PC Peripherals Building new PC - 80k. Please help

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Hi everyone. :)

I had planned on building a new computer a few months ago. Back then, I had been advised to wait for a few months while the DX11 cards were released. I used this time to read up on computer hardware a bit more. Ideally, I would have liked to wait for Nvidia's Fermi cards before building, but for certain reasons, I must build now. Going to purchase this in the next week if all goes well.

I have selected the configuration below after careful thought. My budget for a complete build is around Rs. 80,000. By complete, I do mean complete. I will not be reusing ANY parts from my old computer.

Case: Coolermaster HAF 922 - Rs. 6,400
DVD Drive: Samsung 22x SATA SH-203B DVD Writer - Rs. 1,100
Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 - Rs. 16,800
Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB - Rs. 2,600
Keyboard: Logitech G15 - Rs. 4,000
Monitor: Dell S2409W - Rs. 12,500
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 - Rs. 6,800
Mouse: Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1,500
Processor: Intel Core i5 750 - Rs. 10,200
PSU: Corsair VX550 Watts - Rs. 5,500
RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2)DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium - Rs. 5,800
Speakers: Altec Lansing VS2420 - Rs. 1,600
UPS: APC 1000 VA - Rs. 6,000

Total - Rs. 80,800

A few things:

1) I live in Delhi and will be purchasing all these from Nehru Place. Could you please recommend some good shops to buy from? (with address if possible)

2) As you may know, Delhi gets pretty hot and dusty. Would you advise me to change any components due to this? In summers, my room heats upto 40 degrees C.

3) I will NOT be over clocking at all. So should I purchase extra fans, an aftermarket heatsink, and coolers? Should I buy Arctic Silver thermal paste?

4) I would want someone to assemble the stuff I buy. Should I ask the shop where I got it from to do this for me? I don’t have a Windows installation CD, only a live CD of Ubuntu 9.

5) A few component related queries:
Case: Should I opt for the HAF922 or the CM690? Not going to add anything else except another hard drive later.

Monitor: The Dell S2409 has had good reviews, but is there anything better I can get for upto Rs. 15,000? Only for the monitor am I willing to stretch my budget. Lynx has two Asus monitors at around 15k
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Are these any better?
RAM: Is the RAM I’ve chosen alright? Not sure about latencies and timings etc.
Motherboard: As I am not going to be overclocking, should I go for the Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 or save around Rs. 1,000 and go for the Intel DP55WB?
Speakers: Don’t know if they’re good or not, I just need a pair of cheap 2.0 speakers.
UPS: Again, I have no idea about this. I know APC makes the best ones, but please give me a particular model number (and one that is cheaper if possible). I only want a few minutes of backup time to quickly save my work and shut down the computer. But it should be able to handle voltage fluctuations easily; the voltage sometimes fluctuates as where I live.
6) Could you guys please check whether all the prices I’ve listed are close to the actual prices? That way I know I’m not getting robbed.

Thanks a lot for reading this. Please feel free to add any thing of help. And sorry for the long post. I’ll add later if anything comes to mind. :D

(I don't post here often and some of you may see this thread on another forum. I'm trying to get as many opinions as possible as this is a huge purchase for me);)
 
The configuration looks pretty good.

S2409W and G2410 are best 24" displays.

HAG 922 is a solid cabinet with option to fit fans at top, bottom, side, front and rear. This and roomy insides helps a lot for cooling.

unless you overclock, all RAM modules are more or less giving similar performance so stick to the one that gives better build and warranty at a decent price.

APC is the best in business and 1kVA should be more than enough for 550W PSU to get 15-20 minute backup at full load.

if possible, try to ad an XBOX 360 wired controller for windows. It helps a lot in gaming.
 
Case: Coolermaster HAF 922 - Rs. 6,400 || NZXT Tempest EVO for the same price

DVD Drive: Samsung 22x SATA SH-203B DVD Writer - Rs. 1,100

Graphics Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 5850 - Rs. 16,800

Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 500GB - Rs. 2,600 This is BLUE not black. Black one isn't available in India, you can order one from KMD though for ~3.7k

Keyboard: Logitech G15 - Rs. 4,000 Are you sure you want to spend so much for a keyboard ?

Monitor: Dell S2409W - Rs. 12,500

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 - Rs. 6,800

Mouse: Logitech MX518 - Rs. 1,500

Processor: Intel Core i5 750 - Rs. 10,200

PSU: Corsair VX550 Watts - Rs. 5,500

RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2)DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium - Rs. 5,800

Speakers: Altec Lansing VS2420 - Rs. 1,600

UPS: APC 1000 VA - Rs. 6,000 || APC 650VA for 3000/- will be good for your need

Total - Rs. 80,800
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Made few changes above shown in bold.

Now for your questions:

1. I am not from Delhi, but SMC International is popular and he is also a dealer here. PM him and you can get some better deals from him as a TE member :)

2. Not much, the case I suggested has very decent airflow thus allowing better temperature.

3. Aftermarket cooler or at least thermal paste are always encouraged but again you don't know how to assemble a computer. So you might get wrong applying it properly. I say, for the time being you carry on with the stock HSF amd TIM. Later when you get some knowledge about assembling, handling computer parts try some cooler / paste :)

4. Yeah, you can ask the shop for free assembling. But rather request some fellow TE members from Delhi who are happy to help others.

5. RAM is good. So is mother board. The 1k diff is justified. As you told that you only need few minutes back up, an APC 650VA would do good and save 3k. Invest this 3k and get a 1TB Western Digital Black rather than 500GB Blue.
 
650VA won't give enough backup for a 550W PSU. I am using 500VA for VX450W and after few months, when power trips, the UPS goes off after just few seconds. better be safe by getting 800VA and 1kVA.

regarding keyboard, what you said is true. It is better to go for a good multimedia k/b+xbox 360 controller.
 
desiibond said:
650VA won't give enough backup for a 550W PSU. I am using 500VA for VX450W and after few months, when power trips, the UPS goes off after just few seconds. better be safe by getting 800VA and 1kVA.

regarding keyboard, what you said is true. It is better to go for a good multimedia k/b+xbox 360 controller.
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Ya true..a 650VA will back up approximate ~65% = 423W. It will never hold up for a 550W supply.
 
desiibond said:
650VA won't give enough backup for a 550W PSU. I am using 500VA for VX450W and after few months, when power trips, the UPS goes off after just few seconds. better be safe by getting 800VA and 1kVA.

regarding keyboard, what you said is true. It is better to go for a good multimedia k/b+xbox 360 controller.
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yeah 1KVA, +1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
If you are not all going to overclock then no need of investing in an i5. you have to overclock it either manually or using turbo boost.

Better buy a highly clocked AMD 965 instead.

RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2)DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium - Rs. 5,800.

^^ Couldn't find the ram you mentioned.

From my exp better go for a samsung monitor.
 
desiibond said:
The configuration looks pretty good.
if possible, try to ad an XBOX 360 wired controller for windows. It helps a lot in gaming.
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Later.:D

sabby said:
Made few changes above shown in bold.
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Thanks for your help. No offense, but I think I'll stick with the HAF922. I haven't heard of NZXT before. And if price is same, I'd go with the 922, which has got great reviews from what I've read.

And thanks for informing me about the HDD being a Blue.

sg3707 said:
If you are not all going to overclock then no need of investing in an i5. you have to overclock it either manually or using turbo boost.

Better buy a highly clocked AMD 965 instead.

RAM: Corsair 4GB (2x2)DDR3 1600MHz C9 Titanium - Rs. 5,800.
^^ Couldn't find the ram you mentioned.

From my exp better go for a samsung monitor.
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I head the i5 offers best price/performance ratio.
Got the RAM from Digit forum.
Samsung I think doesn't have any 24" monitors in India. :huh:
 
@desiibond and asingh

Ywah, I know the math. But typically an OCed i7 + 5870 consumes ~400W while gaming like in CRYSIS / Far Cry 2 etc. So stock i5 + 5850 should consume much less power. That is why I suggested the 650VA as he only wants 4-5 minutes back up to shutdown the machine.

And my rig is somewhat similar to your ( desiibond ) and I get 4 minutes backup while gaming. I think there might a battery problem of your UPS. FYI, mine is 3.5 yrs old :)
 
Keyboard: Logitech G15 - Rs. 4,000
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dude u could get a razer lycosa for that price
must be a bit costly though

dont invest that much on a keyboard
get an after market cooler instead for your cpu
i know you dont overclock but better cooler better life:)
 
Stick to nzxt tempest. HAF922 is more of a dust magnet and I think it doesn't come with air filters to prevent the dust coming within the case. The way i see it, if you haven't "heard" of something, you google out the reviews and learn.

There are so many good stuff out there that people don't even know about, but dismissing them purely for the fact that they haven't known and not willing to know at a click of a button, is purely because of laziness, wouldn't you agree? As for the keyboard, do you really want to spend so much for it?
 
CPU Nehalem Core i7 920--------Rs :14145/-

MOBO Gigabyte GA-EX58UD3R-----Rs :11275/-

RAM G-skill F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ------Rs :9828/-

MONITOR Benq 24" G2411HD LCD------Rs :11334/-

PSU GlacialPower GP-AL650AA----Rs :4305/-

OPTICAL DRIVE Samsung DVD Writer SH-S202, IDE---Rs :1128/-

CABBY Coolermaster 690 (Transparent)--Rs :4581/-

GPU Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 PCIE ---Rs :17000/-

UPS 1KVA--------Rs :6000/-

Total-------------------------Rs :79596/-

Things still required-HDD,KEYBOARD and MOUSE,SPEAKERS

IMO i5 is not going to have a brighter future,sticking to some normal 500GB hdd ,speakers and some multimedia keyboard mouse combo for now

which you can upgrade easily later
Anyway let others reply:hap2:
 
sabby said:
@desiibond and asingh

Ywah, I know the math. But typically an OCed i7 + 5870 consumes ~400W while gaming like in CRYSIS / Far Cry 2 etc. So stock i5 + 5850 should consume much less power. That is why I suggested the 650VA as he only wants 4-5 minutes back up to shutdown the machine.

And my rig is somewhat similar to your ( desiibond ) and I get 4 minutes backup while gaming. I think there might a battery problem of your UPS. FYI, mine is 3.5 yrs old :)
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Sure, sounds fine. But then the OP could make do with 450W too. Just for the reason that he has foresight to go for PSU over head, I suggested the 1KV UPS, so he maintains the same ratio UPS-->PSU. If 4 minutes is all he wants that is fine.
 
The MOBO is a mATX if u look into the matter, so the HD5850(it's as long as a HD4890) might block off the CMOS battery area and adjoining areas....and if u can spend sooo much, why not spend on a mobo which has better cooling, and solid state capacitors etc etc??
 
ocizer said:


CPU Nehalem Core i7 920--------Rs :14145/-

MOBO Gigabyte GA-EX58UD3R-----Rs :11275/-

RAM G-skill F3-12800CL9T-6GBNQ------Rs :9828/-

MONITOR Benq 24" G2411HD LCD------Rs :11334/-

PSU GlacialPower GP-AL650AA----Rs :4305/-

OPTICAL DRIVE Samsung DVD Writer SH-S202, IDE---Rs :1128/-

CABBY Coolermaster 690 (Transparent)--Rs :4581/-

GPU Sapphire HD5850 1GB GDDR5 PCIE ---Rs :17000/-

UPS 1KVA--------Rs :6000/-

Total-------------------------Rs :79596/-

Things still required-HDD,KEYBOARD and MOUSE,SPEAKERS
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Reading is a necessity, not a privilage!

letmein said:
By complete, I do mean complete.
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I am sure it doesn't any more crystal clear than this!

comp@ddict said:
The MOBO is a mATX if u look into the matter
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Odd. What's wrong with mATX?

comp@ddict said:
so the HD5850(it's as long as a HD4890) might block off the CMOS battery area and adjoining areas.
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The ud2? Why would a scenario arrive that you will need to remove the CMOS battery when you're using a system? Its not as if its blocking the sata ports or the headers.

comp@ddict said:
why not spend on a mobo which has better cooling, and solid state capacitors etc etc??
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What >_<"

FYI, this board comes with 2oz. copper based PCB, solid capacitors and ferrite core chokes.
 
comp@ddict said:
The MOBO is a mATX if u look into the matter, so the HD5850(it's as long as a HD4890) might block off the CMOS battery area and adjoining areas....and if u can spend sooo much, why not spend on a mobo which has better cooling, and solid state capacitors etc etc??
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if you are talking about EX58UD3R, it is Ultra Durable board that comes with better copper layer for better cooling and also with Solid capacitors.

The FullATX mobos with X58 cost lot more right?

But yes, the position of CMOS battery is really odd. If there is any failed OC and if the BIOS is inaccessible (which happened for me few times), the only way is to remove the GPU and then remove the CMOS battery.

But then it happens only once or twice. As few hours into the OC, we will know the thresholds of the board/CPU.
 
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