'BTH' Score Submission - AMD Phenom II X6/X4 9XX

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update guys
mrcool63- 21.418 - phenom II 924 @ 3220 ghz @1.34v - 4gb ddr3 1333(almost) 8-9-8-24-1T, asus m4n68t-m.. overclocking in slow progress.
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i would suggest extending the date to 20th for more entries:).. bloody shit wont post at higher than 240 fsb even at 1.48v vcore. modding in progress.. newbie here bear with me:)
 
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That is not going to work. The hash verification number for the PI run is not visible.

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mrcool63 said:
does the ram frequency matter that much in super pi? or latency more necessary. ram is holding back further oc. thats why
@RD how are u stabilizing that oc without voltage mod?
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Not much. Perhaps half a second ~ 3/4ths of a second.

3.8Ghz is my OC ceiling with stock voltages. I'll try for higher clocks/voltages if I can get hold of my friends DH14, provided my motherboard or RAM doesn't hold me back.
 
i to think somewhat the same to get the sub 15 scrore as their are even entries with 14.*** with air cooler of around rs. 3000 ;)

but i think our Motherboard are holding us back :(

i can't get the ram on 1800mhz :(
 
Those are special chips, gt after a lot of testing and sampling...sub 14 on air is very very very difficult.
 
i and their mobo is also expansive one like asus formula IV ( what so ever ) = rs. 19000 + i think so :O and we are on a Rs.4000 to Rs. 5000 mobo :P just merily behind and + we don't know what was the climate at the place when tested :/

so many conditions naa :D
 
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but Guy's whats with the >15sec scores of Phenom II? I am really surprised to see that Phenom II fares so badly in Super Pi.:S

I understand Phenom II is no match for the first gen i7/i5 clock to clock despite being released in the same generation chronologically, but this is really ridiculous. If I remember right, Even the first gen Core 2's didn't break a sweat scoring sub 15sec . My E6600 used to score 14sec odd with a moderate overclock of 3.3~3.4GHz and here I am seeing Phenom II's struggling to hit 15 sec with 4GHz+ overclocks. :S

Considering only Architecture and clock speeds matter for Super Pi, I am wondering if there Is there some special "Super Pi on Phenom II" issue that I don't know about or is it just because of AMD stagnating on old architecture because of their socket compatibility insistence?
 
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I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but Guy's whats with the >15sec scores of Phenom II? I am really surprised to see that Phenom II fares so badly in Super Pi.:S

I understand Phenom II is no match for the first gen i7/i5 clock to clock despite being released in the same generation chronologically, but this is really ridiculous. If I remember right, Even the first gen Core 2's didn't break a sweat scoring sub 15sec . My E6600 used to score 14sec odd with a moderate overclock of 3.3~3.4GHz and here I am seeing Phenom II's struggling to hit 15 sec with 4GHz+ overclocks. :S

Considering only Architecture and clock speeds matter for Super Pi, I am wondering if there Is there some special "Super Pi on Phenom II" issue that I don't know about or is it just because of AMD stagnating on old architecture because of their socket compatibility insistence?
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First its very much renowned that super pi code is very Intel instruction set friendly. Now with AMD its still the same architecture from 2003 K8 which does 9 flops per cycle whereas Intel has improved from 12 flops per cycle of c2d to 16 single precision/ 8 double precision flops per cycle of Sandybridge, along with a whole other lot of architectural difference. So there you have it.

Though there are many other versions of superpi but they really are not stable code and cannot reliably differentiate between generations.
 
update guys...
mrcool63 - 19.781 - phenom II x4 925@3.5ghz@1.4v, 4gb ddr3 @ 1333mhz 8-8-8-20-27-1T, asus m4n68t-m

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mrcool63 - 19.281 - phenom II x4 925@3642 , 4gb ddr3 @1333mhz 8-8-8-20-27, asus m4n68t-m
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so RD took ur advice:)
 
Lord Nemesis said:
I am not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but Guy's whats with the >15sec scores of Phenom II? I am really surprised to see that Phenom II fares so badly in Super Pi.:S

I understand Phenom II is no match for the first gen i7/i5 clock to clock despite being released in the same generation chronologically, but this is really ridiculous. If I remember right, Even the first gen Core 2's didn't break a sweat scoring sub 15sec . My E6600 used to score 14sec odd with a moderate overclock of 3.3~3.4GHz and here I am seeing Phenom II's struggling to hit 15 sec with 4GHz+ overclocks. :S

Considering only Architecture and clock speeds matter for Super Pi, I am wondering if there Is there some special "Super Pi on Phenom II" issue that I don't know about or is it just because of AMD stagnating on old architecture because of their socket compatibility insistence?
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Some stuff that may interest you..!

SuperPi 1m/32m? Nope! - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

AMDZone.com • View topic - SuperPi as a benchmark
 
asingh said:
Some stuff that may interest you..!

SuperPi 1m/32m? Nope! - Overclock.net - Overclocking.net

AMDZone.com • View topic - SuperPi as a benchmark
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Same threads by the same guy in 2 different forums who clearly is an AMD fanboi. He simply doesnt understand that Intel CPU's are better at running x87 instructions as I said above. Whether thats relevant for a CPU or whether that makes Superpi irrelevant benchmark for CPU performance measure is a topic not suitable for this thread.....
 
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I think the topics were pertinent and made sense to the issues with SuperPI running different types of instruction sets. The reason I posted the two links, so users can read the various discussions/debates/critique being raised in the threads. EVEN, if a 'fanboy' started them the commentary is quite explanatory and provides insights. If you can provide more links which would show abstraction or theoretical concepts of SuperPI on AMD, it would be great.

Reading is believing on the net.
 
valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=1313738

guys how is this possible ?????

16*281on
1055t ??? :S

16 multi :S
 
a humble request.

@everyone participating,
please mention the cooling used. i.e. heatsink, TIM and fan/s.

@mods,
if possible, please add the heatsink/fans info to the leaderboard too.

thanks.

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this is not required for the contest as asingh has already mentioned in the next post.
 
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We cannot request that. The initial rules had it, that users can choose to not tell cooling methods. Only a temperature recording device screenshot is mandatory to negate the use of LN2/DICE.
 
the articles by asingh are very useful. clears up why sub 15 scores are hard to get which i was having a hard time understanding.
BTW the OP for that article is not a fanboy.. he is just reasoning logically as to the reason involved. just like nvidia cards performs better in certain games optimized for it so to intel with certain benchmarks optimized for it.
 
mrcool63 said:
the articles by asingh are very useful. clears up why sub 15 scores are hard to get which i was having a hard time understanding.

BTW the OP for that article is not a fanboy.. he is just reasoning logically as to the reason involved. just like nvidia cards performs better in certain games optimized for it so to intel with certain benchmarks optimized for it.
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You clearly didnt follow the discussion then, :( The difference is that its not as if the benchmark is optimised for Intel (or Intel has optimised their CPU for the benchmarks), but Superpi runs better on Intel because of in simple words Intel architecture is better at running the instruction set used in Superpi.

Take a hypothetical case for example. IF Nvidia cards have more/faster shaders than ATI cards they will run Shader heavy games/scenes better than ATI. In this case its not that the game is optimised for Nvidia but the game relies on a particular feature which is better in Nvidia.

I hope you understand the difference now, (@singh), and why I called the guy a fanboi and though a logical person would get the gist out of those threads but beginners may not understand and take a different picture home.
 
THINK OUR SIGNATURES DO TELL THAT WHAT IS OUR COOLER :P
and our oc'ing can tell what method is
used, iTHINK THAT THe answers ahhh :D
 
@Banik:

And where did you read that I posted something different. I inferred quite the same from the article I posted. Intel design has the ability to run the benchmark better due to it architectural advantages over AMD. At least the first link has the same information, where Scientia is replying to an OCnet thread..!

But yea, some readers might understand it grossly different..!

@MRCool:

It is the other way round. The benchmark is not optimized for Intel. Intel runs -- the benchmark better relative to AMD. Reiterating what Banik is saying.

:)
 
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