User Review Bosch SMS60L12IN Dishwasher Review

I was in search of dishwasher reviews for the past couple of years, specially from Indian users.
I couldn't find much except for a review or two on YouTube, but they were not in detail for me to take the plunge.

Finally I bit the bullet and bought a Bosch SMS60L12IN from Amazon for 31.5k.

I'd summarize few points which might be useful for prospective buyers.
This review applies to all dishwashers in general since all the models from different brands sold in India are more or less with similar specs.

Which Brand?
  • AFAIK Bosch, IFB, Siemens, LG & Samsung sell dishwashers in India.

  • Bosch has only one model in two colors with different model numbers.
    People quoted that the silver model is an upgraded one with water saving features blah blah blah.
    But I verified the specs and both are in fact color variants of same model.

    Siemens has a model or two IIRC, but they are priced higher and share 90% of the components with Bosch. Both are sold and serviced by same channels too.

  • IFB has 5-6 models, out of which all the models have 12 place holders except the top of the line Neptune SX1, which has 15 place holders. This particular model has extra pullout basket for small cutlery, which is of practical use. I later found out how significant this feature is (More on this later).

  • LG and Samsung sell one model each, which are priced higher and I doubt their after sales service w.r.t dishwashers.

  • I found build quality to be better in Bosch.

  • In terms of service I heard/found Bosch to be better, can't comment on the spares availability/cost of spares at this moment. There are many horror stories about IFB service, so I stayed out of this brand.
Purchase and Installation

  • For months, I pestered almost all major stores for a demo and no one gave a positive reply. Croma, Bajaj electronics have a Bosch demo dishwasher with transparent window to see how the dishwasher works etc, but they never showed interest in showing a demo as well.

  • All of them were offering a discount of 1-2 k, so I chose Amazon as I was getting it for almost 8k discount on MRP. These store guys were selling very old stocks, but the one I ordered from Amazon was imported in Dec 2016. I think all Bosch dishwashers sold in India are made in Turkey.

  • I got a installation request acknowledgement from Bosch on the very next day I ordered on Amazon. They had been following up for installation even before it was delivered from Amazon and installation was done within hours of delivery. Satisfied with the overall purchase and installation experience.

  • There is nothing complicated about installation, just connecting the inlet hose and proper drainage for drain pipe. The purpose of waiting for installation is more or less to verify damage and to avail warranty.

  • Also ours is a free standing unit, if you want to integrate this into kitchen, you might need to get some additional work done to mount the machine into place.

What are these three cleaning agents?
  • A dishwasher needs a combination of three cleaning agents. Using all three( Salt+Detergent+Rinse Aid ) is the key to perfectly washed dishes. You can use any brand of dishwasher cleaning agents, as long as they are dishwasher compatible.

    Bosch recommends "Finish" products, which are imported and cost a bomb when compared to other brands. IFB sells their own brand of cleaning agents.

    We personally use & recommend Fortune Products >> http://fortunedishwashing.com/
    They are cheaper compared to imported brands.
    I compared the wash quality with Finish and I couldn't find any difference.
    Many Bosch/IFB users gave similar feedback about Fortune products.
    They are not easily available in super markets, but you can order from their website or their Amazon store.

  • What are these three cleaning agents anyway?
    • Salt - Don't confuse this for normal table salt.
      This is special salt, used to convert hard water into soft water which prevents hard water stains(white powdery stains) on the dishes. It is mandatory if your water hardness is medium to high. Depending on your dishwasher model, you can adjust the salt dispensing levels.

      You don't need to refill salt for every wash, you need to refill once in a month or two based on usage.In our case, we use dishwasher everyday and we need to refill it once a month with 1KG of salt. Cost of refill is around Rs. 100 per KG.

      http://fortunedishwashing.com/product/fortune-dishwasher-salt/

    • Detergent - As the name suggests, these are detergents specially made for dishwashers.
      You need to fill the detergent for every wash, just like a washing machine.

      http://fortunedishwashing.com/product/fortune-dishwasher-detergent-1-kg-pack/

    • Rinse Aid - It is a special liquid used to reduce the surface tension of water, so that water won't stick on the dishes during rinsing. This actually makes a lot of difference to the final wash quality. If you don't use it, then the dishes would have water droplet stains and white stains.

      You might have to refill rinse aid every 10 washes on average. So a 500ml Rinse Aid should be sufficient for a month or two, if you use the dishwasher daily.

      http://fortunedishwashing.com/product/fortune-rinse-aid/

      You can buy a combo pack of all three, which is more in tune with the usage cycle.
      http://fortunedishwashing.com/produ...tarter-combo-pack-free-descaler-worth-rs-150/

    • All in one Tablets - If you are lazy and don't want to buy all three of them and refill every time. These all in one tablets come with a combo of Detergent/Salt & Rinse aid all in a single tablet. You will need to use one tablet per wash.

      Manual says that if your water hardness is medium to high, then you would still need to use salt in addition to these tablets. I've tried to use tablet alone and the results weren't great. Ended up using the additional salt as well. So I won't recommend tablets, plus these are costly compared to the purchasing the individual detergents.

      For example, this costs almost 1200 for 34 tablets >> http://www.amazon.in/Finish-All-Max-Powerball-Tablets/dp/B01ET6E9XE?tag=googinhydr18418-21

Stacking the dishes and Usage
  • You need to dump all left over food particles from the utensils. Soaking is not necessary for normal utensils. Wok's on which deep fries are done, would wash well with soaking.

  • Plates go into plate holders and large dishes go on bottom rack.
    Small plates, cups, small utensils go into the top rack. There is a free standing basket for cutlery into which you place all the ladles, forks & spoons. But using this basket is tricky, as it can be placed only on bottom basket and is difficult to fit in if the bottom layer is full. This is where extra basket in IFB Neptune SX1 comes handy. Otherwise you are forced to use the assorted holder in the top rack for placing spoons and forks.

  • All dishes should be facing downwards on the racks and should not be stacked on top of other.
    Stacking the dishes is tricky and time taking for the first few runs till you get the hang of it.

  • Once you are done stacking, check for the refill indicators. Only for the first use you need to fill the salt and rinse aid. Post that you need to fill them only if the respective refill indicator is lit.
    As I had mentioned earlier, refill cycle is roughly once a month for salt and once every 10 - 15 washes for Rinse Aid (100-150ml per refill).

  • Now comes the wash options, depending on the model there will be Auto, Eco and Intense modes.
    We normally use Eco and Auto modes and are yet to use Intense kadai mode.
    Since water temperature goes to around 70 degrees, we never risked using that mode owing to plastic boxes in the wash.

    Auto/Eco modes usually take 1.5 hrs for the cycle to finish.

    Unlike a washing machine, there is no lock for the door, no sound indicators for the wash completion.
    You can open the door in the middle of wash, it automatically pauses and resumes once the door is shut. But avoid opening the door as the vapor that spews out is very hot.

    Once the wash cycle is done, machine turns itself off without any buzzer.
Wash Quality
  • Aluminium, Wood and plastics which are not dishwasher compatible should not be used in dishwasher according to manual. I tried aluminium dishes, they got cleaned properly, but are slightly discolored and have white stains even after rinse aid is used. So I won't recommend using aluminium utensils.
    I've used wooden spatula's and wash is fine.

    Silverware, steel, glass and food grade plastics are washed perfectly. Shine on the utensils and the squeaky noise from the clean dishes is so satisfying.

  • Specially if you are using Tupperware boxes for carrying lunch, the difference in wash quality is reason enough for you to buy a dishwasher. Even those sticky oil stains are washed perfectly, leaving the boxes squeaky clean. When we used to wash the dishes manually, getting the oil stains from plastic boxes is a nightmare and oil stains never used to go off.
Power Consumption
  • This particular model is rated at 1.5KW, but I guess that rating is only for the heating element.
    Never calculated the actual usage, but should be on par with any washing machine if not less.
    There is no significant spike in electricity bill, so I never bothered to check the power usage in detail.

I will add a few pictures later today, of the dishwasher and utensils before/after wash.

My parents were reluctant to get rid of the maid and get a dishwasher instead. They were apprehensive about the performance earlier, but after looking at the wash quality, even they are on the scout for a dishwasher. Since I know the practical advantages of an extra rack, I'm pushing for IFB Neptune SX1 and will update this review accordingly if we end up buying that.


This is how dishwasher was delivered by Amazon. Luckily no damages.

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A few pics from yesterday's wash cycle.

Notice that refill rinse aid indicator is lit. It's been almost 3 weeks since last refill.

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After refill, with the indicator off.

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After the wash cycle.
Those plastic flap like things you see at the bottom of the pic is where you add the detergent and the rinse aid.
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Bottom rack, where plates and large utensils usually go.

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Top rack. Since the bottom rack is full and we couldn't fit the small cutlery basket, We had to improvise and use the Etagere for small cutlery.

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Notice how the stainless steel utensils are shiny. If you don't use rinse aid, there will be a cloudy layer of water droplet marks over them.

I'll do a set of before/after wash pics of dishes, once I get some time over the weekend.
 
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@xkcd0137 I bought it last year from local store, since then used it for 3-4 months continuously and tried all salts and detergents except Fortune.

It cleans all greasy utensils with ease and makes them shine even, imho go for it. Only thing which is not yet tested is Service but it's built very well no doubt in it.
 
As mentioned in a previous post, my dishwasher was showing E09 error. It was working but the utensils were coming out dirty. Manual said that the heating element was faulty. Pump and heating element are a combined unit. I called up service helpline, they arranged a call from local service center. Who diagnosed the same thing. He ordered the pump for me which took 15 days to arrive. Due to COVID restrictions no external persons are allowed where I live. I got the pump delivered to my place and replaced it my self. Replacement involved opening the top cover, the right side panel, remove the controller, remove old pump, fix new retainer ring, install new pump. After installation I started the dishwasher in intensive kadhai mode and found that hot water was now coming. I could feel the body heatng up. After the cycle was complete, I boxed up everything. Took about 1 hour to do the job. Pump cost 5640
 
I was trying to calculate the running costs for Dishwasher. I find it is cheaper to hire a maid and get this job done.
No maid will clean as well and with as little water as a dishwasher does. Plus no holidays. Apart from this, my dishwasher is much cheaper than even a maid.
 
we clean the filter once a week. I haven't used descaler even once.
Do you think it could be scaling buildup that could have caused the heater to fail. I need to clean the filter more regularly, it seems as I only clean it once in 2-3 months, sometimes even longer.
What are the running costs for you?
Just the detergent, rinse aid and electricity. 1kg detergent (220) lasts 1.5 months for me. 1 bottle of rinse aid (150 bucks) lasts 3-4 months. This is for a household of 2 people, but apart from plates and glasses, everything else used will be same for even a bigger household.
 
Do you think it could be scaling buildup that could have caused the heater to fail. I need to clean the filter more regularly, it seems as I only clean it once in 2-3 months, sometimes even longer. Just the detergent, rinse aid and electricity. 1kg detergent (220) lasts 1.5 months for me. 1 bottle of rinse aid (150 bucks) lasts 3-4 months. This is for a household of 2 people, but apart from plates and glasses, everything else used will be same for even a bigger household.
I think electricity cost is the major factor here depening on the unit consumption per wash and the unit rate. We are paying our maid Rs. 1500 per month. She does the dishes and mop the floor.
 
I think electricity cost is the major factor here depening on the unit consumption per wash and the unit rate. We are paying our maid Rs. 1500 per month. She does the dishes and mop the floor.
It doesn't use much electricity at all. Only use is heating the water. As we were already using geyser to heat water for washing dishes, we actually save both money and water because of the efficiency of the dishwasher and we get squeaky clean dishes. Maybe your maid is good, but we have never been happy with any maid's work, whether it is cleaning dishes or cleaning the house.
 
Do you think it could be scaling buildup that could have caused the heater to fail. I need to clean the filter more regularly, it seems as I only clean it once in 2-3 months, sometimes even longer. Just the detergent, rinse aid and electricity. 1kg detergent (220) lasts 1.5 months for me. 1 bottle of rinse aid (150 bucks) lasts 3-4 months. This is for a household of 2 people, but apart from plates and glasses, everything else used will be same for even a bigger household.
I will open up the pump and check for signs of scale buildup. Bad design by bosch to be honest. they should have either made a separate water heater and pump or they should sell the heating element and pump as separate spares. Now I have a perfectly working pump without heating.
 
I am planning to buy the Bosch's SMS66GI01 but since my residence is under lockdown, bosch's technician won't be allowed inside the campus and I'll have to install it myself. Does anyone know if this will void warranty? I am trying to call Bosch's customer care 1800-266-1880 since morning but the call isn't going through.
 
I am planning to buy the Bosch's SMS66GI01 but since my residence is under lockdown, bosch's technician won't be allowed inside the campus and I'll have to install it myself. Does anyone know if this will void warranty? I am trying to call Bosch's customer care 1800-266-1880 since morning but the call isn't going through.
I installed mine myself. 2 days later a technician arrived and checked everything and gave a installation report. It all depends on the local service center but since there is lockdown there should not be problem.
 
I just ordered the bosch dishwasher from amazon. Should I also order the dishwasher detergent or is there a starter pack included with the dishwasher? what do regular users recommend? finish or fortune? there is a 100 rs difference in price.
Fortune is OK
But Finish is worth the price difference, in my experience
 
Is it really? Ive tried both and found no difference so using Fortune exclusively. It is Indian and value is amazing.
+1 I have tried several one, found no difference in my 4 years of years usage. Newer formula of Fortune which is in market since approx last one year seems better than earlier formula.
 
Been thinking about getting a dishwasher but have been reluctant because it can't be fitted inside kitchen due to it being non-provisoned for dw & even if I want to place it in balcony just outside the kitchen, water inlet & drain will be a hindrance to movement since they will lie right across the path. Not sure If I'm up for connecting the pipes everytime I want to use DW.

Secondly - My household has quite a few aluminium utensils, like all the cookers, kadahis etc. Will probably need to replace them all ? I read somewhere that IFB detergents go easy on aluminum utensils than the other ones. Any truth to it or replacing them is the only way ?
 
All Aluminium will turn black and rough. This is due to high pH of the detergent and the high temperature. Severity depends on the quality of the aluminium too. We placed a few initially and noticed that some of them are more affected than others.
 
Went to and fro between full size & tabletop models for a while but finally ended up ordering regular size Bosch SMS66Gxxx.

As per the thread, will get the plumbing & 16 Amp board in place & order a Fortune combo pack for first month.
Should I get a stand too ? Not too sure on final placement of the machine due to space constraints in kitchen so I guess a stand with wheels might come in handy ?
 
Went to and fro between full size & tabletop models for a while but finally ended up ordering regular size Bosch SMS66Gxxx.

As per the thread, will get the plumbing & 16 Amp board in place & order a Fortune combo pack for first month.
Should I get a stand too ? Not too sure on final placement of the machine due to space constraints in kitchen so I guess a stand with wheels might come in handy ?
So, even we didn't have a place in our kitchen for the dishwasher. I ran pipes for the inlet, but the drain was always going to be an issue. I found an alternative for the time being which is how we have been using ours for over 2 years now. I just placed a bucket next to it and keep the drain pipe in the bucket. There have been no issues and it's a very small inconvenience compared to washing the utensils ourselves.
 
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