognition, which would indicate at least a limited form of consciousness.

Metacognition in the rat. [Curr Biol. 2007] - PubMed Result

 

[Ambar]

The difference is that you chose to have the dog in your house,nobody chooses to have strays barking outside thier house.

Yes but my point was that barking(irrespective of it being my dog) does not make me want to *kill* ANY dog. There have been numerous occasions where dogs in the streets fight late in the night, but you just have to accept it, you cant go around killing everyone that gives you a problem.

 

[thetoxicmind]

We all have to kill another lifeform to survive, there is no running away from that. But we can atleast try to develop ability to live with these animals and not harm them because we cant learn to sleep with their noises. ( put the damn earplugs if you have to ). If you can get used to all traffic noise around you, and sleep till 12 noon on weekend when whole world around you is making noise and passing by, you can learn to live with the barking noise. Your brain does eventually learn to filter that out and go to sleep.

Also most of the people who complain of sudden dog barking actually get up out of curiosity to go and take a peek and try to see why they are barking.

Like he said..

Learn to live with it or take some action(no shortage of alternatives here!)

KILLING IS NOT THE INSTANT SOLUTION is what all you ppl supporting the current cause here , need to understand !

If that's the case,will u kill your neighbour's dog just because it didn't let you sleep last night,thanks to its constant barking!?Oh yes,it ain't a STRAY right?It's someone's pet!

Believe me,I have a dog that barks at every stranger who enters the building,it kinda gets to me but I've learnt to live with it...

So instead of shouting out "LET THEM KILL 'EM DAMN STRAYS!"

Try to come up with some way of helping them out,some kinda feasible solution or learn to live with it...

Hope some ppl here change their P.O.V...

Over n Out...

 

[cool_cat]

dog colonies are the main source of rabies.dont forget that.also ,they pollute every other thing which is public .

WE MUST BRING DOG LICENSE HERE IN INDIA.REST OTHER DOGS MUST BE KILLED OR GIVEN TO DOG SUPPORTERS AND PITA MEMBER's HOUSE.I AM SURE THEY WILL ENJOY MAD STRAY DOGS STAYING WITH THEM

 

[kippu]

http://in.youtube.com/watch?v=YVLv_Qh4Sdw&feature=related

this is what is going to happen...i could not see it for more than 3 secs ...granted i have been a dog lover for my entire life but for all those advocating killing the dogs ...guys , seriously , have some heart please

 

[cool_cat]

I dont support killing of Cats BTW

 

[blr_p]

Also most of the people who complain of sudden dog barking actually get up out of curiosity to go and take a peek and try to see why they are barking.

In the middle of the night ? They could be barking over any inane reason.

If you have neighbor's dog always barking at neight, you will eventually learn to filter its noise

Heh, this is highly dependent on the kind of bark and no you can't filter it out, it operates at a frequency that penetrates even closed windows. Calling up the 'authorities' is a waste of time, they will say something sympathetic but i'll be damned if they will patrol at night to nab the troublemakers. They certainly aren't there during the day, nocturnal creatures they are.

I've yelled out at times in the middle of the night, chucked stones it works for a bit but the next day its back to square one

Bout the only thing i think might work is some sort of ultra-high frequency sound generator that just makes it uncomfortable for them to come close, but inaudible to humans.

But thats theory i wonder if there's any scientific basis to it.

 

[cricfan]

Unread Today, 03:26 AM

blr....i hope u were not woken up by dogs barking this time.....

 

[blr_p]

Hehe, no i've had a respite for some time now but the memories are still painful. I think one has to experience this to really understand the torture it puts you through. Sleep deprivation is a common tatic used to break ppl down during interrogations. It can be quite effective

The biggest culprit was the neighbour's dog that was let loose at night. Pretty soon it claimed the whole street. Anyone or thing intruding into the territory and it woud go off. Big Boss of the street. This one had a droning, howling bark, and then rapid fire short ones, makes for an excellent guard dog, can hear it for miles.

Repeatedly telling those ppl to keep their dog indoors at night worked for a few days and then back to square one again. Well, after those two kids got mauled, the papers were buzzing about how they would catch strays and this did the trick. I rarely got to hear that dog bark very much outdoors since. It still happens from time to time but greatly reduced.

I get the impression in this country, there are plenty of laws on the books, but how well are they enforced ?

Even if they have a law that says they can kill dogs i wonder to what extent it will be carried out.

But the threat that it may might be is all thats needed

 

[thetoxicmind]

dog colonies are the main source of rabies.dont forget that.also ,they pollute every other thing which is public .

WE MUST BRING DOG LICENSE HERE IN INDIA.REST OTHER DOGS MUST BE KILLED OR GIVEN TO DOG SUPPORTERS AND PITA MEMBER's HOUSE.I AM SURE THEY WILL ENJOY MAD STRAY DOGS STAYING WITH THEM

It's PETA !

 

[cool_cat]

actually with stray dog issue ,PETA is a PITA - Hence the ...

 

[Arya]

dog colonies are the main source of rabies.dont forget that.also ,they pollute every other thing which is public .

WE MUST BRING DOG LICENSE HERE IN INDIA.REST OTHER DOGS MUST BE KILLED OR GIVEN TO DOG SUPPORTERS AND PITA MEMBER's HOUSE.I AM SURE THEY WILL ENJOY MAD STRAY DOGS STAYING WITH THEM

Dog colonies? I havn't seen any. They live in human colonies for sure.

 

[Checksum]

I haven't been through the whole thread, but adding my 2 cents

I don't understand this hatred towards street dogs, to the extent of killing them in hordes. We have a group of 6-8 dogs in our locality, and those dogs do get out of control once a while. But I'm sure dogs aren't those kinds of animals that start attacking humans without provoking them. I was actually kind of annoyed at first, but as time went on, they actually proved useful. They 'patrol' the neighborhood at nights, and if they sense some visitor, they bark and alert the night guards. They actually prove to be very useful, and there hasn't been one single robbery in our vicinity in the past 8 years.

Killing off dogs with rabies "may" make sense, but mass culling doesn't.

 

[Arya]

for people who dont know what culling means...this is how its done down south, not sure if it will be any different in mumbai....after all we are all the same. I hope Raj Thakre survives this.

 

[cool_cat]

But I'm sure dogs aren't those kinds of animals that start attacking humans without provoking them

kabhi Ghar/Office ke bahar aake to dekh bhai.Dogs are mad(not as in mad dong).dog colonies are there which are settled in all towns

 

[sohail99]

Thats right if Peta nd all dog lovers love em so much! they should relocate all the strays to their colonies!!

will surely change them into hating them!!:rofl:

There is this stray in my colony! he/she(dunno:S ) just barks nd barks!!

sometimes i've tried to look into why the hell is that thing barking! nd after nights nd days of observation i found out that most of them keep on barking on each other!!

Hell, even inspite of their presence the house near which they would normally roam around got burgled 2wice!!:rofl:

I have a air-rifle(sniper) lying here waitin for the moment that unstoppable barking to start! then 'Bam' and sweet silence again! :rofl:

 

[kippu]

sohail you must feel so big and powerful

 

[sohail99]

Yea! at least the 'endless barking' situation is under my control!! :rofl:

 

[neomustdie]

the only thing i fear are dogs... ghosts and undead creatures looks tame comapre to a stray dog who is out for revenge for your previous life's sins... while aiming straight at your rear... LOL...

regards
neo