Budget Headphone Group Test

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Every day I see People asking for the opinions about the various options available when buying big headphones. Suggestions , usually are the HP 805 and the XD 100 and 200. I had an HP 805, and wanted to see how the others compared. So i got hold of a few more headphones and pitted them against each other ![/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]First, the contenders pose for a photo session :D

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I'm sure the EP 630's are there somewhere in the photo, or maybe i forgot :ashamed:

Test Configuration

70% of the preliminary listening was done on my trusty Transcend T 610 critical listening on my Foobar, SSRC @ 96Khz/24bits to my Audigy 2ZS Platinum Pro's 96/24 ASIO interface with all of the card's DSP disabled.

The frequency responses were played back on the Transcend and recorded on my soundcard, analyzed with Rightmark Audio Analyzer 6.05 and the headphone impedances measured by a plain old Digital Multimeter.

The loading tests were done by using a Y cable , with the headphone on test on one side, and the other output connected to my soundcard's Line in 3 .

[BREAK=Philips HP 805]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I'm going in the chronological order of how i laid my hands on these various beauties. The first of these is the Phillips HP 805. I got them when i was in Mysore , and got them from a planet M in Bangalore. They were my only source of entertainment for quite a while till i got my EP 630's as well. They were also the reason i got a lot of respect as a serious cred as an audiophile! :cool2:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]They also are the benchmark (for me ) for big headphones. Vastly better quality than what i had before, an iBall 850 (with vibration). They're light on the head, are well built, have good high and low end , but a slightly weak midrange, but I'm okay with that (we all like to tweak our EQ's like that secretly!) it feels very comfy, and build quality is great! It looks a whole lot more expensive than it actually is and has a very classy feel on the whole. At 1195, its quite good VFM compared to the lower end Sennheisers. The only reason they've not well known is that they aren't available freely in the US of A. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For Indians, These are the best audiophile cans money can buy. Anything above is not as good VFM, and cheaper ones aren't exactly high fidelity. The only sad thing about them is that they're VERY loud and i mean, on the outside, and not suitable for use at the office at all, where anything above 50% volume , and the speakers in our LCD monitors start getting embarrassed !:ohyeah: Their open back nature also gives it a very open sound which i didn't hear in any of the other headphones I've listened to so far. The sad thing is that i really think they're going out of production this time , and Phillips plans to push this thing's price way up. The successor, the HP 8900 costs about 3.7k, at which price , the Sennheiser's start to make a better case for themselves. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For : great sound , looks , Build quality[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Against : leaks sound[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Verdict: Buy it! You wont regret it ![/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Sound:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Music: 9/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Movies: 9/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Games: 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]VFM 9/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Build quality 10/10

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/shp805_00/shp805_00_pss_eng.pdf

[/FONT][BREAK=Creative EP 630]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Its not quite fair to put the EP 630 here in this comparo as its a canal phone , the others being around the ear headphones. But at this price point, they're very much in competition in people's eyes. I see a lot of people asking if they should buy these or big headphones. The answer depends on usage. These have a different usage pattern than the rest. Picture yourself in a bus or train wearing any of the other 'phones on test here. Not likely eh? Thats the point. These babies represent near perfect music in a tiny package. But then again, you cant wear them for ever and ever ( as i found out at the office). But when your driver feels the love for Himesh coming on, you know where to look for solace:P. They absolutely drown out everything else, and the clarity is astounding. Having said that , they aren't suited a lot for anything other than music. Games especially sound like crap due to the different nature of the bass:(. If you think you can buy a pair of these and think that all your audio needs are taken care of , think again, because you will need a bigger pair of headphones for relaxed listening and/or gaming[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For : Killer sound quality for price- Tight Bass, Isolation, clarity[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Against: A bit too much on the highs , Long term discomfort,Only for music[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Verdict: Cheapest ticket to audio nirvana.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Sound:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Music: 10/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Movies: 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Games: 5/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]VFM 10/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Build quality 10/10[/FONT]

Creative Earphones EP-630

[BREAK=Sony MDR XD200]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The next up is the Sony MDR XD200.I've seen it come up frequently as competition for the HP 805 whenever someone is in the market for headphones <2k. I usually didn't comment as i hadn't heard them. Then clank puts a pair of these for sale at 1k and i cant resist, and i buy them asap. Besides , i need a pair of closed back headphones( my cube mates are beginning to get tired of HP 805 broadcasting on the side ). They don't feel as solid as the philips , but feel a bit lighter on the head , maybe a bit too flimsy. But they seem durable. In isolation, they aren't quite that bad , and the movie mode adds a kick to the sound.I first thought that they were due to some passive electronic filter ( which means some sort of switch, and possible long term reliability issues) But it turns out , Its a mechanical arrangement actually, it opens and closes a bass port in the headphone enclosure. Nice! , and innovative too.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]But the moment i take it home and compare it with my HP 805, I'm disappointed. Bear in mind that this is a 1,499 headphone , and to be honest , it sounds very, very dull. Music sounds very bland, no clarity, no nothing.Switching to music mode doesn't help either. Movie mode is OK, it enhances bass in some tracks ( like eminem's Ass Like That . The dull background bass thump is very very emphatic. But then again, in some other tracks , the deep bass is non existent. Its weird when there are two bass notes in a song, and one is very loud, and the other nearly non existent. It still managed to impress a lot f my colleagues, who were like OMG !!!!!!!!!!!1!!1 BASS!!!!:bleh:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Whatever it disappointed in music, it more than made up in games and movies. In movies , the lack of crispness of dialog was a slightly noticeable , but not by much. But in games was the improvement apparent. All the explosions were rendered with extra authority in movie mode , with the headset giving extra Boom! (the bass vent kicking in) . Most games have weapon firing sounds a bit harsh, and this irons out all that. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Overall, i wasn't exactly impressed. The movie mode and the boomy bass help in some cases, but it could have been a lot better. [/FONT]

EDIT: After using this for 6 months , i've sorta fallen in love with it. Its lighter, more comfortable , and its great for listening to non audiophile stuff. Its gotten quite some fans at my office too :D

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For : Great performance in games/movies, Insane Bass, light and comfortable[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Against : laid back sound , boomy bass. No clarity[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Verdict: Buy it for the bass alone.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Sound:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Music: 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Movies: 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Games: 10/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]VFM 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Build quality 9/10[/FONT]

SonyStyle.com | Studio Monitor Series Headphones

[BREAK=Sony MDR XD100]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The Sony MDR XD200 was a disappointment , but nothing could prepare me for the XD100. The only improvement is that the dull sound is not there , and has been replaced by a thin and weak sound, devoid of any body. No highs. No lows, no nothing:no:. I thought first that the XD 100 was a XD 200 with a cheaper body and no movie mode. For 1,099, its absolutely not worth it. The only situation i would buy it would be if nothing else was available, even then, not quite sure. The only good thing about it is that it looks good, but besides that , not much.It feels light and flimsy just like its sibling the XD 200, but stronger than the Philips HP 250[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For : Sony Brand Name, Looks, Build Quality[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Against. Lame Overall performance[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Verdict: Avoid![/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Sound:[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Music: 6/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Movies: 7/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Games: 6/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]VFM 7/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Build quality 9/10[/FONT]

SonyStyle.com | Studio Monitor Series Headphones

[BREAK=Philips HP 250]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]After The XD100 fiasco, I was planning to check south of the 1k figure to see anything worthwhile was available, when i saw a battle scarred HP 250 sitting at a friend's house. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I tried it out and it was an immediate improvement on the XD100. Not as good as the others , but still great value for 945, especially those who want the 6m cable and the in line volume control ( both of which I'd rather avoid) the funniest thing is that from the spec, and what I'd heard of it , I'd expected it to be louder than everything else, but in fact , it was the opposite. It was least loudest of the lot. But thankfully , it has a good tonal balance, and is closed back. The only negative is the construction which makes it prone to breaking (and my friend's had broken in both places).The long cord is inconvenient unless you actually sit some distance from your source, and so is the volume control unless for the same reason. A competent , yet unremarkable headphone.[/FONT][FONT=Arial, sans-serif]yet, judging by the new philips prices, quite vfm. The HP 2700 costs 1.5k :S[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]For: Long cable , in line volume control, Tonal balance[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Against: Long cable(depends ) low sensitivity, construction. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Overall: Ideal companion for home TV viewing.[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Sound: [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Music:8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Movies 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Games 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]VFM 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Build Quality 7/10[/FONT]

http://www.p4c.philips.com/files/s/shp2500_00/shp2500_00_pss_eng.pdf

[BREAK=iSound i860]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]At this point , i was willing to be adventurous , and got an Isound i860, something which i once recommended to a friend , and he hadn't finished thanking me for it. I was curious what was so great about it , having suffered from an iSound 850 vibrance for some time, as to how the contender from iSound performed. The first time i tried it , i couldn't believe it.:O It sounded amazingly like my HP 805. i did a couple of A/B comparisons , and was astounded.The similarity was remarkable. The first thing i did was call up my friend and ask if he had put in HP 805 drivers in the iSound as some sort of a practical joke.^o He hadnt, and besides , the impedance tests matched the iSound's spec correctly. Still, the way the i860 matches the HP 805 is further shown in the loading tests. The frequency response graphs both came out pretty close. To break the deadlock, my Audigy2ZS Platinum + foobar + ssrc had to be called in. There the difference was more noticeable. Despite sounding similar,(and I'm nit picking here ) the 860's lacked the finesse, delicacy and depth of the 805's. And yet for most , 99% the sound for close to 50% the price. And it has a mic. The only issue was that it was barely a circum aural headphone- it still kept pressing the ears like a supra aural headphone. But at their price, everything is forgivable. . 700 Rs (MRP) buys you something which sounds remarkably close to the HP 805, and whatever difference, most people wont even notice.:hap2:

For: Good sound, Has Mic, vol control on cord

Against: vol control might fail soon.

Overall: Best Value!

[/FONT] [FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Music: 9/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Movies 9/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Gaming 8/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]VFM 10/10[/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Build Quality 9/10[/FONT]

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[BREAK=Comparisons , Objective tests]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The HP 250 has an immense 6m long cable while all the others have 3m (which is about the sweet spot, nether too short , nor too unmanageable) the ep 630 being a portable has just 1.2, and the i860 has 2m [/FONT]

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]The Impedances (measured) turned out to be more than the stated one , which is a good thing ,as you won't end up overloading any of your sources. It also has an impact on the frequency response (below)[/FONT]

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*Note that these are the frequency response graphs of my T 610 when loaded with these headphones, and are only indicative of how much they load the device they are connected to.

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[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]As expected , both the Sony's , because of their high impedance, didn't load the player much. The HP 250, on the other hand , loaded the output a lot , but didn't offer that much increased sensitivity. The EP 630 had the least impedance and is the hardest to drive ( yes, most people will be surprised. The tiny ep 630 loads your players more than any of these behemoth headphones here . Not just the EP 630's , any earbud. The resemblance between the HP 805's and the i860s continue in this graph as well.[/FONT]

[BREAK=Conclusion]
[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]Conclusion. [/FONT]

[FONT=Arial, sans-serif]I'm still split between the EP 630 and the HP 805:ashamed:. Both of them have their advantages ad disadvantages. To compare them is like comparing a hummer and a Ferrari. So case closed there itself. If i were you, I'd buy both! :DAs far as the big cans go, the HP 805 still remains king , but with the i860 coming very close, at least for normal folks. The XD 200 is a good alternative for those who want their music with bass and extra bass and then some more:P.After using it for a while , I've become a fan of its VERY laid back sound. enhances the bass, and masks any compression artefacts The HP 250 is good for those who want to use the long cord, and on a budget. And least of all the XD 100, well, its good for nothing. Thats all folks ![/FONT]

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Imagine me.... I use EP-630s with my colour screen ipod and nowadays am listening to a lot of Metallica (all in apple lossless on my ipod, otherwise in FLAC), and Dream Theater (same as Metallica.... Apple Lossless).

I must be getting horrible battery life... havent checked as such :P
 
Great comparison and effort greenhorn, really appreciate it. However, there are two things I do want to say.
A multimeter only gives you the DC resistance of the headphone voice coil, not the impedance. You need an impedance jig to measure impedance. this is beyond the scope of this test, I would say that your reading has little bearing on the real impedance of the headphones.
Also the way you've plotted the frequency response gives the frequency response of the soundcard. To measure the headphone's frequency response you need to couple the transducer to a microphone in a torso simulator or artificial ear and then conduct the test. This requires pretty sophisticated test equipment.
http://www.listeninc.com/site/images/Headphone_Test_Setup.jpg

1600H
Again, this is beyond the reach and scope of this test - would suggest you update with the fact that the data is not valid.
However your listening impressions are, so I must applaud the effort you've taken.
 
sangram said:
Great comparison and effort greenhorn, really appreciate it. However, there are two things I do want to say.
A multimeter only gives you the DC resistance of the headphone voice coil, not the impedance. You need an impedance jig to measure impedance. this is beyond the scope of this test, I would say that your reading has little bearing on the real impedance of the headphones.
Also the way you've plotted the frequency response gives the frequency response of the soundcard. To measure the headphone's frequency response you need to couple the transducer to a microphone in a torso simulator or artificial ear and then conduct the test. This requires pretty sophisticated test equipment.
http://www.listeninc.com/site/images/Headphone_Test_Setup.jpg

1600H
Again, this is beyond the reach and scope of this test - would suggest you update with the fact that the data is not valid.
However your listening impressions are, so I must applaud the effort you've taken.

Yup, the resistance values are mostly irrelevant as the impedance is what really matters, but as most folks here are afraid that 'Large' Headphones load their tiny mp3 players more than tiny earbuds, i just wanted to change that myth. Besides , since i was testing it from the loading point of view, this pure resistance represents one of the worst case scenarios , the other being resonance/infinite impedance.

the freqeuncy response , also , is not from a listening point of view, as i did not record them from the output of the headphones , and like said previously, from the loading point of view. Any impedance peaks /resonances would have shown up, and they do for the sony (thanks to its bass vent)

but yes, they dont represent the output frequency response of the earphones which would be beyond my capacity probably if i was still in college , i could have snuck into the labs and used the signal generator and a CRO there :ashamed:
 
i hope they're the 805's drivers in the 250's body. the 250's sound quality sucks , and to pay 50% extra just for the black colour and shorter cable is lame.

anyone willing to be a guinea pig and buy one and report how it sounds :D
 
I was gonna get these today...don't know wat stopped me. The only other difference i can spot from the pdf is that it's got a gold plated connector instead of the 805 and 205's chrome plated. Can anyone try them somewhere ??
 
Great review and headphone comparison, it would be useful for me if I needed headphones, but I have a pair of the Plantronics 590A though, and love them.... had them for 2 years ;) and still going strong :P
 
Good testing. So my old iball's that good uh...;)

I wonder how any of these would stack up against 100~200 US cans lol...
 
Creative EP630 really nice :) excellent clarity!

but a lil painful for me (sealing process) coz its IEM.

Greenhorn, build quality(cable is thin) is really bad :P so I'd give it 7/10. dunno how you gave it a 10 on 10!
 
but its durable man... not like the cheap stuff. the only problem so far was that ants had a bite at my ear flanges :@
 
nah, like i learnt with the gauravt, there are folks who deserve it a lot more. The Toscar is more than enough :D
 
greenhorn said:
nah, like i learnt with the gauravt, there are folks who deserve it a lot more. The Toscar is more than enough :D

The way I think
"He was selfless, but you were more so!"

Anyways good review...Keep them coming...:hap2:
 
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